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mikec

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Been traveling again all day.  Listed to Levin for a bit, and he was apoplectic over trump's treatment of Israel.

Evidently, McMaster, Tillerson, and Spicer were tripping all over themselves relative to Israel.

I heard a few clips, and I heard:
- western wall may not be part of Jerusalem.  That is a policy issue not yet decided
- no embassy for US in Jerusalem
- US is still sorting out Israel/Palestinian policies

Levin was losing his mind.  Do these issues matter anymore?  Is this fake news also? 
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Yes those issues matter still, to the people who they always mattered to, the Jews. To the vast majority of non-jewish Americans, they don't matter. 

There is further bad news for the State of Israel. As the American Empire continues down the backside of Hubbert's peak, and economic contractions become more regular and painful, the wealth pump to the USA will begin to dry up. When that happens, the State of Israel will lose their subsidies (economic and military) from us, which is the only thing that allows them to remain viable. Israel will not survive the American Empire collapse.  

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mikec

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Only the Jews care - got it.
uwApoligist

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Simple Israel matters to the US.  

Israeli issues are not really that big of a play in the US.  Most people do not know enough about West Bank or Gaza or an US embassy in Jerusalem.

Still Isreal as a strategic partner in the middle east remains important.  Being the way odummer was towards the Isreali's made zero sense for the American people.  It worked counter to our goals.  

Still does not mean, that therefore, we have to go 100% hogwild on every Isreali issue those guys bring up.  

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bluedog

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Mike, people younger than us don't even know what a Jewish person is.........
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Mike, people younger than us don't even know what a Jewish person is.........


Thanks man.  I already feel like I'm sitting around waiting for the Reaper, now this.
bluedog

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Birthdays are killers.........
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