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keepinitreal

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"All you have to do is look at Power’s Twitter page to see that yesterday’s champions of diversity are today’s intolerants."
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The media is jumping at the opportunity to ask GOP candidates "knowing what we know now, would you have invaded Iraq?"

Not one has asked Obama or Clinton "knowing what we know now, would you have abandoned Iraq?"

It's as if Obama and Clinton duck the tough questions - by not making themselves available.

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mikec - There are always those who will attack somebody for sharing their opinions.  I would hope one could challenge another in a respectful manner.  That said, I couldn't see where they called Kirsten any derogatory names.  Did I miss them?  They did accuse her of not helping the gay movement which is certainly a mis-characterization of her position on free speech.  In any event, there is a case to be made that Kirsten has found an avenue to include criticizing her own Party, which is necessary, imo, if she plans on selling any books to the Fox audience.


Predictable answer, taken straight from the playbooks of the people criticizing her.

The bottom line is:  If Dems are the ones doing the villanizing, then it's OK.
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mikec - When Democrats challenge fellow Democrats, it's not always an attack or villainization.  Maybe you can be more specific as to what negative shots Kirsten has been subject to?  Clearly I think you're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.  She doesn't need a hanky here so please don't give her one.  She's a big girl and I've seen no name calling yet.
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Not one has asked Obama or Clinton "knowing what we know now, would you have abandoned Iraq?"


President Bush signed the agreement that we would leave at time certain and Iraq didn't want to revise the agreement.  It's fact and suggesting President Obama could have persuaded them otherwise is a GOP talking point.  Can we blame these Republicans for trying to sell this claim?  They simply want to hand off this Iraq debacle to the Democrats and wipe their hands clean of getting us in there in the first place.  Please don't put the Republicans back in power or a push to send 1000's more troops to Iraq may once again be in the news.
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The media is jumping at the opportunity to ask GOP candidates "knowing what we know now, would you have invaded Iraq?"

Not one has asked Obama or Clinton "knowing what we know now, would you have abandoned Iraq?"

It's as if Obama and Clinton duck the tough questions - by not making themselves available.


How do you like the evasion from your post? Jeb has a trying time distancing himself from his brother and dewy still found a way to tie the reluctant media to GW Bush.

The question was why doesn't the media ask Clinton the same questions and dewy pisses in the pool and talks about Bush. Good grief.

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When Bush ordered the surge, it worked. After the "withdrawal", Obama stood by and allowed ISIS, and Iran to fight over control of Iraq. Now Syria is in danger of falling under the control of "rebel" forces, which include ISIS . Unless Russia steps in, and by force takes back control of Syrian ports that Russia abandoned, "rebel" and ISIS forces will take control. Keep in mind that both Syria and Iran are Russian proxies, and Russia is using Iran and Hezbolah to resupply and fight alongside the Syrian regime. The Saudis, our presumed allies are seeing us abandon them, and for once, the Saudis have some skin in the fight, and are conducting air operations. The Iranians are Shia, and the Saudis are Sunni. The Saudis and the US are backing the "rebels", which include ISIS. The tribal warfare is spilling over into Yemen, a strategic point to control oil shipments in the Suez Canal. The Saudis don't want Iran controlling neighboring countries, and formenting unrest in it's own backyard. The US is on the surface abandoning support for the Saudi Sunni position, and at the same time, walking a razors edge by supoorting ISIS efforts against the Syrians. All this, and at the same time killing ISIS leaders. So now we are locked into tribal warfare, and stuck into publicly attacking ISIS, and at the same time through the Saudis, we are using ISIS to fight the Assad regime backed by Russia, and Iran. This is a sh#t storm, and goes bad quickly. We need Kerry, or Obama to go to Putin, and work a deal to stop what could only be a catastrophe. Leave Assad in power, a known evil, and in return, secure Saudi Arabia, and Yemen from advances by Iran. If you don't want to see the ME turned into a firestorm, and an all out religious war overtake the region, and the economic instability resulting from the interuption of the flow of oil, some adults on both sides of the conflict better be doing some really serious back channel talks. This is a bad situation.
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Gloria Borger is one dumb blonde liberal POS
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CNN did some housecleaning after having to retract a story last week.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/339411-cnn-imposing-new-rules-on-russia-stories

CNNMoney executive editor Rich Barbieri sent out an email Saturday regarding the network's new rules after CNN a day earlier issued a retraction on one of its stories.

