Ultimate College Softball
Sign up Calendar Latest Topics
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment  
UGASBFan

Registered:
Posts: 2,280
Reply with quote  #1 

So, for anyone who doesn't know, this past weekend a UGA baseball player (Adam Sasser) directed racially-charged comments towards a UGA football player (Justin Fields), and as of yesterday, he has been dismissed from the team. A lot of people (including myself) think this was the right thing to do, because, simply put: racism has no place in sports. And really, it has no place in general, but people are going to do what they want to do regardless so that's pretty much that. Yes, he's young, but that's not really an excuse is it? Yes, he was 'drinking', but are we really going to allow that excuse? IMO, no. There's no valid excuse for that, as Mr. Sasser has now learned. 

 

However, this is a softball forum, and with that, I'll allow myself to get back on track. 

Kaylee Tow (Alabama softball), was recently "suspended from the team" due to a "violation of team rules", leaving her ineligible for fall ball/fall activities and putting 2019 up in the air. Her offense? (Allegedly) threatening to harm a fellow teammate over a boy, which is... You know, that's a thing too. My question is this: If we're going to kick a baseball player off a team for racist comments (which again, I agree with), why not do the same thing in this situation? It has already (or I should say "allegedly") lead to one other player (NOT the player threatened) seeking another school. She "no longer felt safe" within the Alabama team, and yes folks, before you ask-- she was a starter, too. You could downplay both things, say "boys will be boys" and "girls will be girls", but in my opinion... Both have no place staying where they are. Sasser has already been dismissed from the team, and will all due respect I think Ms. Tow should experience the same.

Racism and threats of violence are as ignorant of a choice to make as they sound. Both (Adam and Kaylee) deserve shots at redemption, but elsewhere, possibly even away from D1 ranks (for a year at least). Georgia showed they wouldn't tolerate it and I think Alabama should do the same, as it sends the wrong message. If you have a player leaving because she doesn't feel safe, again... I just gotta think that perhaps keeping her isn't the best decision. 

I know both are young. I know both made mistakes. However, you can be both of those things and your actions still not be excusable. I think that's the case we have in hand here. What does everyone else think?

TheNarrator

Registered:
Posts: 7,922
Reply with quote  #2 
Saw the Sasser thing online. Any evidence to the Alabama situation?
Stephen

Registered:
Posts: 2,175
Reply with quote  #3 
Long on words and short on facts.
SECFan04

Registered:
Posts: 540
Reply with quote  #4 
Quote:
Kaylee Tow (Alabama softball), was recently "suspended from the team" due to a "violation of team rules", leaving her ineligible for fall ball/fall activities and putting 2019 up in the air. Her offense? (Allegedly) threatening to harm a fellow teammate over a boy


So thats what that was about...

Losing Tow would be a pretty big blow for Alabama 
Softball98mom

Registered:
Posts: 331
Reply with quote  #5 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SECFan04


So thats what that was about...

Losing Tow would be a pretty big blow for Alabama 


Technically they haven’t ‘lost’ her, she just isn’t playing fall ball(allegedly) ...big whoop. Being suspended from the regular season is when it matters.
TaacAsunSunblt

Registered:
Posts: 172
Reply with quote  #6 
Did Gabby Calloway leave the team?  Did she transfer?

My husband read the article about the GA baseball player and I thought he said one of the softball players turned him in.
PH2

Registered:
Posts: 627
Reply with quote  #7 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Softball98mom


Technically they haven’t ‘lost’ her, she just isn’t playing fall ball(allegedly) ...big whoop. Being suspended from the regular season is when it matters.


I think the suggestion is that if her being on the team is going to cause continuing issues, they may just let her go.
Softball98mom

Registered:
Posts: 331
Reply with quote  #8 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaacAsunSunblt
Did Gabby Calloway leave the team?  Did she transfer?

My husband read the article about the GA baseball player and I thought he said one of the softball players turned him in.


