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keepinitreal

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CNN is not news, it's an anti-Trump propaganda machine. My source you ask? CNN
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I previously posted my sources. CNN is one.


If you honestly believe that CNN is a legitimate news source, then there is no helping you.  They have proven to be not only completely biased to the left but have engaged in tactics designed to help the Democrats - i.e. Donna Brazile.

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They must have a proven history of at least trying to be honest.

This is the first bullet point in the Dem playbook. Always claim you tried and then you have no accountability for failure. This is always followed by requests for additional funding because more money solves incompetence.

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CNN, WSJ, New Yorker, N Y Times, Washington Post, L A Times, Atlantic Monthly, Politifact, Snopes and last, but not least, an asian lady in a car that got her information from a guy that knows. He really knows.

Oh.....and Robert Reich

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CNN, WSJ, New Yorker, N Y Times, Washington Post, L A Times, Atlantic Monthly, Politifact, Snopes and last, but not least, an asian lady in a car that got her information from a guy that knows. He really knows.

Oh.....and Robert Reich


A post with no purpose.

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CNN, WSJ, New Yorker, N Y Times, Washington Post, L A Times, Atlantic Monthly, Politifact, Snopes and last, but not least, an asian lady in a car that got her information from a guy that knows. He really knows.

Oh.....and Robert Reich

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keepinitreal

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Snopes is the funniest of all for the old man, he's a troll
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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A post with no purpose.


FromUWA............
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The source of the report is key. They must have a proven history of at least trying to be honest. These unproven memes and youtube videos are from just any tom, dick, or bubba. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it so. I get information every day that supports my position, but don't use them because I question the source.

Only CNN, right?
 


Thus my answer.

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is trump going all in on amnesty whilst dining with his new pals schumer and Pelosi?  seems he wants to legalize all illegal offspring.
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I'd guess 45% of rightists favor deporting all or most DACA individuals and 55% of rightists support giving them legal status.  What's a Congress or President to do?
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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

After being subjected to our first black President being called a liar, over and over, black Americans must fume when they hear the angry Right say they don't care about this President failing to be straight with the American people.  Can anyone blame them?  Trump should be honest with the American people.


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I'd guess 45% of rightists favor deporting all or most DACA individuals and 55% of rightists support giving them legal status.  What's a Congress or President to do?


don't know, because I don't know what a "rightist" is.
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is trump going all in on amnesty whilst dining with his new pals schumer and Pelosi?  seems he wants to legalize all illegal offspring.

Not really sure.  Would not surprise me.  Trump has long said he does not see us putting on jack boots, kicking in these doors and hauling off dreamers.

The order, for like the 100th time is,
- get rid of criminal illegals immigrants by deporting them immediately. 
- stop influx of illegal immigrants overrunning our poorest neighborhoods, poorest schools, poorest hospitals. 
- get rid of illegal immigrants that are living off the welfare system.
- it it ended there it would be fine, the rest is bonus.
- figure out what to do with long term well employed dreamers.
- figure out what to do with long term well employed illegals. 

Those final two could well be served by a system that looked a lot like our current immigration system.  

Most educated and smartest are allowed to apply in place.  Get a sponsor, pay a fine and immigrate in place.

Can't get a sponsor, you get to pay a fine and enter a queue for quickened immigration process.

Anyway none of it matters. Ryan said he will not be doing anything with illegal immigration.  That no one wants anything done.  Someone could take some time and explain that at some point.
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I'd guess 45% of rightists favor deporting all or most DACA individuals and 55% of rightists support giving them legal status.  What's a Congress or President to do?


Hey Dewey - stop with the "guesses" that are meant to actually put an idea in the reader's head.  Aside from the fact that nobody has ever used the term "rightist" and you're only using it as a response to the legitimate use of the term "leftist", only a small percentage of conservatives support mass deportations.

And please stop using this ridiculous handle and just come out from hiding.  It's tiresome.

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Sort of like "alt-left". We all know what president goldman sachs meant by that.
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Well, this will be fun.  I guess Hannity will be pro-amnesty tomorrow at 10.

"We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides," Pelosi and Schumer said in a joint statement.
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Well, this will be fun.  I guess Hannity will be pro-amnesty tomorrow at 10.

"We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides," Pelosi and Schumer said in a joint statement.


Trump reneging on the biggest reason he won the election.

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The Man of Steel shielding the illegals. We are officially F'd.



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Well, this will be fun.  I guess Hannity will be pro-amnesty tomorrow at 10.

"We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides," Pelosi and Schumer said in a joint statement.


Oh mike. 

"President Donald Trump had a constructive working dinner with Senate and House minority leaders, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, as well as administration officials to discuss policy and legislative priorities,” the statement said. “These topics included tax reform, border security, DACA, infrastructure and trade. This is a positive step toward the president’s strong commitment to bipartisan solutions for the issues most important to all Americans. The administration looks forward to continuing these conversations with leadership on both sides of the aisle.”

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I quoted Pelosi and schumer's statement.  Sorry if that offends you.
keepinitreal

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Hey Dewey - stop with the "guesses" that are meant to actually put an idea in the reader's head.  Aside from the fact that nobody has ever used the term "rightist" and you're only using it as a response to the legitimate use of the term "leftist", only a small percentage of conservatives support mass deportations.

