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ivyleaguefan

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Thoughts on upcoming year?
Ivy_Dad_2019

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Happy New Year to all !!!

Balanced schedule this year, only 3 league games per weekend rather than four.

Predicted order of finish:

Harvard (been knocking on the door the last couple of years, this year I think they do it)

Dartmouth (one pitcher dominant, but with the new schedule, that will be less of a factor)

Princeton (still will be in the mix, nice group of talent, will miss 2016 pitcher of the year)

Brown (needs to shore up their defense, but will score many runs)

Penn (need some to come in to replace Sargent and Allen)

Columbia (Had a nice early season run last year before running out of gas)

Yale (young talent,, can they put it together?)

Cornell (need a pitcher to step up) 
gatorbob

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I haven’t read any pre-season talk yet. Each team has posted a schedule, though. Looks like another sub-.500 season for my Big Red.
http://www.cornellbigred.com/mobile/schedule.aspx?schedule=1178


Hookedonsball

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It should be different with this new format. It seems like the old North Division was always battling out until the end. Looking ahead of conference play though. Who does everyone think has the toughest preseason schedule?
ivyleaguefan

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I think Harvard clearly has the toughest non conference schedule,, followed up by Dartmouth, Princeton, and Yale in that order.

Harvard was hot early last year, but when league play opened, they stubbed their toe right away.

Since we start a couple of weeks later than other conferences, and practice time is so limited, most teams use these games to figure out what they have.  Real season starts when Ivy league play starts.

Can't wait until the weekend of 2/23 to see them start !!!! 
3leftturns

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Anyone know how to find Harvard's 2015-17 stats?
CW_Angel

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Anyone know how to find Harvard's 2015-17 stats?


2017 Season: http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/sball/2016-17/teams/harvard

2016 Season: http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/sball/2015-16/teams/harvard

2015 Season: http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/sball/2014-15/teams/harvard
3leftturns

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How did you find that....? Harvard's 'archives' only get through 2014

Thanks
3leftturns

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Harvard gets Lantz and her .952 freshman OPS back after an injury year
CW_Angel

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How did you find that....? Harvard's 'archives' only get through 2014

Thanks


Just messed around with the URL...manually changed the year and voila. Will work the same way with roster, schedule, etc.
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The 2018 Season is right around the corner, so here are my two cents (for what that’s worth) regarding the season ahead. I hope you enjoy and be curious to hear your thoughts as well.

In analyzing, I took a look first at the All Ivy Teams players from 2017 and who is returning and who is not. I also tried to delve a bit into each teams rosters to understand the make up of the teams. The wild card for me are the incoming freshman as its difficult to truly gauge what their impact will be and any injured players that are returning.

The first point which is fairly obvious is where you finished in the standings pretty much dictated how many players your team had named to the All Ivy League teams. Both Harvard and Princeton, winners of the North and South had a total of 7 players, next up was Dartmouth with 6, Penn and Yale with 5, Brown and Columbia with 4 and Cornell with 2.

The next obvious point is that all of Harvard’s All Ivy League players are returning for the 2018 season. This bodes well for their chances to return to Championship game, but let’s not forget that the North was not decided until the last weekend as both Dartmouth and Yale had a chance to take 1st place in the North division.

Dartmouth has 5 returning from last year including their No 1 pitcher (Ethridge), but they did lose two 1st Team All Ivy Players. Yale has 4 returning players including their No 1 pitcher (Casalino) and only lost one 2nd Team player. Brown has 2 of their 4 players returning including their two pitchers (Orona and Wimmer), giving them a strong presence on the mound.

Princeton lost the most in 3 of the 7 players including both of their 2 top pitchers, one of which was the Ivy Pitcher of the Year. Penn returns 3 but lost their two 1st Team All Ivy players and arguably a pitcher who could have won Pitcher of the Year had they won the south division. Columbia has all of their players returning, 3 of which were freshman last year and their No 1 Pitcher (Canby), Cornel returns their 2 players.

Based on all this here are my thoughts on the 2018 season:

Harvard – is the odds on favorite based preliminarily on the amount of returning talent. They are the most complete team across the lineup and on the mound. That being said, they will still need to earn the title as I do not see them walking away with it. But with another year under their belt the roster looks like the team to beat in 2018.

Yale – I foresee Yale as the surprise in 2018 and battle Harvard for the title, which makes the very first weekend of play real interesting as they will meet in the best of 3 series. This team has been gaining ground over the past few years being right in the mix for the North title last year. Their roster looks well balanced with talent across the board. This could very well be the year they make it happen.

Brown – They will be right in the mix as they are strong in the circle and return many. This mound presence will keep games close allowing them to win tight battles and the 3 game format bodes well for them as well. Their offense and producing runs will be their key

Princeton – Appears to have lost too much on the mound to be real competitive this year. There is no question they will be potent offensively as they return most position players. They will need for one of their pitchers to take a huge step forward in order for them to keep their team in games. To win, they will need to outscore their opponents but we know that Pitching usually wins championships.

