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Mark_H

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Small sample size but Cornell is looking pretty scary. They have a long history of hitting. If their pitching steps up, who knows. Dartmouth will have to hit like they are capable of if they are going to win it. If they can sweep UH, you would think they could handle the Ivy pitching. As to pitching, the pitcher of game one is much better than that. I'm guessing freshman jitters but we will see.

5+ losses for the Ivy winner seems excessive but so far it IS a strange year. I wouldn't put serious money down against you.

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Cornell took 2 from Harvard? Cornell is playing pretty well. These could be a crazy year!
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Is this inconsistency or parity?  I think there is more inconsistency than before with the leader teams.  Harvard is clearly underperforming given the talent and the bench.  Dartmouth needs to regain its hitting to be able to compete.  I bet 3-4 teams break out and leave the others behind but there may be ties in the records.  Does anyone know the tiebreaker rules?  
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Will all 8 teams be in the mix... No

Can I see 5-6 teams being within 2-3 games of each other with a weekend to go?  Absolutely.  
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Should be a fun year if you are not an Ivy coach. Going to be a greying hair year for them.
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Weather looks a little warmer this weekend.. let's hope it allows the girls to play at their max level

predictions for the weekend:

Columbia @ Dartmouth:  Can the lions keep up their early winning ways?  Can Dartmouth snap out of their slump?  I think the Lions can win 2/3

Cornell at Yale:  Surprise team in the Big Red.  I think they get at least 2,, maybe sweep.

Penn at Brown:  Penn having a down year,, Brown up and down.  I think Brown gets 2/3

Princeton at Harvard:  rematch of last year's championship... both teams need some wins.. I think Harvard sweeps.

Good luck to all teams and their STUDENT athletes.



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Interesting day. Maybe tomorrow it will clear up.
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Is this inconsistency or parity?  I think there is more inconsistency than before with the leader teams.  Harvard is clearly underperforming given the talent and the bench.  Dartmouth needs to regain its hitting to be able to compete.  I bet 3-4 teams break out and leave the others behind but there may be ties in the records.  Does anyone know the tiebreaker rules?  


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Hmmm. Of the four double headers today, Dartmouth Columbia is the only pair that split.
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The programs losing two today are having trouble putting runs on the board.  Not surprised with Brown, but a little surprised with Cornell and Princeton.
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I see Dartmouth took 2/3 on Columbia this weekend.
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Under the old North South system, if you got behind 3 or more games to someone in your division, it was almost impossible to catch up.  After the first 3 weekends, you had a pretty good idea of which team would be fighting for the division lead.  With one league and no divisions, some teams are playing harder teams early and others are playing them later.  I noticed makeups were made up in the same week, so maybe they will not hold some of those until the end like before.  Harvard looks pretty strong this weekend.  Dartmouth's hitting is coming around and they are pitching three pitchers.  Some of the other teams that are underperforming may be dealing with injuries so you never know when a team could come alive.  
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Hope you are right about Dartmouth hitting. They are at the bottom of the conference only stats for hitting and at the top of the conference only stats for pitching with Harvard mid range in all conference only stats. If Dartmouth starts hitting I think they will run away with it. If not, it may well be interesting most of the season.
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Next weekend will be very interesting.  Harvard visits Columbia and that is the series Dartmouth took 2-1.  Columbia has 11 conference HRs.  Dartmouth goes to Princeton, a team that has only won 4 games all year.  Brown at Cornell and Yale at Penn.  The latter games could be a major setback for a team that fails to garner a split.  Weather held up this weekend and hope it is good next weekend.
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Harvard-Columbia will be a match to watch. May very well clear away some fog.
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Is this inconsistency or parity?  I think there is more inconsistency than before with the leader teams.  Harvard is clearly underperforming given the talent and the bench.  Dartmouth needs to regain its hitting to be able to compete.  I bet 3-4 teams break out and leave the others behind but there may be ties in the records.  Does anyone know the tiebreaker rules?  


Historically (at least recently), there were no tiebreakers.  Any ties at season end were resolved by playoffs to determine the top North and South seeds.  There was a league-wide off weekend between the championship series and the regional to provide some extra time; Ivies could be postponed a week for extra games needed to sort out season-ending ties.

This year's realignment might have forced a change to this approach, because that extra week's buffer is gone.  Half the teams are playing their final conference series the weekend before Ivy champ weekend, and the regionals start 4-5 days after that.
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It would be ironic if an Ivy League softball official did not come up with tiebreaker rules before the season began!

Many Ivy league teams play midweek games.  Some limit them to one or two during the season.  In my dd experience, the midweek games distracted from practice and often caused students to miss half a day of classes.  Coaches often do not pitch their ace so the results do not put the best 9 players on the field.  And, there were injuries in midweek games that affected the ivy seasons.  In softball, players are not put on ir, therefore only a few know why a player is on the bench.  Maybe some schools are close enough to their competition that the impact on school is not significant.  But for others, it means missing half or a whole day.  If you have 12 people on the bench, the midweek game could let a coach test the players who do not play much.
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looks like the cold weather makes a strong return this weekend,,, c'mon spring.. where are you ???

