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GrizzlyFan

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According to Obama, if we could just create jobs in the middle east, ISIS would stop cutting off peoples heads and burning people alive. What an idiot.
Seems at least on ISIS murderer came from a well to do family.

LONDON (Reuters) - The "Jihadi John" killer who has featured in several Islamic State beheading videos is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a middle class family who grew up in London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming, the Washington Post newspaper said.

In videos released by Islamic State (IS), the masked, black-clad militant brandishing a knife and speaking with an English accent appears to have carried out the beheadings of hostages including Americans and Britons.

The Washington Post said Emwazi was believed to have traveled to Syria around 2012 and to have later joined IS.

"His real name, according to friends and others familiar with his case, is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a well-to-do family who grew up in West London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming," the Post said.


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I'm not really so sure why this guy's identity is so important, unless his family is to be kidnapped, their property seized, and held for ransom.

It's such big news today that they sleuthed out the guy's ID - big deal. 

Like I said, if his family shows up in a video in orange jump suits until he turns himself in, then maybe it's important. 
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A while back I related the story of when a group of terrorists kidnapped some Russians and held them for ransom pending execution. The Russian FSB in turn went and kidnapped all the family members of the terrorists and killed them. Notice how Russians aren't targeted any more?

If this character were Russian, his family would be imprusoned and probably executed. Instead, the British media make him out to be some sort of celebrity anti-hero, virtually ensuring others will follow in his footsteps. This is no small issue, not just in the UK but everywhere, as it aids ISIS and other terrorists groups in recruiting. This is "journalism" at it's most irresponsible.


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I'm not really so sure why this guy's identity is so important, unless his family is to be kidnapped, their property seized, and held for ransom.

It's such big news today that they sleuthed out the guy's ID - big deal. 

Like I said, if his family shows up in a video in orange jump suits until he turns himself in, then maybe it's important. 


It's important mike because it directly contradicts the official government assumption that all these ISIS fighters need is jobs. He was a college graduate WITH a job when he converted to a cult of death. his identity is very important just as is the identity of any murderer. Did someone login under your username?

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KIR - I think it's being overhyped.  I think they are turning him into some sort of hero by doing so.

I guess my thing is they are crowing about finding his identity like it's some sort of accomplishment.  Meanwhile, they have no idea where is, and nothing is stopping him from continuing to murder people.

It's like - HaHa - we know who you are!  So what?  Knowing who he is isn't doing anything to stop ISIS.  It doesn't bring justice to the families of those he murdered.

It looks weak to me to trumpet this as some sort of exciting news, while ISIS, and this guy in particular, still do anything they want.  It's like they can't hurt ISIS, so they publish this guy's identity as though it's some sort of major feat.

I suspect his family will now be ostracized in London - maybe that's the goal, I don't know.  If it is, and his family suffers socially or financially for his deeds, then maybe that is a deterrent for future wannabe's to not join ISIS.

Like I said, if that's the goal, then so be it.

I may be wrong, I just think this is being made into more than it is.
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This can go here, although it might also fit well in the ISIS and -notably - the immigration threads.

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The Failure of Multiculturalism
Community Versus Society in Europe

(It's a a subscription article, but you can get the gist from the first few paragraphs in the link.)

http://m.foreignaffairs.com/articles/143048/kenan-malik/the-failure-of-multiculturalism

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Multicultural policies accept that societies are diverse, yet they implicitly assume that such diversity ends at the edges of minority communities. By forcing people into ethnic and cultural boxes, they help create the very divisions they were meant to manage.

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But the truth about multiculturalism is far more complex than either side will allow, and the debate about it has often devolved into sophistry. Multiculturalism has become a proxy for other social and political issues: immigration, identity, political disenchantment, working-class decline. Different countries, moreover, have followed distinct paths. The United Kingdom has sought to give various ethnic communities an equal stake in the political system. Germany has encouraged immigrants to pursue separate lives in lieu of granting them citizenship. And France has rejected multicultural policies in favor of assimilationist ones. The specific outcomes have also varied: in the United Kingdom, there has been communal violence; in Germany, Turkish communities have drifted further from mainstream society; and in France, the relationship between the authorities and North African communities has become highly charged. But everywhere, the overarching consequences have been the same: fragmented societies, alienated minorities, and resentful citizenries.


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KIR - I think it's being overhyped.  I think they are turning him into some sort of hero by doing so.

I may be wrong, I just think this is being made into more than it is.


It wasn't even through a 24 hour news cycle when you stated that.  Let the word get out, maybe Trump or the Kochs'can offer a million [or ten] dollar reward and get the bastard

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FIB what the Russian did was round up the kidnappers  family then cut off a finger and sent it to the kidnappers. Sometimes an ear with a earring the kidnappers gave to their mothers. That got their attention fast.
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WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAUGHTER AHEAD

 


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lol reading the posts in this thread between you and mike. He was already salty in early 2015.
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He sure was.  And totally misses things. 
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they found and killed the due, which, lol, was the original point, hahah, lol, lol
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BTW - Marie Harf, the original "give me jobs" idiot, now works at Fox News.  Go figure.
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they found and killed the due, which, lol, was the original point, hahah, lol, lol

hahaha lol indeed.  They did 'identify' then find and kill him.  Identify being a key initial first step.

Also you seem to gloss over there is zero legal basis for jailing that mans family.  Not in any modern common law structure.   So you losing your mind over the fact they are not jailing his family is ludicrous. 

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You thinking that's what I did is hilarious.

Find another lie.


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hahaha lol indeed.  They did 'identify' then find and kill him.  Identify being a key initial first step.

Also you seem to gloss over there is zero legal basis for jailing that mans family.  Not in any modern common law structure.   So you losing your mind over the fact they are not jailing his family is ludicrous. 
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hahaha lol indeed.  They did 'identify' then find and kill him.  Identify being a key initial first step.

Also you seem to gloss over there is zero legal basis for jailing that mans family.  Not in any modern common law structure.   So you losing your mind over the fact they are not jailing his family is ludicrous. 


He may have gotten that idea from woody, who promoted the idea a few times [wink]

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I wouldn't jail them, I would annihilate them as well. They understand brute force, and the assured death of all that they love.
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“The Democratic Party will win again if we move from the left. We are a big tent party and [we should] not listen to Michael Moore, ever,” she said.
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