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Dewey

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mikec - Here we'll agree.  We can't have pilots or engineers alone at the controls.
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mikec - Here we'll agree.  We can't have pilots or engineers alone at the controls.


Yay.  However, the fact that you don't agree on the other issues in this thread doesn't mean I'm not right, because I am.
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I think, in this case, instead of witching about funding, they should be asking why there's only 1 engineer on a train going 100+, carrying hundreds of passengers.


Same as having only one pilot at the controls of a plane when he decides to slam it into a mountain. Money won't fix stupid

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mikec - Here we'll agree.  We can't have pilots or engineers alone at the controls.


Yay.  However, the fact that you don't agree on the other issues in this thread doesn't mean I'm not right, because I am.


mikec - I think you're 100% wrong and the stimulus did work, along with a lot of other things.  Looks like we're at a stalemate.
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Dewey,

Why won't you address the main topic of this thread?
Dewey

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Tyler - Do you know how few questions of mine get answered inside here?  Besides, next you'll be starting a thread titled "why do Democrats still beat their wives" and ask me to comment on it.  All news sources have commentators sharing opinions.  Last I remember, cable news programs weren't considered mainstream media by most of you.
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I have never not answered a question that you have asked, and you specifically asked me to let you know when you didn't answer one.  This is not a hypothetical like the wife beating question.  This is a pretty straight forward, yes or no question.  Not quite sure what is that hard about it....
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I think his question may be "why don't you answer but still inject your techniques to his thread?" He has a serious thread here (involved death) and you have added nothing of substance dewy, again
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
TylerDurden

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Thanks Kiir....he's tried to change the subject, but the mothership of the left has decided to play politics with the death of these people.  He has decided it is a chance to come out and champion the accomplishments of President Obama.  Straight out of the Emmanuel play book.
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Tyler - If the author got any facts wrong, then please point them out.  If he is offering up an opinion, then he is editorializing.  How about if I take the approach of another member and say I'm 28% against what he did in that article?  How's that?  This is what I often get in return.

As for you, did you answer whether you support Obama or Warren on the TPP legislation?  I think not.
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I don't remember you posing the question to me, but I would be happy to answer those questions you pose to me in the proper thread.  I'll give you one here - I haven't read up a lot on it, but I think that any bill that is done behind closed doors as this one has and is being kept this secret I would not support.  So please put me down for supporting Senator Warren.  I thought we were supposed to be posting the bills so the American public, not to mention our legislators, would be able to read.  Is this the "most transparent" part of the administration we were promised?

Let's stay on topic (we seem to say that to you a lot....)  So if the facts are right, then it is ok to use the deaths of everyday folks to push a political agenda?  And why don't you take your own approach and quit hiding behind how you are treated by others.  Is this some sort of stealth debate tactic you are using?  I am guessing the readers see it as not wanting to answer a question.
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mikec - Here we'll agree.  We can't have pilots or engineers alone at the controls.


Yay.  However, the fact that you don't agree on the other issues in this thread doesn't mean I'm not right, because I am.


mikec - I think you're 100% wrong and the stimulus did work, along with a lot of other things.  Looks like we're at a stalemate.


I'm glad you think that.

Again, the Dems who are saying it is the GOP's fault relative to funding of the transportation infrastructure are lying.

The Dems had it, but chose instead to do these other, very expensive measures.  It is the Dems fault.

It is laughable to me hear politicians talking about Positive Train Control.  They wouldn't know what that is if it bit them.

It goes from laughable to shameful to hear Dems blame the GOP for this crash.  This crash is the engineer's fault, then Amtrak's for only having one guy.

If funding is an issue, it is the Dem's fault, for the one million reasons I've listed in this thread.

You can't accept that, but that is the case.

As I said, I don't remember seeing you in Washington lobbying Congress to approve the law. 
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Tyler - Some on the Right editorialized that Obama caused the deaths of veterans.  Were those commentators out of line?  I don't think anyone here said as much.  Commentators will say what they wish.  Btw, I just skimmed the article and I can't see where MSNBC offered up their own personal opinions.  Maybe you can help me see it.  Unless you do, I say you're wrong about this news article pushing an agenda.  Until then, I take back my 28%.

As for the TPP legislation, it is available to the GOP Senators.  Cruz is in favor of the legislation.  Does that mean you think he is wrong to vote for it?

Edit:  Tyler, I'm not here to cast aspersions on individuals and/or media outlets.  That's what most of you do here all of the time.  I'm here to try to draw out the thinking of those on the opposite political side of me.  Please don't continually ask me to condemn people or entities.  I've tired of reading it let alone participating in it.
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Edit:  Tyler, I'm not here to cast aspersions on individuals and/or media outlets.  That's what most of you do here all of the time.  I'm here to try to draw out the thinking of those on the opposite political side of me.  Please don't continually ask me to condemn people or entities.  I've tired of reading it let alone participating in it.


Translation = I will never say something negative about a Democrat, no matter what.  Even the ones who take the floor of the House or the Senate and lie out of their pieholes about the GOP, Mitt Romney (remember Harry Reid and taxes), or the like.
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Tyler - Some on the Right editorialized that Obama caused the deaths of veterans.  Were those commentators out of line?  I don't think anyone here said as much.  Commentators will say what they wish.  Btw, I just skimmed the article and I can't see where MSNBC offered up their own personal opinions.  Maybe you can help me see it.  Unless you do, I say you're wrong about this news article pushing an agenda.  Until then, I take back my 28%.

