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bluedog

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.......they even had to get their own cell phones.


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.......they even had to get their own cell phones.


My grandson & his wife would work 2-3 jobs each before they would take freebies [ he is a good man ]
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This whole bill smells of politics on both sides, interested in using it to get votes or get re-elected.
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This whole bill smells of politics on both sides, interested in using it to get votes or get re-elected.


well dewey wants them all legalized so he can sleep better at night.  he takes in stray cats also

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you know that even if you make the south of the border illegals, legal, they will still continue to work for cash only,spend their dollars in Mexico, and not pay any taxes.
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And Rubio's commercials say the bill by the 8 has security of border #1 & he tells those on Uni-Vision, legalization first, border security & path to citizenship.....man speaks with forked tongue. Somehow, I thought this guy was different pretty much down to Rand Paul for me now.
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True...most illegals will still work for cash under the table if made legal and would not pay income tax (same as many American citizens who are bartenders, adult entertainment, babysitters, farm labor, waitresses, housekeeping/cleaning, pool cleaning, landscaping, and contactors who don't claim every job income or work on the side of their company for cash...especially since those are the jobs they are doing for cash).
But most all of them spend their money in America. Sure some send money home but most spend their money in America and do not risk crossing the border and getting back into America again afterwards after they spent time, money and effort to sneak. They make their home in America, establish neighborhoods and shopping areas that are Mexican, wave their mexico flag and speak mexican Spanish instead of English, work under the table, get government medical and education paid, get food stamps, etc......they are home. There is nothing to go back to. They make where they live in America a version of mexico.

The argument Rubio and others have made is that the illegals spend their money in America and help the economy. My counter is so do prostitutes, drug dealers, and criminals.
The drug dealer buys cars, his drug sellers spend their money on expensive sports shoes, cars, jewelry, alcohol, music, high end electronics, firearms, and nights clubbing.
And of course most anyone living in a country getting an income is paying for the place they live in, food, utilities, gas for vehicle, etc..so most income if not all will be spent in country you live in.
Spending money doesn't mean they pay taxes and doesn't mean they help build up the community and strengthen America.

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If Rubio thinks they spend all their money in America then he hasn't been to SoCal where almost every block in Mexican & Latino neighborhoods has at least one "Enviar Dinero" shop that sends money south.
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GOP: ‘We Support Our Nation’s 11 Million Latino Criminals’
'These Lawbreakers Are Part Of Our Country’s Rich Tapestry'

WASHINGTON—As the debate over immigration reform continues in Congress, members of the Republican Party on Tuesday voiced their unequivocal support for the nation’s “more than 11 million Latino criminals,” emphasizing that much of the foundation of American society rests on these hardworking Hispanic lawbreakers.

“Today, as we consider these crucial changes to our country’s immigration laws, let us once again reiterate our party’s tremendous respect and advocation for the legions of dedicated and persevering Latino wrongdoers who are such an important part of this country,” said Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), speaking on behalf of a group of GOP lawmakers who have pledged their support of the estimated 11 million “flagrant and obtrusive offenders of the law.” “And so I would like these utterly felonious men and women to know that the Republican Party respects you and your corrupt, blatantly illegal interests. We stand with you, wanton transgressors.”

“After all, you and your lawbreaking ilk make up a vital part of our nation’s rich tapestry,” McConnell added.

Full story at http://www.theonion.com/articles/gop-we-support-our-nations-11-million-latino-crimi,32784/

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A procedural vote to begin formal debate on the bill was approved 82-15 on a bipartisan vote.
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Geez, we're linking to routine votes now? Lol

Any chance you are one of the illegals looking for amnesty?

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wonder if any of you socal people have driven south on hiway 5 to mexico.
every saturday the traffic south at 4 AM is so crowded by mexicans going to their country.
also most illegals live in an apt. with 2 or 3 families.
years ago the gardening and newspaper distribution was done by HS students, but now it's all done by mexicans, because they are paid less as they are paid cash.
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Hammer-

Are you and Reggie White acquainted?

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No per favor
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Rubio is a fool.....Illegal immigrants send as much money as they can back home....I'm around hundreds of illegals daily and I see 'em do it....They keep enough to eat, pay for their phone minutes and they keep some cash in their wallet in case they get arrested for some reason....The rest gets wired home.....
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Rubio is out, Christie is out, Bachmann is out.  It's becoming quite clear I'm in here conversing with the next new group of "Paul for President" followers.  Could this group get any further than the last group?  Moderate Republicans across this Country must be living on antacids. 
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The only problem I have with a ticket of Paul, and Cruz, is they will be fighting the Dems, the RINOS, and the press at the same time. Still, that would be my vote at this time. Time to take a stand. If the NE GOP places a New Jersey Liberal, and or a Florida RINO on the ticket, the Dems win with a battered Hillary being preferred by a Liberal Media. Time to say piss off, and run some real Conservative, Constitutionalists against this festered mess, that is both political parties.
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We are dealing with HUGE numbers here and nation wide. Arizona, texas and California with bulk and Alabama, Utah, etc. getting their share.
There are over 11 million illegals and not even 1 million of them are going back to mexico on weekends or sending money home via western union--they are here and anchor in to stay.
Some sending money is so those family members can pay to be smuggled in via van etc.....or for the old folks who refuse to leave mexico that they send money to while they work under the table and live in America.

