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mikec

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This sounds a bit like how some folks respond to a conservative who says abortion is murder.



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Dems are sick, degenerate and need help.  So time reasonable moral Americans step in and help them a bit. 

It is no good for the country to have one party in a two party system, degrade into a pedo rapin death cult. 

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This sounds a bit like how some folks respond to a conservative who says abortion is murder.




Not sure what you are implying.  I certainly think abortion is murder.  If you ever got any indication I said otherwise, apologies.

I think there is a political reality that makes getting 20 weeks, point of pain blah blah, way easier than full ban.  Once we get 20 we go back and ask for 15.  Then 10.  Once we have the momentum, we take it as far as we can.

Also stack the supreme court, that is the real ruling that legalizes abortion.

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mikec

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The point I'm hoping we recognize at some point continues.  There are enemies attacking us from the internet attempting to drive a wedge between the American people.  If some of us continue to doubt there are successful internet attempts to radicalize young men in this Country, if we refuse to believe there are attempts to feed us misinformation to anger the American population, then our vulnerability as a nation will only grow. 


Of course enemies trying to persuade Americans on how to think.  Been going on a long time.

Heck, the whole BLM and Occupy movements are examples of internet propaganda pushing people to act in ways that divide and degrade America.
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Not sure what you are implying.  I certainly think abortion is murder.  If you ever got any indication I said otherwise, apologies.

I think there is a political reality that makes getting 20 weeks, point of pain blah blah, way easier than full ban.  Once we get 20 we go back and ask for 15.  Then 10.  Once we have the momentum, we take it as far as we can.

Also stack the supreme court, that is the real ruling that legalizes abortion.


I'm not implying anything.

I am saying that I have been lecture on this very forum til my eyeballs bleed that being anti-abortion is a ticket to loserdom.
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Of course the internet is not the only source being used to pit Americans against Americans, or to inspire individuals to commit terrorist acts.  Of course we have enemies in many places.  Who said otherwise?  It's just a fact the internet is an easier door to get through for those enemies of ours on foreign soil.  That said, where did the pizza parlor child sex ring, or the Clinton murder accusations come from, if it wasn't the internet? 
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Speaking of BLM and Occupy, what ridiculous claims are they trying to get Americans to believe?  Are their statements cloaked secretly in a manner to mislead or are their positions open to public scrutiny and debate?  Don't confuse pushing philosophical beliefs in an open society with unsolicited private intervention in the personal space of an individual.  The latter often goes unchallenged.
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mikec

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Of course the internet is not the only source being used to pit Americans against Americans, or to inspire individuals to commit terrorist acts.  Of course we have enemies in many places.  Who said otherwise?  It's just a fact the internet is an easier door to get through for those enemies of ours on foreign soil.  That said, where did the pizza parlor child sex ring, or the Clinton murder accusations come from, if it wasn't the internet? 


This whole stupid thread started with a lecture about how our "enemies" are using the internet to divided Americans.

No sh*# Sherlock.

I submit that is happening to radicalize Americans based on race, economic status, and many other things.

Then, we get lectured about how some of that radicalization is justified and pure, while some of it isn't.

Heck, we've been told Antifa, BLM, and Occupy are on the pure side.  Even Islam is on the pure side.

The only thing that isn't on the pure side is white people.   Ask the daughter-defiling fantastist here about that.

It's all has the same purpose, yet you will defend some of it.
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Dewey is here now only to spout his opinions and not to engage in any kind of debate.  He won't respond and is now using an alternate handle in contradiction of his criticisms of others who do the same.

I have no doubt that part of his strategy is to drive the conservatives off this forum.  It's what leftists like Dewey do.  They are unable to argue on the merits of their position so they engage in tactics to shut out alternative opinions.  This is no different than Antifa beating others or college radicals trying to deny conservative voices on their campuses.  It's also reminiscent of Nazi Germany and other dictatorships that outlawed opposing opinions.

Dewey's goal is to win by wearing us down with his childish antics.  This won't win the day.  His liberal ideals will still be proven to be historical failures, Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents of all time, and this country's potential failure will be at the hands of leftists who rammed failed ideologies down the throats of those who don't scream as loud.

He can do as he pleases but most readers know that he has failed to win the argument through honest dialogue.  And that is a win for truth and what is right.

So Dewey, you lying coward, keep posting as Will I Win.  Those of us on the right will keep showing the readers the factually-based arguments that make everything you stand for wrong.