She’s not on the roster.

3 UGA female students reported the incident according to online articles, I didn’t see /hear anything about a softball player turning him in.
UGASBFan

Registered:
Posts: 2,280
Reply with quote  #9 
Callaway is the player that left due to Tow, yes, but not the one who was allegedly threatened.
TheNarrator

Registered:
Posts: 7,922
Reply with quote  #10 
Is there any corroborating evidence to any of this, or just hearsay?
SmileyAnders

Registered:
Posts: 966
Reply with quote  #11 
Quote:
Georgia showed they wouldn't tolerate it 

Once the story's out in the media he's making the whole university look bad if the punishment is light. The Bama case is pretty much just in-house even if it sounds bad. A big reason for different degrees of punishment.
ShepJones1_1

Registered:
Posts: 181
Reply with quote  #12 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UGASBFan

So, for anyone who doesn't know, this past weekend a UGA baseball player (Adam Sasser) directed racially-charged comments towards a UGA football player (Justin Fields), and as of yesterday, he has been dismissed from the team. A lot of people (including myself) think this was the right thing to do, because, simply put: racism has no place in sports. And really, it has no place in general, but people are going to do what they want to do regardless so that's pretty much that. Yes, he's young, but that's not really an excuse is it? Yes, he was 'drinking', but are we really going to allow that excuse? IMO, no. There's no valid excuse for that, as Mr. Sasser has now learned. 

 However, this is a softball forum, and with that, I'll allow myself to get back on track. 

Kaylee Tow (Alabama softball), was recently "suspended from the team" due to a "violation of team rules", leaving her ineligible for fall ball/fall activities and putting 2019 up in the air. Her offense? (Allegedly) threatening to harm a fellow teammate over a boy, which is... You know, that's a thing too. My question is this: If we're going to kick a baseball player off a team for racist comments (which again, I agree with), why not do the same thing in this situation? It has already (or I should say "allegedly") lead to one other player (NOT the player threatened) seeking another school. She "no longer felt safe" within the Alabama team, and yes folks, before you ask-- she was a starter, too. You could downplay both things, say "boys will be boys" and "girls will be girls", but in my opinion... Both have no place staying where they are. Sasser has already been dismissed from the team, and will all due respect I think Ms. Tow should experience the same.

Racism and threats of violence are as ignorant of a choice to make as they sound. Both (Adam and Kaylee) deserve shots at redemption, but elsewhere, possibly even away from D1 ranks (for a year at least). Georgia showed they wouldn't tolerate it and I think Alabama should do the same, as it sends the wrong message. If you have a player leaving because she doesn't feel safe, again... I just gotta think that perhaps keeping her isn't the best decision. 

I know both are young. I know both made mistakes. However, you can be both of those things and your actions still not be excusable. I think that's the case we have in hand here. What does everyone else think?


Like to stir the crap pot don't you?  You are comparing apples to oranges in this instance.  An argument over a boy does not in anyway equate to overt racism.  Go peddle your tabloid headlines somewhere else.  and by the way, Callaway was not a starter.  While she did start some games last year, she was not an everyday player.
SECFan04

Registered:
Posts: 540
Reply with quote  #13 
Quote:
ShepJones1_1



[image] 
PH2

Registered:
Posts: 627
Reply with quote  #14 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShepJones1_1

Like to stir the crap pot don't you?  You are comparing apples to oranges in this instance.  An argument over a boy does not in anyway equate to overt racism.  Go peddle your tabloid headlines somewhere else.  and by the way, Callaway was not a starter.  While she did start some games last year, she was not an everyday player.


Callaway started 50 games, which is more than anyone on the team... except Tow.
LongBallGuru

Registered:
Posts: 100
Reply with quote  #15 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PH2


Callaway started 50 games, which is more than anyone on the team... except Tow.

Source? 

