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keepinitreal

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“Amtrak has been nickel and dimed to death for its entire history,” said Ed Wytkind of the AFL-CIO’s Transportation Trades Department. “But when something goes wrong, they blame Amtrak, despite all the resource-starving.”

From the link


Dewy he based his whole thesis on that one quote but didn't prove it in his article, are you just plaYing stupid with us?

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With hearings on Amtrak days before, it's actually just the type of news story one should be reporting.  No blame is being assigned by the author.  He's getting the info out there and beating the debate that's sure to follow.  I think some of you have the author mixed up with Congressman Israel who got into an argument in his hearing.
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Tyler - Secondly, notice the title of the link?  Remember when some Conservatives thought my sentence was misleading?  I'm shocked you guys don't see the partisan tunnel vision.



I stand by the wording of the link, there is enough in the article to stand up to scrutiny....others thought yours was extremely misleading.
keepinitreal

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"Tyler, I'm not here to cast aspersions on individuals and/or media outlets. That's what most of you do here all of the time. I'm here to try to draw out the thinking of those on the opposite political side of me. Please don't continually ask me to condemn people or entities. I've tired of reading it let alone participating in it"
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"It’s not yet clear what caused the derailment. But Amtrak, a public funded rail service that’s run as a private corporation, has long been in the cross-hairs of Congressional budget-cutters, including high-profile figures like Sens. John McCain and Tom Coburn, and George W. Bush—even as its outdated technology and infrastructure require increasing upgrades, and ridership increases."

Pretty much the definition of pushing an agenda.  It's the second paragraph.  Figured if you were lecturing about an issue, you had actually educated yourself on it.


This snippet had nothing to do with the bill before the committee.  That was more prominently covered in the second article linked.  It is not a quote from a congressman, but from the author.
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He stated three facts.  No agenda.
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Tyler - Speaking of excited, once you beg me three or four times to respond to a non-issue article, and I finally do, you get so excited you don't ever stop.  You don't accept my opinion so what's the purpose?

Again, care to share more about yourself?  Can I ask the name of the player you used to follow before you decided to register?
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He stated three facts.  No agenda.


His agenda was stating the facts the day it happened.  If there was no agenda why didn't he run the article two weeks ago?  Using and accident where peoples died to score political points.  #liberalmedia
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Tyler - Speaking of excited, once you beg me (not begging, just asking you to follow up on something you said you would do) three or four times to respond to a non-issue article (liberal media using the death of everyday Americans to score cheap political points probably is a non-issue to the left), and I finally do, you get so excited you don't ever stop (Just trying to "draw-out" those opinions!).  You don't accept my opinion so what's the purpose (To show the readers the insight into those on the left)?

Again, care to share more about yourself?  Can I ask the name of the player you used to follow before you decided to register (you already have 3 or 4 times, wouldn't that be considered begging?)?
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I'll take that as a no.
keepinitreal

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"(you sound an awful lot like a returning member from way back when...care to name that friend's daughter who you followed during season's past)?"

"Again, care to share more about yourself?  Can I ask the name of the player you used to follow before you decided to register?"





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"“We do not know the circumstances, there will be an investigation,” he said. “The concept that it is always, no matter what, more money is the solution is not always the case.”"

Common democrat speak "more spending, more money needed".  That's why you won't get a democrat to criticize the liberal bias of the articles Tyler.  It would setback their agenda.  We always need more money.  We always need better infrastructure.  We always need more infrastructure.  A lifeline of the democrat machine.  But like others have said, the republicans spend money too, someone has to bell the cat as one old timer used to say.

I've heard many say, sell Amtrak, privatize it, pay down the debt.  I've also heard that the federal government subsidizes 1/2 of all those rider's tickets in the NE corridor.  Those aren't people of limited means that ride Amtrak.  Why subsidize?

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keepinitreal

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Tyler you and Chuck both wondered the same thing.  Could that be you?

Why are Democrats so defensive about AMTRAK? They own it. Government run RAIL.


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It's been established the track had PTC installed already, it just wasn't turned on.

Is this new news or old news?

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Tyler you and Chuck both wondered the same thing.  Could that be you?

Why are Democrats so defensive about AMTRAK? They own it. Government run RAIL.



Taxpayers shouldn't be in the railroad business, and by that I mean the US government. Every amtrak route loses money. This is no way to run a railroad.

If there is sufficient demand for train service, the private sector will jump to meet that demand.
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It's been established the track had PTC installed already, it just wasn't turned on. Is this new news or old news?


I had not heard that.
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If there is sufficient demand for train service, the private sector will jump to meet that demand.


Depending upon what exactly we are talking about, I might disagree.  Lots of other benefits accrue, such as increased tax base near stations, development, sales taxes, etc.

The thing is that those increased revenues, created by the train, go to the locals.  They are not accounted for as operating offsets.  That leads to federal subsidies, which makes the trains "lose money".   I don't think they lose, it's just that some of the revenue gets nabbed before it hits the books.
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good point mikec, that's why you're the politician
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An almost identical article from Fox News.  I think your criticism of the "liberal media" is totally unjustified.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/05/14/positive-train-control-technology-could-have-prevented-amtrak-crash-experts-say/

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How's your BP these days?
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Mikec
Here's the article

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/amtrak-speed-control-system-installed-but-wasnt-turned-on/article/2564542

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Amtrak had installed the "Positive Train Control" system on the track where a speeding train fatally crashed Tuesday, but the system was not switched on.

The system could have automatically slowed the Amtrak 188, but instead it jumped the rails, killing 8 people and injuring more than 200.

According to a top congressional aide, Amtrak told the House Appropriations Committee on Thursday that the PTC system was installed along the section of track outside Philadelphia's 30th Street Station, where the crash occurred, but it was not operating.
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An almost identical article from Fox News.  I think your criticism of the "liberal media" is totally unjustified.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/05/14/positive-train-control-technology-could-have-prevented-amtrak-crash-experts-say/


We already established that, DC.  thank god mikec had some knowledge on the subject and we weren't left dangling with a wiki copy and paste job by you.  Post #1 has nothing in the world to do with your latest link.  They are not mutually exclusive.  A red herring argument is what you have done.  The interview you linked was again quoting the expert.  Same as dewy used as a defense earlier today

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keepinitreal

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This would seem to square with Durden's original post and subsequent discussion on the matter.  What dietwatereddown coke is doing is beyond imagination.  Been in the Sherry cabinent?


Blaming lack of infrastructure funding "shows a brain-dead liberalism that has no other answer to every question." - Krauthammer


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Originally Posted by DietCoke
An almost identical article from Fox News.  I think your criticism of the "liberal media" is totally unjustified.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/05/14/positive-train-control-technology-could-have-prevented-amtrak-crash-experts-say/


If by identical, you mean not similar at all, then you are correct. This claim is far fetched even for you.

Do liberals not even read articles before they post things? I don't know why I'm feeding the troll, we all know you are afraid of an actual debate.
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The train sped up before derailing.

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/242175-officials-amtrak-train-sped-up-before-derailing#.VVVqRWKqgO4.twitter
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The Rolling Stone Rape Hoax
Brian Williams
George stephanopolous
No questions for Hillary

Lib media, winning.

keepinitreal

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They set the agenda for sure, time to steer talking points to substance.
No gay cakes, no war on women, no illegal immigration

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Rapid acceleration of train into the turn has some wondering - Was the engineer trying to commit suicide?
keepinitreal

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Rapid acceleration of train into the turn has some wondering - Was the engineer trying to commit suicide?

one reason it may have mattered about his fragile psyche aka sexuality

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