"No one should publish any content involving Russia without coming to me and Jason [Farkas]," said the email, obtained by BuzzFeed News.

"This applies to social, video, editorial, and MoneyStream. No exceptions," the email added. "I will lay out a workflow Monday."
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A source close to CNN told BuzzFeed the incident was a "massive, massive f--- up and people will be disciplined."

http://thehill.com/media/339564-three-resign-from-cnn-over-russia-story-retraction

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Project Veritas strikes again.  CNN producer freely admits that Russia was a bull6hit and it is all ratings. 
http://www.veritaslive.com/06-26-2017/americanpravdacnn.html
Openly laughs about ongoing investigation. 



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Project Veritas strikes again.  CNN producer freely admits that Russia was a bull6hit and it is all ratings. 
http://www.veritaslive.com/06-26-2017/americanpravdacnn.html
Openly laughs about ongoing investigation. 




They said today was the day.  Bankruptcy to pay for legal fees or many more layoffs was how 'they' described it last night on Twitterverse.

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Big Question.  With no CNN help, does mikec soldier on with his nubile reporters seeking ultimate muh Russia truth?  Or is the gig up?
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Does UWA keep making up stupid crap to fake how great his hero is?

If you had paid attention, I have said all along I don't believe trump colluded with Russia.  I don't doubt for a second some folks around him may have had inappropriate contacts with foreign governments as private citizens unauthorized to do so.

You may also remember that I've said that, even if he did obstruct, I can't imagine it rises to impeachment, regardless of whether dems or repubs are in charge.

As much as I dislike this guy, forcible removal over something minor would be bad for the country.

Make up some stupid crap about me on another topic liar.

edited to add:  will UWA continue to buy into a failed trumpcare plan, and blame it on Ryan, that will stick us with Obamacare for the rest of our lives, and use this CNN stupidity as cover?


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Big Question.  With no CNN help, does mikec soldier on with his nubile reporters seeking ultimate muh Russia truth?  Or is the gig up?
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Does UWA keep making up stupid crap to fake how great his hero is?

If you had paid attention, I have said all along I don't believe trump colluded with Russia.  I don't doubt for a second some folks around him may have had inappropriate contacts with foreign governments as private citizens unauthorized to do so.

You may also remember that I've said that, even if he did obstruct, I can't imagine it rises to impeachment, regardless of whether dems or repubs are in charge.

As much as I dislike this guy, forcible removal over something minor would be bad for the country.

Make up some stupid crap about me on another topic liar.



haha.  Option 3.  Deny you had a "muh Russia" thing going ever.  Act like the nubile reporters were never in play. 

"THE FACTS: Trump's claim that he was cleared of wrongdoing by Comey's testimony is groundless. Comey testified that the FBI investigation into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign did not extend to Trump himself during the time Comey was leading the FBI."

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Bragging early in the campaign about his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he said "I got to know him very well because we were both on '60 Minutes'," even though they were on different segments from different locations. When perceived closeness became a potential liability, Trump took to saying, "I don't know Putin."

"Because of this FBI investigation into Russia?  I thought the Russia investigation was much bigger than the collusion claim."


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Project Veritas strikes again.  CNN producer freely admits that Russia was a bull6hit and it is all ratings. 
http://www.veritaslive.com/06-26-2017/americanpravdacnn.html
Openly laughs about ongoing investigation. 