Games this weekend:

Brown @ Cornell:  Should be low scoring,, Brown looking for their first series win of the year, Cornell looking to bounce back after losing 2/3 from Yale last weekend.  I think Brown gets at least 2 this weekend.

Dartmouth @ Princeton.  Tigers having a tough season.  Big Green looking to get rolling.  I think Princeton has enough to salvage at least a game.

Yale @ Penn.  Penn playing some better ball lately.  They have a couple of nice mid week wins in the past couple of weeks, as well as getting two from Brown last weekend.  Yale looking to salvage the season and stay alive in the race.  I think Penn has a chance to sweep.

Harvard @ Columbia.  After sweeping Princeton last weekend, is this now the Harvard team that most people thought would win the league?  After losing 2/3 at Dartmouth last week, Columbia looks to rebound... I think they do and get 2/3 from the Crimson.

Good luck to all the teams and their STUDENT athletes !!!!! 


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After most of the games this weekend, Yale, Brown, and Princeton are gathering at the bottom.  Cornell, Dartmouth and Harvard holding the top with Harvard having one more weekend of games.  Penn and Columbia in the middle with Penn trending up.  Dartmouth has to play two of the teams in the top and that will shake things out for that group.  The middle teams have to get some 3 game sweeps to catch up.  The teams at the bottom can be spoilers, but it will be hard for them to get in the top two.  Note: if the tiebreaker is H2H, one teams will always have that because of the 3 game series so that is an easy tiebreaker if you have two teams tied.  If there is a 3 way tie, that is more complicating.
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Looking like the conference one and two will have an unusual number of losses. And yeah, inconsistency seems the word of the day. Be funny if, after the big scheduling change, it still came down to Dartmouth vs Harvard. I wish they would move that series back to the end of the season. That has often resulted in great drama that has come down both ways over the years. Some great drama with Penn and Dartmouth in recent years too. I enjoyed epic Rumley, Borden and Ricciardone battles. I'm told those three still keep in touch. My experience with the Ivy only goes back a decade or so, but if you told me those three and Rachel Brown are the four best pitchers in Ivy history, I wouldn't argue.
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This upcoming weekend.  Columbia should take 3 from Brown, but it is at Providence so the home team might get 1 game.   Yale's conference stats are better than Princeton, but Princeton played tough against Dartmouth.  Should be a split in Yale's favor.  Surging Penn takes on Harvard at Cambridge so Harvard should take 2.  Cornell visits Dartmouth in Hanover for a big alumni weekend with about 20 former players coming back.  Dartmouth typically loses that first game and wins the next two.  Should be a split but it will take some work to keep Cornell's bats down.  Big weekend for the leading teams but Columbia could gain a game on the leaders if they play up to their potential.  Dartmouth vs Harvard the following weekend!
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Dartmouth, Harvard and Cornell are out front. I always root for Dartmouth. A kid I know is on Harvard and I've always had a soft spot for Cornell because I liked what I heard about their previous coach. So those three out front makes me happy. All three are at .667 but it seems to me whoever has the fewest losses is, for the moment, in the lead. That would be Dartmouth and Cornell but it looks like a betting dead heat to me.
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I’m not sure why Dartmouth gets out to a slow start. They have lost the first game three series in a row. If the pitching holds up and they can swing the bats like that last Princeton game they will look really good. Cornell has had some surprises so far. They are playing well. Harvard looks like they are figuring out a few things. Another great weekend of Ivy League Softball. Hope the weather holds out.
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At this point, looks like Dartmouth Harvard series will be key. Wish it was still at the end of the season.
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Princeton, Columbia, Harvard take 3 games from Yale, Brown, and Penn.  Looks like Yale Brown and Penn will have to regroup this year.  Dartmouth on Alumni day sets a record for 4 home runs in 4 consecutive at bats (Sets Ivy League Record and tie for NCAA for most consecutive HRs). They take two from Cornell, but the 3rd game would not be played until later.  Cornell could not play Friday because of midterm exams.  Harvard is in the driver seat.  Harvard Dartmouth next weekend will reveal much as to how this might shake out.   
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I would say the team with the fewest losses is in the driver's seat?
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There was always something special about the Harvard, Dartmouth series at the end of the season. 

Go Big Green...

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Agreed.

Dartmouth beat Cornell today in the postponed third game 10-0 in five for the sweep. Whoever wins the Dartmouth Harvard series and then does what they are expected to do the rest of the way gets home field for the conference two team tournament if two teams can be called a tournament. Harvard only has three games after Dartmouth and those against last place Brown. But they are away games. Dartmouth has six games after Harvard against the bottom two teams in the conference and they are home games so call that a wash.

Dartmouth Harvard - have to win two but three would be better. If Dartmouth wins two they have a two game lead over Harvard. If Harvard wins two they both have five losses and Dartmouth is rooting for Brown. Looks like a Dartmouth Harvard series for sure. Just a question of where. Home team almost always wins this series so next weekend is big. Win at least two and then avoid a post big game let down the rest of the way.

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