And I agree with what Hammer said. Back in the day high school kids were mowing lawns and doing landscaping and they had moving and housecleaning services run by college kids....now those jobs are done by illegals as well as some legal immigrants. Any unskilled labor they will do for half the cost of paying a us citizen.
I was aggitated when I wanted to transfer when I was in los angeles many years ago but couldn't because my Spanish was not good enough at the time. Many ambulance runs were for people that only spoke Spanish and you needed good English and Spanish. Gee...need to speak Spanish to have a job in America because the people you rescue and aid don't speak English (or want to learn it). If you go to a country to live learn the language...or at least try and pick up the basics.

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We have been overrun in the border states. The rest of the nation says it is a heart tugging thing. BS, I say we move the 10 million illegals in Texas into their neighborhoods. How would that work out for union heavy states??
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http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/061813-660480-senate-rejects-fence-promised-seven-years-ago.htm?p=full
The bill is now becoming a joke, the Senate is a JOKE......why would I trust them?
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It isnt about the fence.  Its about the politics and keeping this a nice divisive issue to keep the mexican vote for the next election.
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it is interesting how the minorities in  this country in reality run the  show.
it is their vote that decides who will run the show. the majority always even each other out.
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Looks like the immigration bill wil be a real bamboozle - for workers, that is. But a bonanza for investors. The poor and the middle class will be hurt, the rich will get richer. This according to the CBO:

"CBO says immigration bill aids investors, not wage earners"

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/20/cbo-says-immigration-bill-aids-investors-not-wage-earners/#ixzz2WnHb92Jw

This makes sense. A large pool of new labor will drive wages down which will make companies more profitable. If Romney had been elected and was pushing this the Dems would be up in arms. But since its Obama screwing the poor and middle class, it's a major achievement.

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A pool of workers that are exempt from mandated obamanocare.  They will cut in line and get preferred hiring before American citizens
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They're exempt from Obamacare? Wow.
Grab your ankles America, and spread 'em wide. The Dems are in town.

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Spread 'em or spread me?  I think both are applicable
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WASHINGTON—U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, issued the following statement after tonight’s vote:
 
“The sponsors of the Corker-Hoeven substitute fell short of the votes they expected tonight to advance what they had erroneously billed to other Senators as a strong border security amendment. Failure to capture the votes they anticipated for this motion demonstrates the building unease this 1,200-page legislative monstrosity has created. I expect that unease will increase as Senators learn more about what’s really inside this proposal.
 
The Gang of Eight and their allies revealed their true tactics tonight. They shut down debate and blocked amendments to a 1,200-page immigration bill that no one has read. It was anything but the open and fair process that they had promised.
 
What we know for absolute certain is that this bill guarantees three things: instantaneous amnesty, permanent lawlessness, and a massive expansion in legal immigration that will reduce wages for working Americans. This legislation is a crushing blow to the working people of this country, a surrender to illegality, and a capitulation to special interests over the interests of the citizens we pledged to represent.”
 
 
BACKGROUND ON CORKER-HOEVEN SUBSTITUTE AMNESTY-FIRST IMMIGRATION BILL:
·        Immediate amnesty before enforcement
·        Guts legal requirement for biometric exit-entry system
·        Millions of green cards (permanent residency) before enforcement—debunking another false claim from sponsors
·        No border surge. Agents aren’t required until 2021. It will never happen
·        No fence requirement. DHS retains discretion in the bill that preempts the call for a fence in ten years. Litigation also provides an escape hatch to never build the fence. The fence won’t happen
·        Legalization for gang members and convicted criminals
·        Amnesty for future visa overstays (in other words, a prospective amnesty for future illegal immigrants)
·        Guaranteed welfare access for illegal immigrants
·        Undermines interior enforcement, prompting ICE officers to warn: “There is no doubt that, if passed, public safety will be endangered and massive amounts of future illegal immigration—especially visa overstays—is ensured.”
·        Expands non-merit chain migration—less than 10 percent of future flow is merit-based
·        Doubles the number of guest workers and triples the number of immigrants granted lawful permanent residency—reducing wages for U.S. workers and driving up unemployment

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There are many Republicans on board in support of this immigration reform bill.  Is there one Republican inside our forum who supports this bill?
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Deport all illegals and stop immigration for now.....Secure our borders and, then, straighten out this immigration mess....
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Deport all illegals and stop immigration for now.....Secure our borders and, then, straighten out this immigration mess....


I guess it is true that they really don't listen to the American people.  secure the border and stop rewarding those who break our laws.  I support enforcement of curent laws before you go making more laws.  Typical loons, trying to get the goods but never wanting to enforce the law

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