As for the TPP legislation, it is available to the GOP Senators.  Cruz is in favor of the legislation.  Does that mean you think he is wrong to vote for it?

Edit:  Tyler, I'm not here to cast aspersions on individuals and/or media outlets.  That's what most of you do here all of the time.  I'm here to try to draw out the thinking of those on the opposite political side of me.  Please don't continually ask me to condemn people or entities.  I've tired of reading it let alone participating in it.


Dewey:  You sound like you are getting flustered.  Calm down man!  It's just a softball message board.  So now you get to set the parameters of what questions you are asked?  Not sound debate strategy.  Many here have asked you to not ask them hypotheticals, but you continue to do so and then mock them for not answering.  I think the readers will see the clear double standard.  As for the question, it was not asking you to "cast an aspiration", it was being used to draw out your thinking on the subject, and it did loud and clear.  As for the TPP, I will answer your question in that thread.  Let's stay on topic here.
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Dewey:  You sound like you are getting flustered. 


Tyler - You keep repeating that as if it's supposed to get to me, (you sound an awful lot like a returning member from way back when...care to name that friend's daughter who you followed during season's past)?  I think it's a bit immature but you can continue to characterize me, everyone else does when they lack a response.  How can I be flustered by what goes on here after six years?  In any event, you failed to show where this author was pushing an agenda.  What happened?

Dewey

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I'm sorry.  I shouldn't have said everyone else does.  That isn't true.  My bad.
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Well, you are getting all excited and off topic.  If you would just stay on point and not delve into self-pity and making demands of other posters, I wouldn't have to remind you. 

If an author picks the morning of a deadly train accident to remind the public that republicans voted to cut funding to Amtrack, without even knowing the cause of the wreck, there is certainly an agenda.  Claiming to not see that is just being intellectually dishonest.  It would be like a Fox News author writing the day of a military plane going down that the democrats cut funding to the military.  I would be the first here to say the article was in poor taste.
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The author was reporting on legislation that, ironically, was in front of a committee at the same time.  You're blaming him for covering an event.

Edit:  He was also covering recent events and disputes over this legislation.
Dewey

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Correction:  The author was referencing last Wednesday's committee events along with other recent discussions and not the current committee meetings.
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A little debate tip - read the article before you try to tell the readers what is in it.  The first author spent about 2/3 of the article talking about issues going back to 2009 and mentioned G.W. Bush.  I was not aware he was currently in congress.
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So he spent 2 days commenting on a link you posted Tyler in post #1 and he didn't even read the link until 30 minutes ago but he wants to lecture you on discourse. What a putz. Dewy why do you continue to detour meaningful discourse and hijack threads? You are nothing more than a troll moderator
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Tyler - Here's a tip for you.  When you accuse an author of pushing an agenda, you might want to actually quote where he did so.
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A little debate tip - read the article before you try to tell the readers what is in it.  The first author spent about 2/3 of the article talking about issues going back to 2009 and mentioned G.W. Bush.  I was not aware he was currently in congress.



He doesn't even read his own links, what in the h&ll makes you think he would read one of yours?

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“Amtrak has been nickel and dimed to death for its entire history,” said Ed Wytkind of the AFL-CIO’s Transportation Trades Department. “But when something goes wrong, they blame Amtrak, despite all the resource-starving.”

From the link

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Dewey

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Tyler - Secondly, notice the title of the link?  Remember when some Conservatives thought my sentence was misleading?  I'm shocked you guys don't see the partisan tunnel vision.

Lost 1 - Found time to chime in on the TPP thread yet?  Are you still at 60 some percent?

kiir - The author was quoting another.  That's my point.  No agenda, just reporting facts.
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"It’s not yet clear what caused the derailment. But Amtrak, a public funded rail service that’s run as a private corporation, has long been in the cross-hairs of Congressional budget-cutters, including high-profile figures like Sens. John McCain and Tom Coburn, and George W. Bush—even as its outdated technology and infrastructure require increasing upgrades, and ridership increases."

Pretty much the definition of pushing an agenda.  It's the second paragraph.  Figured if you were lecturing about an issue, you had actually educated yourself on it.
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Tyler - Secondly, notice the title of the link?  Remember when some Conservatives thought my sentence was misleading?  I'm shocked you guys don't see the partisan tunnel vision.

Lost 1 - Found time to chime in on the TPP thread yet?  Are you still at 60 some percent?



No need to comment if I haven't changed any of my outlook.

Didn't know I was requested to comment at that.


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“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.” Winston S. Churchill


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Tyler - Here's a tip for you.  When you accuse an author of pushing an agenda, you might want to actually quote where he did so.


A person can read a link and see an agenda. dewy you said you weren't here to find media bias, you are here to harass the members. Your words, today

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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Third paragraph:

Amtrak’s critics—many of whom are ideologically committed to shrinking government, and represent areas of the country that aren’t heavily dependent on passenger rail transport—describe the system as wasteful and inefficient
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