Dartmouth – Will need their No 1 to again carry most of the Pitching duties, although this will be difficult throughout the longer Ivy League season. They will need another arm to step up as well as their returning position players to produce offensively. I will admit this team is a tough read, they could finish anywhere from 2nd to 6th in the league, it will all depend on how quickly their young core of 8 Sophomores and 6 Freshman to develop.

Columbia – Last year they were the talk of the Ivy leagues after the first weekend of Ivy play where they surprisingly took all games against Dartmouth and Harvard. They unfortunately were not able to surprise anyone else after this weekend going a combined 3 and 13 to finish out Ivy league play. They have a young core in with a strong sophomore class but will need help from the other classes to have an impact.

Penn – Also appears not to have enough to be a true contender. Offensively they look like they could be potent, but the big question for them as well will be on in the circle. Can their senior hurler step up and be a force on the mound and/or can one of their 3 Freshman pitchers have a large impact?  To many questions for Penn to really make any sort of run this year for the Ivy league title this year.

Cornell – Is clearly in another rebuild year. After the retirement of Coach Blood, they have yet to find their identify. It appears that they are several years away from getting back into the thick of things in Ivy League play.

No matter the outcome, it an absolute blessing to us all that we are here discussing all this. Good Luck to all for a fantastic 2018 Season! 

Ivy_Dad_2019

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wow, obviously spent some time, and I agree with you on most points

I do think however Princeton will still be in top 2 battling it out.

Not sold on Yale

Brown will score runs, need to catch the balls hit to them

should be a tight race until the last weekend.
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Thank you FP Junkie. You really took the time to analyze the teams fairly. After looking at the teams early travel schedule and comparing last years RPI I would agree that Harvard is playing a strong three weekend schedule. I think Dartmouth also appears to load up on top fifty teams. The good thing about the early season warm weather travel games should give everyone a possible glimpse of league play. Although once League play starts it always seems to come down to some exciting games. I don’t believe that any team will be completely dominant. I do believe that opening up the league with no divisions could see two (old north) teams in the finals. But never count out the (old south) teams.
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After reading the post by Ivyleaguefan regarding who has the hardest non conference schedule, I decided to take a look into it further. To evaluate, I decided to use the final 2017 RPI Rankings for each team. Although this is not perfect, it gives us an indication of where teams will somewhere start the 2018 season.

For each school, I have listed their opponents that finished with a Top 100 2017 RPI final ranking (in brackets). I will use that to base my analysis off of for who has the harder non conference schedule for 2018.

Dartmouth
- Tusa (25)
- Texas St (29) 
- Arkansas (35) - plays them twice
- FAU (57)
- Houston (79) - plays them twice
 
Columbia
- Tulsa (25)
- Texas St (29) - plays them twice
- Cal St. Fullerton (47)
- FAU (57)
- Boise St (87)

Yale
- Utah (16)
- Syracuse (72) - plays them twice
- Lehigh (76)
- Houston (79)
- Kent St (80)

Harvard
- Kentucky (18)
- North Carolina (32)
- Louisville (60)
- FGCU (77)
- Elon (98)

Princeton
- USF (50)
- UCF (63)
- Grand Canyon (73) - plays them twice
- FGCU (77)
- Elon (98)

UPenn
- Florida St (8)
- USF (50)
- Central Michigan (54)

Cornell & Brown - plays nobody in the top 100

Based on each teams schedule, I give Dartmouth the nod for having the hardest non league schedule with 7 games against RPI Top 100 teams followed closely behind by Columbia, who for the most part plays an identical schedule with the only accepting of one less game against a Top 100 team.

Next is a toss up between Harvard and Yale with Harvard playing 5 games with a few against teams with a higher RPI but Yale playing one more against a Top 100 teams. So take you pick!

Princeton follows right behind with 6 games against Top 100 but the hardest being UCF at No. 50. UPenn has the distinction of playing the highest ranked team in Florida St at No. 8 but only has two other ranked opponents. Both Cornell and Brown are playing nobody in the top 100, but I give Cornell the harder of the two with 3 in the top 150 while Brown only plays one in the Top 150.
ivyleaguefan

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Looking at the first weekend results,,, jealous !!!

10 days away to our first pitch

Softballjunkie223

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Why does the season start later than the rest?
ivyleaguefan

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I would presume to focus on academics. 

The first "team" practice is always February 1.  Given that, I guess the league feels that they need some time to get ready.

It's a little different/ tougher being an athlete at these schools, but as a parent, I'm hoping the work ethic they develop, and the degree that they earn will set them up going forward in life. 
FPJunkie

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Although Ivy League Schools are classified by the NCAA as a D1 conference and therefore the schools are governed by the standard D1 rules, the Ivy League restricts them a bit further in the start of practice, first contests dates and overall games that are allowed to be played. This is primarily based on that fact that the Ivy League wants players to focus primarily on Academics first and foremost and Athletics secondarily.

