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mikec

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DONALD J. TRUMP’S VISION

  • Rewriting the tax code to allow working parents to deduct from their income taxes child care expenses for up to four children and elderly dependents.
  • Allow parents to enroll in tax-free dependent care savings accounts for their children or elderly relatives.
  • Provide low-income households an Expanded Earned Income Tax Credit – in the form a Childcare rebate – and a matching $500 contribution for their savings accounts.
  • Creating a new, dynamic market for family-based and community-based solutions.
  • Incentivizing employers to provide childcare at the workplace.
  • Provide 6 weeks of paid leave to new mothers before returning to work.
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Paid leave, tax credits, more tax credits, direct grants - all adds up to unfunded mandates, but who's counting.
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Paid leave, tax credits, more tax credits, direct grants - all adds up to unfunded mandates, but who's counting.

duh unfunded, trump will never win, republicans are always going to loose.  drump orange hair, reeeeeehh, face in cheetos. wrong on so many counts, you think you would tire of it.  .  

Funded by unemployment benefits back to pre obama levels. 
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Tax breaks are always good...........

There you go blue.  you get it.  Letting working poor keep more of their income to take care of their kids.  

Not sure how any one can say they are conservative and not be for tax breaks for working poor that promotes strengthen of families.  

All funded by pushing deadbeats off their a55es and get them to work. 
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Don't worry Mike - this is probably like the promise to go after Hillary. Just bluster to chum up the low info's to get elected.
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I wonder where unemployment funding comes from?

I guess that must be free money that materializes from the money tree. 

trumpies bashed Ryan incessantly for increasing gov't, and unfunded mandates.  When the lovely Ivanka does it, it's all good, because she can fill out a sweater.
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Don't worry Mike - this is probably like the promise to go after Hillary. Just bluster to chum up the low info's to get elected.

Or like the bluster that got him elected.  Or like the bluster that drumpf was crazy for bringing up strong stances on immigration. Or like the bluster that has the Senate and House solidly in Republican hands.  Or like the bluster on the Carrier deal for 1000 jobs. or like the bluster of the Ford deals.  Or like the bluster that has the entire nation talking about getting back to work.  Or like the bluster about the Softbank/Sprint guy going to invest 50 Billion and create 50,000 jobs.  Or like the US Steal close to 10,000 jobs. 

Or how about this one.  CNBC survey has been done for years.  They just saw a 17 percent jump, from 25% to 42% in the number of people that believe the economy is going to improve in the next year. 

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/09/optimism-on-economy-stocks-surges-since-trump-election-cnbc-survey.html

Or like the bluster about how we are going to be winning so much that we will tire of winning (we won't). 
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I wonder where unemployment funding comes from?

I guess that must be free money that materializes from the money tree. 

trumpies bashed Ryan incessantly for increasing gov't, and unfunded mandates.  When the lovely Ivanka does it, it's all good, because she can fill out a sweater.


See again. that is where you are missing it.  It is not unfunded.  It is funded by reducing payouts to have people sit at home.

Tax Credits are reductions in taxes.  You get that part, correct?

I think most of the time your antitrump stances come off more as confusion.  Maybe you are just not understanding things.
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Channeling my inner Dewey - you haven't been here long enough to talk to anyone like that.  Shut your piehole if you're going to try to tell someone else what to do.


You just showed your lunacy b-head. It makes no difference how many posts or when anyone joined a board as per they've not 'been here long enough'. Now you're telling me to be quiet, but I can't tell you? How's this for informing you what you should do -> Would you prefer to speak to me in that tone to my face? 
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To: All lovers of Hitlary and the Dumbocrat party.
 
The election is over so quit biatching and crying. My party won, yours lost. I'll hug my elephant and you kiss your ass. [tongue]
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I wonder where unemployment funding comes from?

I guess that must be free money that materializes from the money tree. 

trumpies bashed Ryan incessantly for increasing gov't, and unfunded mandates.  When the lovely Ivanka does it, it's all good, because she can fill out a sweater.



No question she has a superb body that, among other things can 'fill out a sweater'. You still buying panty liners?
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You just showed your lunacy b-head. It makes no difference how many posts or when anyone joined a board as per they've not 'been here long enough'. Now you're telling me to be quiet, but I can't tell you? How's this for informing you what you should do -> Would you prefer to speak to me in that tone to my face? 


