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uwApoligist

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BTW, despite continually lying about it to the public.........NO NEW WALL HAS BEEN BUILT DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION. As long as he continues to try to lie and bully his way to a wall...........Pelosi will give him nothing. I know that just chaffs his ass. Pelosi bullying the bully. Once again, he will have to lie in order to cover up his failure. 

hmmm: 




Easily researched and confirmed. 

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Then do it. Confirm it is not just pictures of wall being built earlier. You can't, because no new wall has been built. Period. I can't prove no wall is being built, the burden is on you.
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The funding is to enhance existing fence as explained in the video.


Edit: There’s a reason Trump doesn’t use that video to prove to his supporters he kept his promise on a border wall.

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Well, if UTube is proof



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Well, if UTube is proof




schitt, duaine used wikipedia as his sources and vox and snopes are your go-to, why not youTube, it's at least as believable as twitter.

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Just like Fresh to run into his hidey hole when he s got nothin
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Proof is on you. I didn't make the assertion. I'm just asking if any Youtube video is proof? And none of you has been able to disprove a single Snopes article. Truth never sways you guys though.
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I know you are but what am I
You do you Pee Wee

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One thing it appears we can all agree on is Democrats have signed off on a lot fence repair and upgrades, more border agents, and more technology.  These videos may even convince Rightists of that fact.  Did that lead President Trump to tell Americans how Democrats care about border security?  Of course it didn't.  If Democrats think giving the President money to build more wall is going to earn them any praise for securing our border, then they haven't been paying very much attention.


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Democrats care about stuff like taking our money and giving it to Dem voters and killing babies - born and unborn...........
uwApoligist

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Proof is on you. I didn't make the assertion. I'm just asking if any Youtube video is proof? And none of you has been able to disprove a single Snopes article. Truth never sways you guys though.

Nbcnews video showing actual construction. 

You f'd up the dem talking point big time.  You want me to give you what you were supposed to be saying on this subject?

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One thing it appears we can all agree on is Democrats have signed off on a lot fence repair and upgrades, more border agents, and more technology.  These videos may even convince Rightists of that fact.  Did that lead President Trump to tell Americans how Democrats care about border security?  Of course it didn't.  If Democrats think giving the President money to build more wall is going to earn them any praise for securing our border, then they haven't been paying very much attention.



Yes, Democrats have supported replacing and often upgrading existing fencing.

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Illegals are now crossing more and more in the open areas of desert between Arizona/New Mexico and Mexico where there is no border fencing.

"A group of 325 Central Americans surrendered to agents Thursday near Lukeville, Ariz., according to Customs and Border Protection. Migrants told authorities that buses and trucks dropped them off throughout the night on a nearby Mexican highway that runs parallel to the border and they entered the U.S. together to wait for agents to find them. There were nearly 150 children, including 32 who were traveling alone."

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The Border Patrol has encountered groups of at least 100 people 60 times since Oct. 1, compared to 13 during the entire 2018 fiscal year and two in the 2017 fiscal year, officials said. Many are in the desolate New Mexico Bootheel and Arizona deserts. "

"The large percentage of families and young children has stretched U.S. authorities even more in remote areas where staffing is thinner. Customs and Border Protection says medical attention was needed about 12,000 times for border crossers in the 12-month period ending Sept. 30. "

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/talks-on-border-wall-break-down-ahead-of-second-possible-government-shutdown

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Crossing only to be intercepted by border agents.

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Illegals are now crossing more and more in the open areas of desert between Arizona/New Mexico and Mexico where there is no border fencing.

"A group of 325 Central Americans surrendered to agents Thursday near Lukeville, Ariz., according to Customs and Border Protection. Migrants told authorities that buses and trucks dropped them off throughout the night on a nearby Mexican highway that runs parallel to the border and they entered the U.S. together to wait for agents to find them. There were nearly 150 children, including 32 who were traveling alone."

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The Border Patrol has encountered groups of at least 100 people 60 times since Oct. 1, compared to 13 during the entire 2018 fiscal year and two in the 2017 fiscal year, officials said. Many are in the desolate New Mexico Bootheel and Arizona deserts. "

"The large percentage of families and young children has stretched U.S. authorities even more in remote areas where staffing is thinner. Customs and Border Protection says medical attention was needed about 12,000 times for border crossers in the 12-month period ending Sept. 30. "

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/talks-on-border-wall-break-down-ahead-of-second-possible-government-shutdown

Just think how many get through. Not to mention the majority of these “asylum seekers” that are apprehended never show back up for their court date and if they do most are denied asylum.

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uwApoligist

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Just think how many get through. Not to mention the majority of these “asylum seekers” that are apprehended never show back up for their court date and if they do most are denied asylum.

Exactly the 17 million are coming from somewhere. 

Dems are now claiming that they support `cruel immigration policies`, so we are back to calling a border immoral.  They have no intention of negotiating on border security.  Never did.