Case in Point #1: Thanks to Obamacare, healthcare premiums in Nevada have quadrupled in 4 years.  This is a fact.  And it flies in the face of Obama's lies about families saving $2,500 per year.  And it flies in the face of your multiple attempts to mislead the readers in this forum into believing that Obamacare was a success.  The data proves that it is not.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/news-columns/victor-joecks/obamacare-has-quadrupled-nevada-insurance-premiums-in-4-years/



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I think it's clear millions of Americans are failing to recognize the internet manipulation being fed their direction.  Too many odd beliefs being accepted as accurate to think otherwise.  Believing campaign promises is one thing.  Believing wild internet accusations is quite another.  

Our enemies have learned how an attack on our soil, or interference in our Democracy, will lead to Americans fighting Americans.  They'll be at the keyboard daily tying to manipulate the mindsets of many to keep this trend going.  If we continue our vulnerability to these campaigns by the enemy, intended to divide Americans, we can bring that phrase "the terrorists win" back out of mothballs.

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Notice how Dewey has decided to ignore the substantive part of any post.  This is because there is no valid answer he can provide.  Obamacare has caused premiums to skyrocket.  Rather than admitting he was wrong, he posts these ridiculous soliloquies as if that is supposed to convince anyone of anything.

Let us never forget that dividing Americans is a tactic created and perfected by Barack Obama.
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I think it's clear millions of Americans are failing to recognize the internet manipulation being fed their direction.  Too many odd beliefs being accepted as accurate to think otherwise.  Believing campaign promises is one thing.  Believing wild internet accusations is quite another.  

Our enemies have learned how an attack on our soil, or interference in our Democracy, will lead to Americans fighting Americans.  They'll be at the keyboard daily tying to manipulate the mindsets of many to keep this trend going.  If we continue our vulnerability to these campaigns by the enemy, intended to divide Americans, we can bring that phrase "the terrorists win" back out of mothballs.


Would this include wild internet accusations, like say, ummm, there are corpses of young unarmed black men littering the streets, gunned down willfully and wantonly by racist police officers?

If only some famous athlete would repeat that one, then have half the sheeple in America spout it, have a few celebs join in, presto-bango, it becomes un-American to stand for the American National Anthem.

Funny how these internet accusations can become a whole movement.

Jihadis at least are honest - they just wanna kill us.
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hands up don't shoot.  False Narratives like that?
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Will_I_Wynn

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The conduct of police, civil rights, etc., are debated regularly and openly in our society.  All sides chime in.  Far different than those individuals being subjected to information in the privacy of their computer.  The people who believe the former President was a foreigner, the people who think Hillary has been convicted of crimes thus a "criminal", the people who read and believe the Clinton's murdered people, the people who read and believe the West is evil, things that aren't publicly debated because there's no substance to the rumors, these are the areas where outside adversaries are gaining ground and dividing Americans.  The debate over statues or civil rights is not a secret debate being fed privately without being challenged.  Much different than the internet attacks I think we should all be concerned about.  Again, I understand there are those who don't believe we are being manipulated by adversaries on the internet for sinister reasons.  However, I'm suggesting they should be.
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pabar61

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Hillary Clinton sold uranium rights to Russia in exchange for massive donations to the Clinton Foundation.  Manipulation doesn't get any bigger than that.
uwApoligist

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so are the accuracy and the truthfulness of the press. 

Here is a CNN shot from yesterday.  They indicated that they had multiple reporters at multiple locations monitoring the event as it played out.

[5jbfUyi] 

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mikec

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Dear God, I fell for it again.  I now remember clearly why I stopped engaging Dewey.  Out.
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It's not a surprise that many don't believe our enemies are using the internet to divide the American people, to pass misinformation, to enrage with fake accusations, and/or to inspire individuals to attack the societies of both the US and the West, but it's a very serious concern.  Believing those who say the internet is not a tool being used by our enemies is compounding these concerns.


Will, I'm rapidly approaching the point that beating my head against this conservative blockhead wall is becoming counterproductive. I'm beginning to think some of them actually think the Clintons have people killed. Bill C meeting Lynch on the tarmac could have been underhanded......so, of course, it was. Liberals love it when Muslims kill innocent Americans. 

How do you reason with insanity? I used to tell my teenagers I refuse to argue with children. It's deja vu all over again.
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Hillary Clinton sold uranium rights to Russia in exchange for massive donations to the Clinton Foundation.  Manipulation doesn't get any bigger than that.