__________________
Why run when you can just trot around the bases!
PH2

Registered:
Posts: 627
Reply with quote  #16 
Um... the stats?

https://rolltide.com/cumestats.aspx?path=softball

TheMom

Registered:
Posts: 25
Reply with quote  #17 
This was more than just one girl fight, there has been an ongoing problem and the coaches are just finding out about it and are trying to correct the problem before there is any more damage. Sad that a girl left the team because of this issue! Hopefully Tow will take this lesson and learn to get along with and respect all of her teammates. The talent at Alabama won't perform at its full potential until the chemistry improves, I think it impacted the team negatively last year, so I am hoping this gets them moving back in the right direction, Roll Tide!
Gators2014

Registered:
Posts: 4,079
Reply with quote  #18 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PH2
Um... the stats?

https://rolltide.com/cumestats.aspx?path=softball



I applaud this comment and it made me lol.
northernlights

Registered:
Posts: 63
Reply with quote  #19 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShepJones1_1

You are comparing apples to oranges in this instance.  An argument over a boy does not in anyway equate to overt racism.


You're also comparing apples to oranges if you think calling someone a racially derogatory name is anywhere near as bad as threatening someone with physical harm.  Why you've downgraded a threat of violence into an "argument over a boy" and elevated a derogatory term into some sort of blasphemy that must be punished suggests you're reacting on an emotional, rather than a rational, level.  Mean works are not danger like words threatening violence are, regardless how offended the words make you.
musftblfan

Registered:
Posts: 1,183
Reply with quote  #20 
Quote:
Originally Posted by northernlights


You're also comparing apples to oranges if you think calling someone a racially derogatory name is anywhere near as bad as threatening someone with physical harm.  Why you've downgraded a threat of violence into an "argument over a boy" and elevated a derogatory term into some sort of blasphemy that must be punished suggests you're reacting on an emotional, rather than a rational, level.  Mean works are not danger like words threatening violence are, regardless how offended the words make you.


Wow excellent job minimizing the fact that the white baseball player was repeatedly saying “n*gger” - that’s apparently just “mean” and “a derogatory term” to you?

__________________
live in Brooklyn, NY, raised in St. Louis. not a lot of people know I like softball this much..... 
aarong3000

Registered:
Posts: 422
Reply with quote  #21 
It’s sad that Tow is allowed to stay on the team and the other 2 girls are forced to leave the program. It should be the other way around. Tow should actually follow the Bible verses that she is always quoting on Twitter!
DueDilligence

Registered:
Posts: 1
Reply with quote  #22 
Who left besides Callaway?
jayrot

Registered:
Posts: 17,790
Reply with quote  #23 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aarong3000
It’s sad that Tow is allowed to stay on the team and the other 2 girls are forced to leave the program. It should be the other way around. Tow should actually follow the Bible verses that she is always quoting on Twitter!


Forced is the wrong word, even if your intentions with the post are correct.
SECFan04

Registered:
Posts: 540
Reply with quote  #24 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aarong3000
It’s sad that Tow is allowed to stay on the team and the other 2 girls are forced to leave the program. It should be the other way around. Tow should actually follow the Bible verses that she is always quoting on Twitter!


Murphy would never get rid of Tow, he needs her 
aarong3000

Registered:
Posts: 422
Reply with quote  #25 
Well the coach chose Tow over Calloway and the other girl, is that a better choice of words. She is suspended for the fall but will obviously be back in the Spring since she is posting pictures of herself in her uniform and promoting the fact that she will be back. It definitely sets a bad example for the rest of the team!
mhowe

Registered:
Posts: 1
Reply with quote  #26 
I am confused and need some clarity on this. Can someone answer the following questions?

1. What was the threat of physical harm?

2. Did TWO girls leave the team?

3. Was Calloway personally threatened, too?
TruDat

Registered:
Posts: 1,392
Reply with quote  #27 
You mean the great Coach Murphy has problems on his team? Heaven forbid. I thought that place was softball Nirvana.
Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Quick Navigation:

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.