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Just think how many get through. Not to mention the majority of these “asylum seekers” that are apprehended never show back up for their court date and if they do most are denied asylum.


False again. Asylum seekers do show for hearings.

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/resource/fact-check-asylum-seekers-regularly-attend-immigration-court-hearings

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Exactly the 17 million are coming from somewhere. 

Dems are now claiming that they support `cruel immigration policies`, so we are back to calling a border immoral.  They have no intention of negotiating on border security.  Never did.

First of all there are no wars in Central America.  There is nothing to seek asylum from.  Socialist destroyed their country, that is not an automatic burden for the American taxpayer. 
In asylum, once you leave your country where you are in trouble, you are safe.  You do not have a right to go to the USA and live on the US taxpayers dollars.

In 2007 5,171 claimed credible fear for asylum.  In 2016 that number exploded to 91,786.   Central America is actually more stable now than in 2007, when there were actual wars in Central America.  More than 70% will be fail the credible fear tests.  90% are not eligible for asylum. 

What is going on at the border is a complete democrat created sham.  All you have to do is listen to AOC claims about abolishing ICE.  See them implement their sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and you know all you need to know.  The democrats have zero interest in any real border security.

Their claims they are for border security, just in other forms not a barrier are completely and utter lies.  They signal their true intentions all day every day.

The world is not the American taxpayers burden.  They should stop selling short America's poor for their far left agenda.


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The democrats have zero interest in any real border security.



This same poster provided videos of construction to repair and upgrade fencing on our border.  Democrats signed on to the funding to fix those walls.  Last year the President signed a budget which gave him $1.6 Billion in border funding.  Democrats signed on to this funding.  I'll let each of you judge how one can claim "zero interest" by Democrats while showing you video and budgets proving Democratic Party support.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/23/trump-threatens-to-veto-omnibus-spending-bill-over-daca-and-the-border-wall.html

Trump highlighted the portions of the bill he supports: the nearly $80 billion increase in defense spending, a $1.6 billion boost to border security funding and a cash injection to fight the opioid epidemic. The border money will go mostly toward surveillance technology and fencing similar to structures that already exist on the southern border. The amount of funding came in far below what the president wanted.

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Illegals are now crossing more and more in the open areas of desert between Arizona/New Mexico and Mexico where there is no border fencing.

"A group of 325 Central Americans surrendered to agents Thursday near Lukeville, Ariz., according to Customs and Border Protection. Migrants told authorities that buses and trucks dropped them off throughout the night on a nearby Mexican highway that runs parallel to the border and they entered the U.S. together to wait for agents to find them. There were nearly 150 children, including 32 who were traveling alone."

"
The Border Patrol has encountered groups of at least 100 people 60 times since Oct. 1, compared to 13 during the entire 2018 fiscal year and two in the 2017 fiscal year, officials said. Many are in the desolate New Mexico Bootheel and Arizona deserts. "

"The large percentage of families and young children has stretched U.S. authorities even more in remote areas where staffing is thinner. Customs and Border Protection says medical attention was needed about 12,000 times for border crossers in the 12-month period ending Sept. 30. "

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/talks-on-border-wall-break-down-ahead-of-second-possible-government-shutdown


Seems like we could save millions $$$ if we stopped them before they enter.  Look at the cost we incur when we aren't proactive.  Let's don't pursue the foot-dragging route that the stoopid dems would have us follow.

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uwApoligist

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Directly from people that live at the border giving actual experiences and solutions on our border. 

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Again, if immigrants are crossing our border and avoiding apprehension, it would be evidenced by a huge video segment every night on Fox News.  It's just spin in hopes Trump gets some wall money that may help him keep a promise which in turn may help him get reelected.




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Directly from people that live at the border giving actual experiences and solutions on our border. 


Leftists aren't interested in facts or realities.

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Why do you think Fox News won’t document areas where immigrants are crossing and provide the video evidence? Why don’t they help President Trump make his case?



Hint: Because the evidence isn’t there.

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The case has been made for a long, long time..........

Build the wall............
Will_I_Wynn

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Look how Obama decreased the number of immigrants crossing the border. More proof the claims Democrats don’t care about border security are false.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2016/10/09/how-many-mexicans-actually-cross-border-illegally/91280026/

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More proof of the necessity of a wall.

First, a graph showing how crossings in El Paso dropped when a barrier was constructed.

https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1095078431317000193/photo/1

Second, stats showing the huge increase in border arrests.  With a wall, our DHS resources could be much better used.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/border-arrests-85-percent-period-year-us-customs/story?id=60939312

 

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We have addressed the problem of immigrants crossing open borders. They are now apprehended. Spend the money catching those coming through ports of entry. More agents and more technology.

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Walls work efficiently in populated areas. Walls not so efficient when crossing open plains. Might as well have agents respond to drones and sensors. $89.99 ladder blows the top security barrier. 
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Immigrants crossing the border right at the point the wall is being built. 

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