And please stop using this ridiculous handle and just come out from hiding.  It's tiresome.


For what reason would a forum moderator use dual handles? Would not that be rule #1 in a forum? Please management stop the dual handles used by dewy and KPI.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Trump wants to be loved and get sh it done. Everyone knew he wasn't a R. He sees that the party he ran under wants nothing to do,with him. He will do whatever it takes to get sh it done. Whatever it is that he can stake a claim to.
F the whole Republican Party and its leadership. They have been handed a once in a lifetime opportunity and all they want to do is have cocktails and bang interns.
Disgusted by the whole lot, the process, and our government.

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Yep f'd healthcare.  Now f'd immigration reform.  Next they will f' tax cuts/spending cuts. 

Watch what happens in 2020.  Going to be random as f' and fun.
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you are saying f them because they don't want to grant amnesty?

all the conservatives (or fakers anyways) are purged, and his whole crew is now libs, led by his top advisers - minime daughter and husband.

you are blaming GOP because he is embracing his inner liberal?

Your anger is misplaced.


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Trump wants to be loved and get sh it done. Everyone knew he wasn't a R. He sees that the party he ran under wants nothing to do,with him. He will do whatever it takes to get sh it done. Whatever it is that he can stake a claim to. F the whole Republican Party and its leadership. They have been handed a once in a lifetime opportunity and all they want to do is have cocktails and bang interns. Disgusted by the whole lot, the process, and our government.
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I quoted Pelosi and schumer's statement.  Sorry if that offends you.


No worries. I just figured that since they were being quoted after dinner, they were probably drunky and their accuracy may have been tainted. Both of them are alki's. Of course, Donald was stone cold sober.

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Trump wants to be loved and get sh it done. Everyone knew he wasn't a R. He sees that the party he ran under wants nothing to do,with him. He will do whatever it takes to get sh it done. Whatever it is that he can stake a claim to. F the whole Republican Party and its leadership. They have been handed a once in a lifetime opportunity and all they want to do is have cocktails and bang interns. Disgusted by the whole lot, the process, and our government.


Damn straight, exactly the way I see it too. Stock that SC. He gave the rino congress a chance to make things happen, and they did what they do. So now he said F em.

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you are saying f them because they don't want to grant amnesty?

all the conservatives (or fakers anyways) are purged, and his whole crew is now libs, led by his top advisers - minime daughter and husband.

you are blaming GOP because he is embracing his inner liberal?

Your anger is misplaced.



He likes him big government.  Likes the illegal immigrants coming in a lowering wages as well.  Tells everyone else they are not conservative enough cause they won't martyr themselves up on the stake of abortion, or gay marriage, or ... 

Most of us just want the government in our lives a little less.  We want those that are in this country to get a shot at a good paying job.   Nothing McConnell or Ryan is doing has anything to do with that.  Been that way in eGOP circles for a long time.

Beget the Tea Party Revolution, when that pissed out, we did the Trump thing.  No reason at this point not to keep trying.  $20T in debt.  Republicans can only get 40 votes for anything at this point.  Always cut each other down.  We are left wishing Boehner would come back.  Get good and red nose drunk.  Declare healthcare could have been a bigger loss that it was.   The good old days.
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No worries. I just figured that since they were being quoted after dinner, they were probably drunky and their accuracy may have been tainted. Both of them are alki's. Of course, Donald was stone cold sober.


this is a good point, actually.  Pelosi hasn't uttered a sober word since prohibition.
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so again, you and spaz would blame the GOP for trump legalizing amnesty in a deal with Pelosi/schumer?

There is some pushback from WH this eve, and Hannity and Ingraham are losing their minds, so maybe he'll walk it back.

But, blaming the GOP for trump going hard left is silly.


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He likes him big government.  Likes the illegal immigrants coming in a lowering wages as well.  Tells everyone else they are not conservative enough cause they won't martyr themselves up on the stake of abortion, or gay marriage, or ... 

Most of us just want the government in our lives a little less.  We want those that are in this country to get a shot at a good paying job.   Nothing McConnell or Ryan is doing has anything to do with that.  Been that way in eGOP circles for a long time.

Beget the Tea Party Revolution, when that pissed out, we did the Trump thing.  No reason at this point not to keep trying.  $20T in debt.  Republicans can only get 40 votes for anything at this point.  Always cut each other down.  We are left wishing Boehner would come back.  Get good and red nose drunk.  Declare healthcare could have been a bigger loss that it was.   The good old days.
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you are saying f them because they don't want to grant amnesty?

all the conservatives (or fakers anyways) are purged, and his whole crew is now libs, led by his top advisers - minime daughter and husband.

you are blaming GOP because he is embracing his inner liberal?

Your anger is misplaced.



My anger is directed at a total,waste of a opportunity to try and straighten the course of this country. Trump is a loon but for GD sake couldn't he and the leaders of the R party put their dicks away and actually accomplish something? Actually put into action the conservative principles that they ran on, got elected on, and are what their constituents want from them.

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