Wasn't hers to give. Ridiculous premise. 
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so are the accuracy and the truthfulness of the press. 

Here is a CNN shot from yesterday.  They indicated that they had multiple reporters at multiple locations monitoring the event as it played out.

[5jbfUyi] 


Idiot. That was either shopped or shows 2 different types of trucks. Notice the difference in total heighth of the truck in relation to the sign. You'll literally fall for anything that maKES YOUR SICK MIND WARM AND FUZZY. 
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Fresh you and Dewey both aren’t capable of carrying a Conversation with someone that thinks differently than you. You two really do belong together
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The truth is, you WANT Bill to have raped her, so you believe it.
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The people who are open to accepting what they are being fed may not be true, will better understand the fact the GOP Department of Justice can and will bring charges against Hillary Clinton if she has committed a crime.  The people who are more vulnerable and willing to swallow what they are fed, will be more apt to just conclude what they been given is true...end of story.  My guess is they are the primary targets of our outside adversaries working to drive a wedge between us Americans.
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Dewey's goal is to win by wearing us down with his childish antics.  This won't win the day.  




LOL. Like repeating the same mantra for 30 consecutive posts? Nothing childish there.
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Notice how Dewey has decided to ignore the substantive part of any post.  This is because there is no valid answer he can provide.  Obamacare has caused premiums to skyrocket.  Rather than admitting he was wrong, he posts these ridiculous soliloquies as if that is supposed to convince anyone of anything.

Let us never forget that dividing Americans is a tactic created and perfected by Barack Obama.


ACA premiums have risen in part because of faulty design. This can be fixed. The trump tactic of intentionally removing financing so it will fail, leaving millions without coverage is pure evil. trump will literally do or say anything to appear right. The tactic of repeal and replace was faulty and should have failed. There was a program in place that could have been modified with bi-partisan support. Unfortunately we have a complete ass hat for a president that can't work for the good of the people. He must enact legislation that appeals to his, now about 32%, base. Probably waiting on that first check from Mexico to pay for parts of the new health care bill. Oooooooppps, no health care bill? That's ok, no check either. What a joke.
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Will, I'm rapidly approaching the point that beating my head against this conservative blockhead wall is becoming counterproductive. I'm beginning to think some of them actually think the Clintons have people killed. Bill C meeting Lynch on the tarmac could have been underhanded......so, of course, it was. Liberals love it when Muslims kill innocent Americans. 

How do you reason with insanity? I used to tell my teenagers I refuse to argue with children. It's deja vu all over again.


His name is Dewey, not Will.
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I've always known him as Will. Not sure anyone really believes the 2 handle theory. Just another pointless way to fill space and see your name at the top of the page. 
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Wasn't hers to give. Ridiculous premise. 


That's part of what makes it so repulsive.  She did it anyway.

Tell us what above-board reason Bill Clinton had to meet with Lynch on the tarmac?
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ACA premiums have risen in part because of faulty design. This can be fixed. The trump tactic of intentionally removing financing so it will fail, leaving millions without coverage is pure evil. trump will literally do or say anything to appear right. The tactic of repeal and replace was faulty and should have failed. There was a program in place that could have been modified with bi-partisan support. Unfortunately we have a complete ass hat for a president that can't work for the good of the people. He must enact legislation that appeals to his, now about 32%, base. Probably waiting on that first check from Mexico to pay for parts of the new health care bill. Oooooooppps, no health care bill? That's ok, no check either. What a joke.


Again ignoring the facts.  Trump has nothing to do with a quadrupling of premiums.  You didn't even read the article.  Idiot.
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I've always known him as Will. Not sure anyone really believes the 2 handle theory. Just another pointless way to fill space and see your name at the top of the page. 


You know nothing because you haven't been here long enough.  That is one of Dewey's favorite lines.  Three irrefutable reasons Dewey is Will and Will is Dewey:

1.  Writing styles exactly the same.
2.  Will handle created one day after Dewey handle back in 2004.
3.  Will has never denied that he is Dewey.
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Why do you care? The typical attention to extraneous minutiae that proves nothing. What possible reason would he have for hiding out from you zealots. I think you take yourselves way too seriously. You are merely mind candy for us. Making points and watching your silly, adolescent responses. I have no reason to believe anything I say will have any affect on your locked down, limited mental faculties. Just provides entertainment.
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Copycat crime, copycat behavior and social media. The internet will be the downfall of society, yet we all are it's slaves. 
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