Telling Mike to return to softball was an a$$hole move.  Whether or not I would say it to your face is moot.
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Or like the bluster that got him elected.  Exactly what it was, bluster for the masses to get him elected Or like the bluster that drumpf was crazy for bringing up strong stances on immigration. That he will not follow through on Or like the bluster that has the Senate and House solidly in Republican hands.  They already were, with larger majorities  Or like the bluster on the Carrier deal for 1000 jobs  He didn't save 1,000 jobs. or like the bluster of the Ford deals  had no impact.  Or like the bluster that has the entire nation talking about getting back to work Sources?.  Or like the bluster about the Softbank/Sprint guy going to invest 50 Billion and create 50,000 jobs  We will see if it happens.  Or like the US Steal close to 10,000 jobs Sources. 

Or how about this one.  CNBC survey has been done for years.  They just saw a 17 percent jump, from 25% to 42% in the number of people that believe the economy is going to improve in the next year. More and more like Dewey everyday - polls don't actually mean things are going to happen

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/09/optimism-on-economy-stocks-surges-since-trump-election-cnbc-survey.html

Or like the bluster about how we are going to be winning so much that we will tire of winning (we won't).   Don't think anyone is tired of it yet.





Before you and team CJ get all hot and bothered, I am glad he won and the Clinton's are done.  His cabinet choices are great, and as long as Rudy isn't SOS, it will be one of the best assembled.  Let's just hope he follows through on most of what he ran on.  It's ok to keep watch over our political leaders and even disagree with them from time to time.
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You just showed your lunacy b-head. It makes no difference how many posts or when anyone joined a board as per they've not 'been here long enough'. Now you're telling me to be quiet, but I can't tell you? How's this for informing you what you should do -> Would you prefer to speak to me in that tone to my face? 


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I think most of the time your antitrump stances come off more as confusion.  Maybe you are just not understanding things.


I'm not confused. 

You say the money comes from people not staying at home.  People on paid maternity leave are leaving jobs to stay home.

Actually, you're right, that is confusing.

I have not seen, though I will admit maybe there is a plan, anything that requires work to receive welfare. 
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dude, or dudette, whichever is appropriate:

you have 3 post in this thread, and all of them are pretty lame insults. 

You wanna have debates, that's fine.  You wanna just show up and be an ahole, go right ahead, just don't expect any replies.

If it makes you feel better, and maybe work some unresolved aggressions, then knock yourself out. 




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The election is over so quit biatching and crying. My party won, yours lost. I'll hug my elephant and you kiss your ass. [tongue]
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While it's normally true that post count isn't a prerequisite to be taken seriously, it helps if you say something serious to earn a little credibility.

Saying stuff like this to folks who have been here awhile isn't really a good credibility builder.

Carry on.


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You just showed your lunacy b-head. It makes no difference how many posts or when anyone joined a board as per they've not 'been here long enough'. Now you're telling me to be quiet, but I can't tell you? How's this for informing you what you should do -> Would you prefer to speak to me in that tone to my face? 
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I'm not confused. 

You say the money comes from people not staying at home.  People on paid maternity leave are leaving jobs to stay home.

Actually, you're right, that is confusing.

I have not seen, though I will admit maybe there is a plan, anything that requires work to receive welfare. 

ah, i see how you are getting confused.  

Unemployment is where someone is no longer employed.  They no longer have a job.  Unemployment payments are paying people to not have a job.

Maternety leave is when someone has a job.  They keep their job.   They just go home and have a baby.  Just cause they had a baby does not mean they lost their job.   When they are done leave they go back to their job. 

I slowed things down for you a bit and did some highlighting of the operative words. 

Make more sense now?
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While it's normally true that post count isn't a prerequisite to be taken seriously, it helps if you say something serious to earn a little credibility.

Saying stuff like this to folks who have been here awhile isn't really a good credibility builder.

Carry on.






Neither is backing someone that puts their head in a bowl of flamin cheetos.   The person that guaranteed he would leave the United States if Trump were elected, yet he remains. 

How long are you and Pabar keep up the Dewey pretend police act?  Are you going all the way to Russian hackers and young boy investigative journalist teams?
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Before you and team CJ get all hot and bothered, I am glad he won and the Clinton's are done.  His cabinet choices are great, and as long as Rudy isn't SOS, it will be one of the best assembled.  Let's just hope he follows through on most of what he ran on.  It's ok to keep watch over our political leaders and even disagree with them from time to time.

Hehe.  I like it when you nit pick my numbers. 
Trumps winning list grows and grows.  He is winning on conservative values.  And nevertrumpers butt hurtedness looks more and more goofy.

Like someone recently said "It's a new dawn in America ".  Enjoy it a little.
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OK, you wanna be an ass, that's fine.

Unemployed people aren't working, and are getting paid.

Maternity leave is proposed by miss Angel Pants to be paid by the gov't.  trump's website says 6 weeks, she said 6 months.

