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Dewey

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You come back on a Thursday evening and some member is calling you a sick individual who supports the molestation of children.  Maybe he's a little bored and wanted to fire me up a bit.  Not sure what caused the flip out other than maybe he remembered I voted for President Obama's re-election but, whatever it was, it is what it is.  I spoke my piece which then opened the door for a drive by shot from member #2 calling me a socialist partisan hack.  Once again it's round and round we go time.  Clearly my intention to talk politics and avoid the confrontational and heated exchanges when possible is being severely tested.  Maybe that's my bad.  But what really blows this weekend's events out of the water is when member #3 comes along today and suggests I could be a little more civil.  Absolutely unbelievable considering what I received compared to what I returned.  Let me ask, do you think there's any bias inside here?  Geez.

Alright, back to the subject.  Somebody please tell me what's wrong with this article
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I say we turn loose our bad guys on their bad guys, and save hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. In doing so, we would be saving and protecting normal people, that just want to raise their children in peace, and love their families. The bad dudes, and their financial whores, can be eliminated in a 3-12 month time span. Why are we even farting around with our irrelevant CIC drawing lines in the sand He will not back up? Our nation has become a laughing stock internationally. Major fail. Don't send in a carrier group, send in some bad ass killers, and put down the leadership of the groups that are destabilizing the region. If you turned the Special Forces we have at our disposal loose on areas of Pakistan, killed off the Warlords there, and in Afghanistan, bought all there Poppy crops, and burned them, and then killed the leaders of the ISIS, and also attacked them into Lebanon, and into the Gaza strip, we wouldn't be talking about terrorism, or the overthrow of Iraq, or Syria. Hell, even Iran is on our side here. Go figure. Turn out the bad boys at our disposal, and lets get this done now. Why let the boil fester? Lance it, and drain the life blood from it. What are you people thinking? Trying to be nice with the people that have proclaimed a Jihad against you? I don't think that is going to work out well. These people want to kill you, and your children.

PS Dewey, nobody is paying much attention to you, or the CIC you worship. The SHTF in Syria. Now we watch the unraveling of the whole diplomatic farce Obama put into place. There is a purpose behind this. He is your guy, and this is His design. Own it.

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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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Dewey a partisan hack is someone who will defend his guy even when he is caught lying. You fit that description. Ask anyone on here.
Your political views line up with socialism. Ask anyone on here.
You love Obama. Ask anyone on here.
I really don't think you have a case to claim you have been greatly insulted. I simply spoke the truth.
As for NAMBLA, the fact that it is a real organization is proof that someone out there supports it. (Common sense should tell you that.) The people who started and supported NAMBLA came from the radical left wing of the democrat party who wanted more than just gay rights.

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GrizzlyFan - I'll repeat my two points and then you can continue this without me.

1)  You have never criticized a Libertarian while in office and you have an ongoing need to criticize this President in writing.  I have shared some Obama disappointments and, unlike you, I never had a need to criticize Bush in writing while he was in office.  I am a partisan person but you're every bit as partisan and more.  If you find enjoyment trying to negatively label others, I can't stop you.

2)  Some Conservatives don't hesitate to accuse Democrats of favoring the molestation of our children and/or to accuse them of not liking or caring for our men and women who serve. We've even been accused of not caring if they die.  At the same time, some of these same Conservative will whine excessively when they feel some Democrats have accused them of not caring for minorities.  This strikes me as extremely hypocritical and I've seen you and several others in here participate in this practice for years.
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Clinton seems a little too happy about getting a plea deal (2months time served) for a guy who raped a12 year old girl.

What is it with old liberals and child molestation?




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Yes dingbat my mom loved/s me just enough but I do know you grew up with weak men in your family tree. Those girls are always looking for that approval from their daddy that you didn't receive.
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Yeah, we trust their numbers on obamacare enrolless/payees, and we trust their numbers on the amount that obamacare will eventually cost us, and we trust their numbers on how many are on the gravy train rolls such as those millions of EBT cards, and we trust their numbers on how many people are being spied upon by the NSA, and we trust their numbers about how many Americans were being targeted by the IRS, we trust their numbers [and their EPA goons] on their WAR ON COAL, we trust their numbers on how many abortions are performed by Planned Parenthood on taxpayer dollars, we trust their timeline they made up when hillary and curious george had a hand in the out right failure of responsibility and the murders of our citizens in Benghazi.

yeah dewd, we'll trust politifact about accurate, immigration numbers
 


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Dewey have we ever had a Libertarian in office?
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Dewey