Just finished the video and it's only Part 1.  Nailed their liberal agenda that joisey and dewy denied for so many years.  CNN should have it's own thread when this full story is exposed.  I hope dietwatereddown coke, slapper and the cisgender BAMATARD watched that video

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Yea I just finished watching it also. Lib spin gonna go hard for a while on this. Seems catastrophic for FNN, but I suspect their viewers won't be surprised or dissuaded so things will go on as before.
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Does UWA keep making up stupid crap to fake how great his hero is?


Again, is this even a question?
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Again, is this even a question?

I thought you bailed like dewey.

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Nah - just ignoring the spammer in chief.
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Nah - just ignoring the spammer in chief.

ignoring and replying?  Explains you and the dog getting along so well.

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Didn't want you to think I bailed, just don't pay attention to your propaganda.

Try an original thought.
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Didn't want you to think I bailed, just don't pay attention to your propaganda. Try an original thought.

Trump is doing fine.  In fact he is doing great.  The more they hit him with completely ineffective attack the stronger he gets, and the weaker CNN/opposition/nevertrump gets.  The deep state leakage stuff is now largely drawing laughs.  The muh Russia investigation fully collapsed, and most people no longer believe those that promulgated the conflation of Trump and Russia.  Mueller is already so out of position on everything he is doing.  Congress proposing to have Ginsberg recused from anything involving Trump is an aggressive strategy that will continue to put dopey dems on the defensive, and may lead to her early retirement. 

I am not prepared to state the senate bill is worthless or more harmful.  mike and Levin are correct in that it really comes down to the individual mandate, and if we have a true market solution or a true socialist solution.  If people can, somewhat, freely enter or exit insurance, then it will be market oriented and if it meets the needs of people they will participate.  If not, they should vote it down.  Not sure Trump fully understands that.  Certain a number of republicans more intrested in reelection for sure want to not fully understand that.  Time for repulicans to stand up and do what is right.

Now it is your turn.

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  Certain a number of republicans more intrested in reelection for sure want to not fully understand that. 


Watch it now, I got a bottle of brown water bet in 2018

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why don't you list all of the ones at Fox and others that colluded with trump.  Here's a start:
- Hannity
- all of Fox and Friends
- Nauert
- Gilfoyle
- Boling
- Carlson
- Ingraham
- Coulter
- any number of "pundits", like Gingrich, Crowley, Gorka, on and on
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You do what you do, I do what I do.  Sounds fair to me

Hannity and others freely admit they are not journalists, they are pundits.  Do you know the difference because I won't spend more than 2 minutes discussing the difference with you

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Diane Sawyer and Wolf Blitzer, just those 2 for now, have always maintained that they are journalists as written on my list
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why don't you list all of the ones at Fox and others that colluded with trump.  Here's a start:
- Hannity
- all of Fox and Friends
- Nauert
- Gilfoyle
- Boling
- Carlson
- Ingraham
- Coulter
- any number of "pundits", like Gingrich, Crowley, Gorka, on and on

Well that is a pretty weak list.  How did Trump possibly get elected?

You seem to not like that Trump is having a lot of success pointing out the obvious agenda with American media companies like CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS?     Republicans that have done this successfully are usually the best at forwarding conservative principles. 

The media proved the extent of their collusion by working with the DNC to illegally thwart the election of their nominee.  That is concerning to a large number of Americans right and left.   It is a major problem.

The rollup of media companies into ever larger entities that have the power to forcibly push their agenda on to the American people creates concerns.  Include the wielding of the google, facebook, and reddit the far left leaning fiscal and social agenda these companies are pushing creates issues.  When it comes to:
- Normalizing gay/trans/even worse behaviors.
- Forwarding a large government large tax agenda.
- Forwarding a new world order agenda, that says US citizens must prostate themselves to all other nations.
- White guilt agenda.

The fact that you don't have a problem with these issues is strange.

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