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keepinitreal

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Dems will lie, Gruber and obama taught us that, then hilLIARy doubled down
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Democrats want border security. There would be no Trump talking point if Rightists couldn’t fabricate falsehoods and mislead Americans to believe otherwise. It’s ridiculous. They want you to believe Democrats don’t want border security. As an example of how ridiculous their spin is, they spent all day quoting Clinton and Obama speeches on how important it is to secure the border and pointing out the many times Democrats have voted for barriers. If we line up the times the Right was caught speaking out of both sides of their mouth, this would be the best example.


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Dems will lie, Gruber and obama taught us that, then hilLIARy doubled down

They have to since telling everyone what they were really angling for would make the average person vomit

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keepinitreal

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From Rep Crenshaw
The problem must be solved in a multi-faceted way. Physical barriers are a necessary part of that solution. Just ask the migrant caravan when they arrived in Tijuana, where the wall prevented them from overrunning our border agents. Walls mitigate movement. Period.

If the wall wasn’t there those hundreds or thousands of illegals would have just walked into the US


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Democrats want border security.


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Roughly half a million illegals annually, how the he!! does the illegal population stay at 11 million.


SWB Migration FY19TD_NOV Graphic

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Thanks to Democrats and Republicans supporting the addition of thousands of more border agents, it appears most are being apprehended.

That said, let's say 100,000 yearly make it into the US and 25,000 walk across where there is no wall.  Once a wall goes up, we're down to 75,000 coming in.  What do we do then?

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Roughly half a million illegals annually, how the he!! does the illegal population stay at 11 million.


SWB Migration FY19TD_NOV Graphic

Be careful coach.  The left and MSM is playing a stupid game.  They are quoting number of Mexicans illegally entering from Mexico.   This number used to be close enough, it was like 1.2M entries total, and 50k from countries other than Mexico.  

Mexicans no longer have incentive to cross into the US.  Companies in Mexico are hiring.  NAFTA moved a crap ton of jobs to Mexico.  

That is no longer the case.  Mexican entries are now small compared to Honduras, Guatemalan and El Salvadorans.  Actually this is a part of the alarm.  That we did everything to reduce the number of Mexicans coming to this country, and just as it starts the democraphic changes to more southern countries.

Actually if you listen to the border patrol person talking to Trump yesterday the numbers he gave for his sector were about 1200 apprehensions in a day and about 220 of them were not from South America at all, but India, Yemen, Africa and other countries.

The numbers are about 500,000 people caught and 700,000 people made it into the USA for 2018.  The reference has been posted in the past.



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HE GONE

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrant-with-multiple-child-sex-abuse-convictions-arrested-in-texas-traffic-stop-cops-say
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It’s great when criminals are caught. Even if they worked in the Trump campaign.


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I’m sure he will be back. He will just find an unsecure part of the border and walk across

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Will_I_Wynn

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If significant numbers were walking across the border, Fox News would show the video daily. This is mostly hype for political gain.
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10 by land, 20 by sea.
I guess all those ranchers on the border are liars when they say illegals are just walking across unprotected sections of the border

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Will_I_Wynn

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Oh I think there's a few hundred or so that walk across.  Maybe more.  But they mostly get picked up by border agents at some point.  Certainly not enough to justify billions of dollars being spent on a wall.  Add a few border agents if necessary.




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10 by land, 20 by sea.
I guess all those ranchers on the border are liars when they say illegals are just walking across unprotected sections of the border

Those ranchers seem to be pretty spot on in their take on things.  From where they sit, they are getting a good perspective.  Only missed by a bit.  These illegals are not walking across the border, they are paddling across. 

Fences work.  They have always worked.  Add in the Isreali technology that prevents tampering, climbing or tunneling, and they are basically full proof. 

Orange man bad is an awful approach to policy and should be rejected by all. 

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How ever they might come across, it's not in significant numbers.  If it were, Fox News would have cameras on these ranches to provide evidence on behalf of President Trump.  Anyway, the border agents pick them up for the most part.
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Those ranchers seem to be pretty spot on in their take on things.  From where they sit, they are getting a good perspective.  Only missed by a bit.  These illegals are not walking across the border, they are paddling across. 

Fences work.  They have always worked.  Add in the Isreali technology that prevents tampering, climbing or tunneling, and they are basically full proof. 

Orange man bad is an awful approach to policy and should be rejected by all. 

We have seen footage for years and years of the illegal crossings but the dems just deny and ignore

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Will_I_Wynn

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Then obviously your side is doing a poor job of illustrating the problem. I think it’s because these days border agents grab those who walk across. A much better security solution than any wall in open spaces could ever be.

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We have seen footage for years and years of the illegal crossings but the dems just deny and ignore

Of course they do.  It is clearly a part of their overall strategy.  Fits right in with their sanctuary cities.  I am not sure why republicans would ever believe a democrat when they say they are all for 'border security' just not that 'border security'.  They lie.  

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We have seen footage for years and years of the illegal crossings but the dems just deny and ignore

Good thing the russians came along and meme'd us a president that could stand strong against the illegal immigration horde.   Now if we can get the all built, things will really improve.

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Now Pelosi’s latest offer for the dem version of “border security” does not include money for additional agents. No added border patrol agents to stop the illegals walking and swimming their way into the hearts of liberals
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If you’d get that video evidence out there for all to see, the Democrats may be forced to cough up some wall money. As it stands now, most Americans realize it would be a waste of money. Investing in agents and ports of entry is the way to go.

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Now Pelosi’s latest offer for the dem version of “border security” does not include money for additional agents. No added border patrol agents to stop the illegals walking and swimming their way into the hearts of liberals

Sad.  Democrats are not listening to the voters very well.  They did not just elect this President because the spicy Russian memes.  They elected him because he wanted to fix immigration.  

Let's see how it goes for them in 2020 based on their current approach.

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From Rep Dan Crenshaw. The last line also supports what southern ranchers have been reporting for years

Dem: walls can’t stop visa overstays!

Me: we know that

Dem: can’t stop drugs at points of entry either!

Me: never said it would

Dem: so why build it!? It’s immoral!

Me: Because last night in Rio Grande Valley I witnessed nearly 1,000 people cross unimpeded. Just one sector.

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I think Trump will change his approach as well. I doubt he’ll continue to say Mexico will pay for a wall. He might say Kasich or Flake are criminals but it’s safe to say that Mexico gibberish is done for good.


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From Rep Dan Crenshaw. The last line also supports what southern ranchers have been reporting for years

Dem: walls can’t stop visa overstays!

Me: we know that

Dem: can’t stop drugs at points of entry either!

Me: never said it would

Dem: so why build it!? It’s immoral!

Me: Because last night in Rio Grande Valley I witnessed nearly 1,000 people cross unimpeded. Just one sector.

Every night, all along the border.  Some of that fence just needs to be rebuilt.  You would look stupid to argue that barriers don't work.

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We are already fixing dilapidated fences. But the open areas are better served with border patrols.

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Every night, all along the border.  Some of that fence just needs to be rebuilt.  You would look stupid to argue that barriers don't work.

More agents would definitely help but Pelosi has taken that off the table as well. No money for new hires

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