NCAA states that teams can start practicing in early January, but the Ivy League restrict that further to a Feb 1st first practice date. as for games to be played, I believe the number for D1 is no more then 58 in a regular season (not including playoffs) where as Ivy's are limited to (I believe) no more then 48 (not including playoffs).

As for the dates of first games, this too is pushed back towards the end of February since their first practice date is not until Feb 1.
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http://ivyleague.com/news/2018/2/15/princeton-selected-to-three-peat-in-softball-preseason-poll.aspx

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I believe the preseason Ivy League Poll is a little closer than the numbers indicate. But Preseason polls are just that. Preseason. Looking From the outside. I believe that Dartmouth has a little chip on their shoulder. Things didn’t go well for them last year. They have something to prove. I think the sports writers have written them off to soon.
AustinSoftball

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The move from two two weekends against the opposing division to four games against teams in your division, certainly reduces travel time during the first four weeks in warming up for your division.  Those four game tourneys were brutal for teams without two solid pitchers.  One truly dominant pitcher, such as a Rumley, could pitch most of three games a weekend.  

The three game for each team make the season longer and that affects the students on the quarter system more than the semester system because they will be playing during the winter quarter finals.  

The polls in Ivy are pure hunches because you never know who has joined the team as freshman and who has checked out because of other interests (academic or otherwise).  Playing the tough competition before Ivy helps a lot and the teams that have dialed down their competition are at a disadvantage.  Penn is the example here in the recent past.  Dartmouth's success in recent years has built upon early success in wins against teams like Auburn, Maryland, UCSB, Stanford, FAU.  That's always been Harvard's formula.  

I thought the Ivy League was going to go to a tourney format with several teams, but I guess they decided to have the top two play.  Home field advantage is important in the final.  Cornell has to go South and West for players. Coach Blood recruited a very specific type of player and he ignored most of the winning softball select teams.  It takes a lot of effort to gain those contacts so those teams send you their smart solid players.  Harvard has those contacts.  Princeton picked them up with their coach.  And you see the results in a few years.  

Harvard, Dartmouth, and Princeton will come out tough.  Yale is very bold this year in their talk and they will need to come out strong against one of the toughest teams. Columbia made big strides last year.  Hard to know about Brown.  They hang tight but end up losing games they should have won.  Easy preseason hurts them.  Penn could not deal with Princeton in its division so it is helped by this format, but I doubt they will end up on the mix.
Ivy_Dad_2019

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good analysis Austin.

I love the new format for another reason.   We drive to the games, and that long Sunday night drive home was brutal.  To get a couple of hours start on that is going to be great !!!!

First pitch in two days.

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss

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How about some first weekend predictions:

Brown: Stetson Tournament
Columbia: FAU Tournament
Dartmouth : FAU Tournament
Harvard: Orlando, Citrus Classic
Yale: University of Houston Tournament

Cornell, Penn, and Princeton stay home
Ivy_Dad_2019

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Can't really predict how each team will look,, but I'll take a shot at the team I know the best.

Brown's five games are against teams that they can play with. (Colgate, Stetson, Mt. St Mary's)

If they play well and up to their potential,, four wins out of five games would not surprise me.  That being said, this team needs to learn how to win and close out games.  I am hoping that a weaker non conference schedule allows them to get some momentum for Ivy League play.  

Too many games lost in the past couple of seasons where the team fell apart and could not make a play.

Either way.. weather is high of 81, low of 60, and all sun.  Much better than what I normally have to deal with !!!!!
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No predictions here. Just glad to see the season start for all these very talented women. I’ll be ready to regroup after this weekend and get those thoughts from everyone interested in Ivy League Softball!!!!
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Brown scored some runs,, competed well in first 3 games....

Still need to learn how to win the tight games as they lost in ITB and walk off fashion.

Harvard looked good.

Anyone else?
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Columbia and Dartmouth played the same teams --

Columbia put 15 runs on the board, gave up 33.
Dartmouth put up 2 runs, gave up 27.

Columbia seems to be swinging the bat!
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I'm not sure why people continue to drink the Dartmouth kool-aid. They have progressively gotten worse since Hanson left.
Hookedonsball

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Dartmouth did struggle last year no doubt. Someone told me that a pretty good Sophomore pitcher quit leaving them with a Junior pitcher and a Freshman. He told me that the first tournament last year they were down 7-5 against the Rajun Cajuns before they put in the Freshman. They also were in a 3-3 tie with Maryland with runners on 2nd and 3rd before the Maryland coach called timeout in a drop dead game due to travel conflicts. I thought those tactics went away with travel softball. So yes they have struggled playing teams like Oklahoma, UCLA, Ragin Cajuns, splitting with Oklahoma State while Iowa loses to Eastern (whoever). What conference are Iowa and Maryland in?
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If record losing to good teams was the ranking criteria, Stanford was top 10 last 3 years.
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