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Fiftytwosdad

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http://www.lamarcardinals.com/news/2018/4/27/softball-bruder-placed-on-administrative-leave.aspx
greymatter

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Sad and surprised to see this, any idea what the violation may be?
Fiftytwosdad

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I spoke with a current player's dad last night and he seems to think it will not end well for the coach.  But ya never know.
1janiedough

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I wonder if she is any relation to Phil Bruder.
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I spoke with a current player's dad last night and he seems to think it will not end well for the coach.  But ya never know.


I agree from what I understand of the situation. It's a shame considering where the program has grown to in such a short time.
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Not a stellar reputation when she left Morehead State prior to Lamar.
Devin22

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Well, what is it? Drinking?  Maybe a George Costanza, bootleggin the movie...I could do "hardtime" and even "Community Service"....
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Ran across this update, with some details. https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Softball-player-Lamar-violated-her-faith-12891263.php A little bit like what happened at U F under our last coach!
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Coach should of gone with Bootleggin the movie...Instead of making her eat a Chicken sandwich....
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You would think that coaches would have enough human decency to respect the religious preferences of players.  It could be a pure authority thing or ignorance of religious rules.  I once had a job where the boss did not understand why a jewish coworker left early on Fridays, not knowing a thing about respecting the sabbath.  The boss thought the worker was a slacker on fridays by leaving before sundown.  I told his secretary and we figured out a way to educate the boss about Friday sundown to Saturday sundown.  The coaches obviously never went to McDonalds on friday during lent when filiet of fish is the meal of choice.  
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Ran across this update, with some details. https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Softball-player-Lamar-violated-her-faith-12891263.php A little bit like what happened at U F under our last coach!


How do you figure? The kid who accused Johns of discrimination was never a starter. She was a walk on who always struggled both offensively and defensively to compete at that level. Her junior year was Johns’s first year and she decided that Johns was not playing her based on her sexual orientation. Sadly, it was a total farce that Johns lost her job and her reputation over. Walton is the right coach for UF, but Johns never deserved that mess. It was proven untrue later, but that didn’t get as much press. The only likeness between these two situations is the word discrimination.
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So, did she actually eat the chicken sandwich?  The article doesn't make that clear.
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Good Lord, I would never allow another person to tell me what I can or can't eat...and further, I would have my own money to buy my own meal at all times.  Ridiculous.
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It does seem strange. My kid played with vegetarians and if the coaches didn’t order their meals special they just made do. I can’t imagine that a coach stood over her and made her eat a sammich
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It does seem strange. My kid played with vegetarians and if the coaches didn’t order their meals special they just made do. I can’t imagine that a coach stood over her and made her eat a sammich


The article said the player offered to eat her alternative food she had but was made to eat half the chicken sandwich. This seems trivial to alot of us but why should she have give up her beliefs. Wrong is wrong.
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The facts of the story in the article are fake news. The press today only prints what seems sensational and fits their narrative. 

Many players have gone to the reporter and the AD to dispute the facts of the story and they refuse to print another story. However, the dad keeps leaking info and they have no problem printing that.

There is a bigger picture here and the BS about a sandwich is just being used as the distraction.
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My kid did not like what was served and was nice enough to say that she would make due with other food.  Instead, her coach decided to make a spectacle out of the situation in front of the team and belittle her.  Although, this happened a lot with that coach!!!!
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The article said the player offered to eat her alternative food she had but was made to eat half the chicken sandwich. This seems trivial to alot of us but why should she have give up her beliefs. Wrong is wrong.


Ummm...nobody "makes" you eat anything in this day and age.

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The article said the player offered to eat her alternative food she had but was made to eat half the chicken sandwich. This seems trivial to alot of us but why should she have give up her beliefs. Wrong is wrong.

Agreed but I firmly believe no one made her eat that sandwich. If it was such a big deal to go to the damn paper to her daddy and cause such a crap storm, she should’ve complained right then and there and stood by her beliefs. I commend her for staying true to her beliefs but don’t go and gripe about it later, take care of it right then and there. If this were high school I’d understand but not an adult college athlete.

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"If you hate softball players so much post on a different board."

Says the worst manhater to ever walk the face of the earth.
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This is not the only college softball coach who thinks that it is acceptable to control what their players eat and how much they eat.  Whether it is telling them they are too fat or telling them they don't eat enough.  It is always women coaches who do this.  FYI, these players have a mother. Their coaches are not their mothers, they need to learn their place in these players lives.  



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This is not the only college softball coach who thinks that it is acceptable to control what their players eat and how much they eat.  Whether it is telling them they are too fat or telling them they don't eat enough.  It is always women coaches who do this.  FYI, these players have a mother. Their coaches are not their mothers, they need to learn their place in these players lives.  




Laudible post but good luck with that. 
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I know. 


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Laudible post but good luck with that. 


Actually when I played at OSU in the 80's, we had a weight limit coming in and this is proper discipline for college athletes to have to meet.
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It's not only about the sammich.  Heard something about providing or making alcohol accessible to underage players or some variation involving alcohol. 

Don't know if this has anything to do with the situation at hand, but any decent person should not be saying these things. Heard two stories saying the same thing from two different people (who don't know each other)about the coach referring to her players as "her B17ches".  

Oh well.  Hopefully, they find someone good.
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How do you figure? The kid who accused Johns of discrimination was never a starter. She was a walk on who always struggled both offensively and defensively to compete at that level. Her junior year was Johns’s first year and she decided that Johns was not playing her based on her sexual orientation. Sadly, it was a total farce that Johns lost her job and her reputation over. Walton is the right coach for UF, but Johns never deserved that mess. It was proven untrue later, but that didn’t get as much press. The only likeness between these two situations is the word discrimination.


Actually, the Univerity setlled the kids case to the satisfaction of all. Karen wasnt fired until another so-so season had passed. And she coninued to coch elsewhere. The similarities I saw were the overbearing controls alleged in both cases and perhaps too much blind support of possibly complicit assistants.
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This is not the only college softball coach who thinks that it is acceptable to control what their players eat and how much they eat.  Whether it is telling them they are too fat or telling them they don't eat enough.  It is always women coaches who do this.  FYI, these players have a mother. Their coaches are not their mothers, they need to learn their place in these players lives.  




Your post was plausible until your crummy sexist remark that “it is always women coaches who do this”. Larry Ray did this. EE did this. I can name a few active male coaches as well, but prefer not to. You may have only experienced female coaches doing this, but it is not uncommon among ALL coaches. They are athletes, and it is not unreasonable to expect them to maintain an appropriate level of mobility commensurate to their positions.
Having said all that, that entire conversation is irrelevant to this particular situation.
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Actually when I played at OSU in the 80's, we had a weight limit coming in and this is proper discipline for college athletes to have to meet.



Apparently those limits are long gone in college softball.....

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Apparently those limits are long gone in college softball.....


No, they’re not. Multiple programs have surprisingly tough fitness tests that have to be passed before they’ll allow the player to compete.
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She was fired.
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