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uwApoligist

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Obummer was spending $18,972 on each illegal immigrant child.  Many American families struggle to make $4,250 a month to feed themselves. 

Good thing our radical leftist exited stage left.  That boils my blood. 
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Obummer was spending $18,972 on each illegal immigrant child.  Many American families struggle to make $4,250 a month to feed themselves. 

Good thing our radical leftist exited stage left.  That boils my blood. 


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No illegals in Maine, Wyoming, or the Dakotas.  Or if there are, they don't spend any money on them.

Kinda surprised that my state is 6th actually.  Explains some things.
uwApoligist

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No illegals in Maine, Wyoming, or the Dakotas.  Or if there are, they don't spend any money on them.

Kinda surprised that my state is 6th actually.  Explains some things.

Everything that has a border to the south is super high.  

Now you are getting why immigration is harmful.  Dems are pooring immigrants into Atlanta neighborhoods by the millions.  So they can use those new formed voting blocks to split out those Republican out state votes.
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Crack of dawn tomorrow I'm rolling up to far Northern California for a couple job interviews. Small towns in the foothills of the Shasta-Trinity National forest. Plan is to get a job, then get 10 acres, a well, a year round creek, a tall fence.  Then get to work on growing a serious garden. 420 optional.
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That is a great day that you have scheduled, jealous
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Sounds great except for the minor detail that you are still in California
mikec

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The bigger bloc for Dems is legal immigrants.   Tons of imported high tech workers here, which is why you see a Dem get 48% in GA-6.


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Everything that has a border to the south is super high.  

Now you are getting why immigration is harmful.  Dems are pooring immigrants into Atlanta neighborhoods by the millions.  So they can use those new formed voting blocks to split out those Republican out state votes.
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Sounds great except for the minor detail that you are still in California


haha yea that is unfortunate. I could also work in Oregon, but as a prepper and one who believes in peak oil and inevitable de-industrialization over the next century, I actually like the long term aspects of the Shasta-Trinity National Forest foothills. Take a look at the Trinity Lake area sometime. And my wife doesn't have a credential in any other state except Cali, so there's that.

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Crack of dawn tomorrow I'm rolling up to far Northern California for a couple job interviews. Small towns in the foothills of the Shasta-Trinity National forest. Plan is to get a job, then get 10 acres, a well, a year round creek, a tall fence.  Then get to work on growing a serious garden. 420 optional.


Hmm. Go with the 420 med prescription, otherwise, your political enemies next door will urge the local government to steal your property and everything they can get through forfeiture because they disagree with your thought process. Rat Bastages. Move to Texas, by 20 acres, drill a well, build a few greenhouses, raise your herb, and veggies, and nobody gives a rats ass what you do or think on your own property. Strange thing to not care about whatever anybody thinks anymore.

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The reporter twists the facts to draw an incorrect conclusion.



http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-construction-trump/




The story of these two men illustrates the radical shift that has put construction front and center in the national debate over declining blue-collar jobs and President Trump’s views of immigration.

In the span of a few decades, Los Angeles area construction went from an industry that was two-thirds white, and largely unionized, to one that is overwhelmingly Latino, mostly nonunion and heavily reliant on immigrants, according to a Los Angeles Times review of federal data.


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Young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children can “rest easy,” President Donald Trump said Friday, telling the “dreamers” they will not be targets for deportation under his immigration policies.

As a candidate, Trump strongly criticized President Barack Obama for “illegal executive amnesties,” including actions that allowed young people brought to the country illegally as children to be spared from deportation. But after the election, Trump started speaking more favorably about these immigrants, popularly dubbed “dreamers.”

On Friday, he said that when it comes to them, “This is a case of heart.”

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The heart - interesting.  Remember when he, and trumpies, unmercilessly mocked Bush for saying the same thing?

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Young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children can “rest easy,” President Donald Trump said Friday, telling the “dreamers” they will not be targets for deportation under his immigration policies.

As a candidate, Trump strongly criticized President Barack Obama for “illegal executive amnesties,” including actions that allowed young people brought to the country illegally as children to be spared from deportation. But after the election, Trump started speaking more favorably about these immigrants, popularly dubbed “dreamers.”

On Friday, he said that when it comes to them, “This is a case of heart.”

You're going to confuse Bluewey.  He professes to want to deport all illegals but his two man-loves, Obama and Trump, feel differently.  Must suck to have voted for people who don't agree with what you have professed in this forum.

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The heart - interesting.  Remember when he, and trumpies, unmercilessly mocked Bush for saying the same thing?

uwApoligist

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Young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children can “rest easy,” President Donald Trump said Friday, telling the “dreamers” they will not be targets for deportation under his immigration policies.

As a candidate, Trump strongly criticized President Barack Obama for “illegal executive amnesties,” including actions that allowed young people brought to the country illegally as children to be spared from deportation. But after the election, Trump started speaking more favorably about these immigrants, popularly dubbed “dreamers.”

On Friday, he said that when it comes to them, “This is a case of heart.”

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The heart - interesting.  Remember when he, and trumpies, unmercilessly mocked Bush for saying the same thing?


To me it would still make sense to put these dreamers through a naturalization process of some kind.  I would also perfer a system that favored the productive over the non-productive, and had a fine element to help fund all of this.  The American people have been asked to carry too much of the worlds burden, unfairly.