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Yes, many of these in office are Libertarians.  Have you ever criticized one?
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Joe Lieberman was the only Democrat I ever considered to be a Libertarian. He walked off the reservation, and the Dems weren't happy about it. There are a lot of Republicans, I consider to be Libertarians. I can't think of any Democrats. They are all about towing the Socialist garbage barge up Sh*t creek, to care about anyone's Liberties, or for that matter, any limitations on an overbearing, overreaching Central Government. We are becoming an Orwellian Socialist State ran by a bunch of snarky, Mom jean wearing Progs. Dang, it's a shame to watch. And the ignorant masses worship them as they take away their freedoms. We have an ignorant population. I am not sure any amount of education would help. Stupid is, as stupid does. Heard that line in a movie somewhere.
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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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On immigrant surge, White House story falls apart


http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/on-immigrant-surge-white-house-story-falls-apart/article/2549755

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Jorge Ramos Foresees "Explosion of Migrants" as Word of White House Border Policy Spreads in Central America



http://cis.org/kammer/jorge-ramos-foresees-explosion-migrants-word-white-house-border-policy-spreads-central-americ

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And the WaPo story, where DiFi agrees with Republican concerns:

Influx of minors across Texas border driven by belief that they will be allowed to stay in U.S.


http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics/influx-of-minors-across-texas-border-driven-by-belief-that-they-will-be-allowed-to-stay-in-us/2014/06/13/5406355e-f276-11e3-9ebc-2ee6f81ed217_story.html

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Republicans point to the crisis as evidence that Obama’s policies have contributed to a widespread belief that young migrants will be allowed to remain in the country. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Thursday that her staff found evidence on a recent tour of a Border Patrol station in Nogales, Ariz., that the young migrants are being promised as much before leaving home.

Two of Feinstein’s staff members visited the Nogales facility, where hundreds of children were sent for processing in recent weeks after the patrol stations in the Rio Grande Valley were overwhelmed. In a statement to The Washington Post, Feinstein said the children were being well fed and cared for, but she emphasized that “what concerns me is why the children are crossing the border in the first place.”

“After engaging with the children and U.S. personnel, my staff learned that many of the children were smuggled across the border after hearing radio ads promising they would not be deported,” Feinstein said. “My staff also heard that religious organizations are spreading the same message.”

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Saw this in WaPo, that bastion of Obama cheerleaders:

Lies, Damned Lies, and Obama’s Deportation Statistics

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

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From USA Today

Obama Deportee In Chief? Not Quite

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/15/voices-gomez-obama-deportation-record/7562779/

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Consider the mess at the border while reading this on Cloward-Piven reform strategy, as it would apply to Obama's lawless immigration policy.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".

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The Second Article of Impeachment against Nixon was a use of the IRS to pursue political enemies.

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Texas Gov Rick Perry has had enough of Obama's failure to secure the border and dangerous immigration policy that threatens Americans, orders a surge in law enforcement along the border.

He specifically lists related crime: murder, sexual assault, child prostitution, extortion "putting Texans lives at risk."

Some Democrats support Obama's policy that allows these murderers and child molesters into America, aiding and abetting crimes against our children. Vile and immoral creatures, those supporters.

The order is here:

http://governor.state.tx.us/files/press-office/Border-Letter-06-18-2014.pdf


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Perry, and Cornyn always talked tough on illegal immigration in campaign ads. They were shown overlooking the border wearing Carhart jackets, looking very stern, and talking with local sheriffs. But just like Bush, they allowed it to fester. Only after a bad string of SHTF in 2012, did the Lt. Governor put the DPS in force to shut down the border for a month or so. Perry cannot be trusted, and the Lt. Gov is a RINO. House Speaker Joe Strauss, will have to also sign on to any order allocating funding to the Department of Public Safety, (the highway patrol) to shut down the border. Perry is in campaign mode, and may see some opportunity to get some PR. If that's what it takes to close our border, I will endure his RINO campaigning. Just lock down the border. NOW. Set up tent cities, and deportation facilities to send these people back home. Don't let the administration openly advocate the violation of our laws. The administration is aiding and abetting a foreign invasion of our country. Some might call that a direct violation to the oath of office, and means for impeachment. That would probably play into the administrations plans, but instead, I believe a massive amount of Republican AG's filing suit simultaneously, might urge Congress to begin impeachment hearings first against Eric Holder. After that, the Dominoes start falling, and the IRS missing emails will put the administration under severe pressure of impeachment.
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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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Obama tries to dump 500 illegal immigrants in small Virginia town.


Fighting back: Residents force feds to scrap plan to house illegals at Va. college
Local communities say no to Obama...
President Obama's administration is being out-organized as it tries to find places to stash the illegal immigrant children, but is...