So, you are paying people not to work.  Then, you pay more people not to work.  Then, you give people tax credits for whatever other stuff.

I see money spent, money spent, money spent.

Why can't you admit that miss liberal Beauty Queen is a liberal, and is proposing a program that is a liberal dream program?

How it gets paid for is evidently immaterial, as long as we create a new giveaway to the folks we want to have the giveaway.



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ah, i see how you are getting confused.  

Unemployment is where someone is no longer employed.  They no longer have a job.  Unemployment payments are paying people to not have a job.

Maternety leave is when someone has a job.  They keep their job.   They just go home and have a baby.  Just cause they had a baby does not mean they lost their job.   When they are done leave they go back to their job. 

I slowed things down for you a bit and did some highlighting of the operative words. 

Make more sense now?
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I don't think anyone would be against paid family leave if a company wanted to do it, but it shouldn't be forced on companies by the federal government.

Does anyone know if Trump offers his employees paid leave?  Does Ivanka at the factories that make her clothes?
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Neither is backing someone that puts their head in a bowl of flamin cheetos.   The person that guaranteed he would leave the United States if Trump were elected, yet he remains. 

How long are you and Pabar keep up the Dewey pretend police act?  Are you going all the way to Russian hackers and young boy investigative journalist teams?


First, I am no Glen Beck fan, if that's who you mean.  I think he's as fake as the rest of them.  I have no idea who your second guy is.

As far as the Dewey police act, why don't you reread my and mr blowhard's posts.  I said if you wanna talk, then let's talk.  You wanna be a toughguy and scream names, don't expect much.

Well, expect maybe you and Voldemortblue jumping in to say what a great guy he is because he has some tough guy trump talk.
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I guess with Dewey being gone someone needs to step into Dewsters shoes.


You're well on your way little fella - just keep doing what you're doing.
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I expect Dewey, DC, Slapper, et al are enjoying this...

When does Friday fun begin...
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I expect Dewey, DC, Slapper, et al are enjoying this...

When does Friday fun begin...



Stopping at the "Special" store on the way home. Won't catch me ill prepared again!
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OK, you wanna be an ass, that's fine.

Unemployed people aren't working, and are getting paid.

Maternity leave is proposed by miss Angel Pants to be paid by the gov't.  trump's website says 6 weeks, she said 6 months.

So, you are paying people not to work.  Then, you pay more people not to work.  Then, you give people tax credits for whatever other stuff.

I see money spent, money spent, money spent.

Why can't you admit that miss liberal Beauty Queen is a liberal, and is proposing a program that is a liberal dream program?

How it gets paid for is evidently immaterial, as long as we create a new giveaway to the folks we want to have the giveaway.




ass, hmm.  I thought you guys were jumping on blue for calling people unpatriotic, or other things just cause they disagree.  How is what you are doing any different.

I think the proposal is for 6 weeks, the 6 months was a misspeak.  I know you have a hard time with being very literal around everything Trump, making you unable to discern what makes sense. 

I see tax credits, tax credits, tax credits and a side helping of support for working families. 

I do not mind calling something liberal even if Trump proposes it, if it is liberal.  This plan is really right out of the right-wing think tanks. 

For instances some of his trade stances.
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Stopping at the "Special" store on the way home. Won't catch me ill prepared again!

haha, yeah you missed a good time the last time.
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However, some seem to be obsessed with his daughter, as though her being relatively attractive somehow adds to trump's credibility.

Therefore, I thought that I would point out that she is a liberal Democrat, trying to get dad to adopt her liberal Democrat proposals.  He adopted at least one during the campaign.

She is also a hypocrite, in that all of her production is off-shored.

trumpies can't admit that the 1st daughter that they are obsessed with is a liberal.


I thought Early and I were more transparent. I don't try to seem to be obsessed with Ivanka, I want you to know I am obsessed with her. Became a big fan during the Apprentice, before she was married. I don't want to lust on her and really don't want to tap her, its just that I would if she wanted.

She may move some product manufacturing back to USA, he's not even in office yet and some of you are demanding more from Trump than you ever did from curious George. Chill out and give him and her a year or two. You gave obummer 8 years to phuck things up. He was elected 1 month ago, sheesh.

Day care credits for working parents is not a bad idea. Cutting unemployment benefits to 4 weeks would make up the difference. I think uwa was saying that
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I have not seen any proposals to cut unemployment benefits 4 weeks, but maybe I've missed that.

I am not demanding more of trump than Obama.  I think you know I've been a harsh Obama critic.  I think maybe you've also missed where I said that, so far, trump has done almost everything right since the election.

Ivanka should not be making policy, and be elevated to anything lofty policy wise.  Lust after her if you will.
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