I suspect looking at the enormity of the illegal immigration problem it has been decided to do things in efficient a manner as possible.  Getting in bound illegal immigration to drop 75% was a great start.  Getting ICE reorganized and doing their job.  Especially deporting criminals, starting with felons.  

I do not remember anyone mocking Bush for this.   Mocked Bush for a number of other items.  In b 4 you say that I no like Bush, voted for him, supported going to Iraq, supported a number of other things he did, did not like a few things he did not do well.  Mocked Obummer for this. 
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You've been consistent with your immigration stance.

However, trump ran on "throw them out".  We'll see if it impacts support.  I suppose indict Assange may be the only thing he can do that would lose him some fans.
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I do not remember anyone mocking Bush for this.   Mocked Bush for a number of other items.  In b 4 you say that I no like Bush, voted for him, supported going to Iraq, supported a number of other things he did, did not like a few things he did not do well.  Mocked Obummer for this. 

I expect pabar was talking about Jeb, not GW.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/mark_levin_trump_sounds_like_jeb_bush_when_it_comes_to_dreamers.html
uwApoligist

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You've been consistent with your immigration stance.

However, trump ran on "throw them out".  We'll see if it impacts support.  I suppose indict Assange may be the only thing he can do that would lose him some fans.

You would have to make one big assumption for this angle to have traction.  There would have to be another candidate on that republican primary stage that was going to do more about immigration than Trump.  

Just like when GW Bush ran on undoing Roe, but did not get that accomplished.  GW Bush supporters would correctly point to what he did get done, Mexico City policy, Partial birth ... and point out no one else in republican primary at the time was half as proLife as Bush was. 
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Ah.  Then it makes sense.

Jeb's would have been very soft on immigration.  He would have kept things about where they were with obummer.  People rejected that approach in the primary.
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You've been consistent with your immigration stance.

However, trump ran on "throw them out".  We'll see if it impacts support.  I suppose indict Assange may be the only thing he can do that would lose him some fans.


He also ran on "lock her up" - not going to happen
He also ran on "currency manipulator" - not going to happen
He also ran on "NATO is obsolete" - all the sudden they are not

Fortunately for him, a large part of his base doesn't really care about any of these policies, or know what they are.
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He didn't run on dropping The Mother on ISIS training grounds, killing 94 of the turds.  Illegal border crossings are down, I hear that everywhere so there's that
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You are right about the MOAB
uwApoligist

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He also ran on "lock her up" - not going to happen
He also ran on "currency manipulator" - not going to happen
He also ran on "NATO is obsolete" - all the sudden they are not

Fortunately for him, a large part of his base doesn't really care about any of these policies, or know what they are.

Ah, I see the problem now.  A fundamental non-understanding of how things work.  

As a republican in America right now, you can either allow the press to define you ala McCain, Romney, Bush, the red nose drunk, etc.  Or you can have a strategy to counter their stupidity.  Regan had an active press relations apparatus, as the press was the only conduit to the people.

In modern times, the MSM is more socialized than ever.  Working within their system has proven disastrous for more than 15 years. 

But you still have to have a good counter strategy.

So when dems start getting super salty about Drumpf is not legitimate because of 'muh popular vote' and 'muh russians', Trump quite easily deflates that message by countering that Hillary should be locked up.  The latest round of 'muh russsia' was countered by flipping the table and pointing out that Rice violated the law with all of her leaking. 

China currency manipulation was solid positioning for killing TPP, which he did before he was even seated as President.  It was also setup for any future negotiations with China, including the recent spat of negotiations that included talking to them about North Korea.  All of that seems to have been handled in top notch fashion. 

Nato was completely usless in middle east.  They had not altered their role their alignment since 1945.  The world is a completely different place.  Static allies sitting on basses in Germany has looked really dumb for more than 25 years.  Again you see here where most of what Trump wanted happened before he even sat down as President.  They created the anti terrorism units.  

Additional what NATO remains really good at, despite all their other challenges, is parking an issue when it is not something you get actively entangled in.   That the American people are not actively engaged in.  So you can send the 59 cruise missiles into Syria.  McCain and his globalist military bunch are going to start beating their war drums but going into Syria in anything but a limited capacity makes zero sense, based on the support of the American people at this time.  So you park Syria at NATO.   Hey, guess what NATO is no longer irrelevant, they have a job. 
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So which faction of trumpies are you in? Don't understand them or don't care?
uwApoligist

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Do you ever get tired of thinking you are smarter than everyone else? 

It's entertaining.

Was just trying to have friendly educational back and forth.  You don't like you can always go back to what that was you do with blue.

It is all entertaining to me.
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I took it down - shouldn't have posted it.

All you do is educate yourself, no one takes your stance on anything trump does seriously. Same as Dewey and Obama.
uwApoligist

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I took it down - shouldn't have posted it. All you do is educate yourself, no one takes your stance on anything trump does seriously. Same as Dewey and Obama.

All you do is mine salt all day.  No one takes that serious either.  Your guys loss, about time to get over that.
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You guys loss? Not sure what that means.

Hillary loss - me no loss
uwApoligist

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You guys loss? Not sure what that means. Hillary loss - me no loss

Jeb, Cruz, Rubio.  And you question the need for continuing education?
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Just think how bad Hillary would have run over Cruz or Rubio............Painful just to think about it............
TheNarrator

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Just don't know what "you guys loss" means. Funny to read that and hear someone speak about education.

They all would have beat Hillary IMO.
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