Local communities say no to Obama administration on stashing illegal immigrant children
Washington Times



http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/16/residents-force-feds-to-scrap-plan-to-house-illega/?page=all

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AS ILLEGALS FLOW ACROSS BORDER, MS-13 MEMBERS IN MD CHARGED WITH VIOLENT CRIMES

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/18/As-More-Illegals-Flow-In-MS-13-Members-in-MD-Charged-With-Violent-Crimes

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MS-13 is a national and international gang composed mainly of immigrants or descendants from El Salvador. Branches or groups of MS-13, one of the largest street gangs in the United States, run throughout Prince George’s County and Montgomery County.

Recent news reports say that border patrol agents are currently struggling to keep up with the massive flood of illegal immigrants. Chris Cabrera, vice president of the National Border Patrol Council Local 3307 in the Rio Grande Valley, told National Review that gang members from MS-13 are being allowed into the U.S. as part of the illegal immigrant surge.

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MS-13 is an international gang with a strong prescense in the US. Many Obama's illegal immigrant surge are from El Salvador. Obama is even providing them with immigration lawyers and transportation to hubs of gang activity, like Maryland / Washington DC suburbs. Almost like reinforcements. See how this works?

Some Democrats support Obama's immigration that allows murderers, rapists, and child molesters into America. Their compassion for gangs is greater than their compassion for the American children being victimized. That's some sick, demented, ideology.

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In case there's any doubt that this has been orchestrated by this administration, the government was looking for people to escort alien children in January.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c6d7c0050b912fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&=s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c6d7c0050b912fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&amp


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Nobody from our Government is orchestrating the immigration of these Central American children.  Again, that's just nonsense.  However, we are responsible for caring for them while they are here.  Hopefully, everyone agrees children should be cared for.  I heard one source say the GOP continuously telling the world this President does not deport illegal immigrants is inviting many more to come over the border.  It's not unlike repeating to the world our President is supposedly weak and potentially inviting the world to test us.  The Right's continuous attack of this President is hurting America.
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Lmao..Obama is hurting America you loon
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Sheriff Joe: Obama's 'dumping of illegals is intentional'...
Boehner: 'Administration's own making'...
Border Patrol Council: 'De facto amnesty is here'...
SHOCK PHOTO: Tin Foil Blankets...
Scabies, chicken pox...
Hundreds Arrive By Hour...
No room left for homeless Texans...
Known Gang Members Released...
Frustrated Border Agents Look For New Jobs...
CLAIM: 'Homeland' Paying For Illegals to be ESCORTED INTO USA...
Rick Perry Unloads On Obama's Failure To Secure Border...


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Nobody from our Government is orchestrating the immigration of these Central American children.  Again, that's just nonsense.  However, we are responsible for caring for them while they are here.  Hopefully, everyone agrees children should be cared for.  I heard one source say the GOP continuously telling the world this President does not deport illegal immigrants is inviting many more to come over the border.  It's not unlike repeating to the world our President is supposedly weak and potentially inviting the world to test us.  The Right's continuous attack of this President is hurting America.


Saying it's nonsense is not an argument, especially when you ignore the evidence that was posted.

Obama is inviting the criticism, not attack, with his policies.  Obama alone is hurting this country.  Have you seen the price of food lately?  This is what happens with endless QE.  And QE is the only thing that has propped up the economy for the last 6 years.
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pabar - Fair enough.  I'm willing to trust the readers and my fellow citizens.  If they think Obama is working to get these little children from Central America through Mexico and into our Country, then there's little I can do to convince them otherwise.  I suspect the majority of Americans will dismiss this claim.
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pabar - Fair enough.  I'm willing to trust the readers and my fellow citizens.  If they think Obama is working to get these little children from Central America through Mexico and into our Country, then there's little I can do to convince them otherwise.  I suspect the majority of Americans will dismiss this claim.


I suspect you don't know what the majority of Americans will dismiss.  Of course, if that's your measuring stick then I'm sure you'll agree with the majority of Americans who think Obama is incompetent, that he can't be trusted and that we should never have implemented Obamacare in the first place.
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Dewey here is the problem I have with immigration. I believe it is on the statue of Liberty. "Give us your tired your poor". The problem now is our economy cant handle it. I am all for humanitarian aid for these children but even Hilary Clinton said just because you cross our border doesnt mean you can stay. Unfortunately  the Obama Administration message is being interpreted  by people in central America seeking a better life is that you can make it across our border easily.Having all these people cross with limited resistance will only put a further strain on our fragile economy. Are American taxpayers willing to absorb another tax hike to pay for these people.
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The Democrats would LOVE to jack up taxes to pay for these future votes.
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