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bluedog

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Our economy is on a slide downward........It will get increasingly worse.......The voters will be looking for a turnaround........The party in office will get dumped......
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Blue - I have to say, that is the most cogent post I've ever seen from you.  You're exactly right.  Anyone who is hoping her legal battles will keep her from winning is just pissing in the wind.

The only thing that could derail your theory is that the press is going to be pro-Hillary, anti-Trump like nothing we've ever seen before in our lifetimes.

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Hillary is protected by the Fed bankers.......There's not even a chance she'll be indicted.........

Voters revolt against the party in office when the economy gets as bad as it's gonna get......The press won't be able to overcome the recession we're headed into..........That'll play right into Trump's wheelhouse.......
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We'll see.  The Clinton machine, paired with the in-the-tank-for-her press, is pretty formidable.  If they think concocting a story about Trump committing some sort of unbelievably heinous crime will take him down, they'll try it.  They won't let the truth get in their way.
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Here is my guy.  Anyone with me?

https://garyjohnson2016.com/



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Johnson doesn't have the money he'd need.......He's been around a while......
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This is what I'm talking about with Clinton and the press.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002235/

By the way, Johnson has no shot of winning.  This is a principled vote.

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Here is my guy.  Anyone with me?

https://garyjohnson2016.com/




either him or Austin Peterson.  Haven't decided yet.
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For all the talk of the party split, Democrats aren't in much better shape. The Bernie people I know want nothing to do with Hillary, and some are even talking Trump as an alternative. I wouldn't believe it if i wasn't hearing it with my own ears. 

Both Clinton and Trump have the highest unfavorables among the candidates, still. They are the most disliked candidates within their own party.

People are sick and tired of the old politics. Big Government has gotten too big. Under Clinton it will get bigger and even more invasive - if she even wins - and 2020 will be watershed election for dismantling the cronyism of the status quo... that's if Trump doesn't clear the decks this time around.

If nothing else, it's fascinating to watch, and listen to people on both sides, most of them dismayed by how this has played out.

Six months to go. Incredible.

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Anyone who hopes Trump defeats Clinton in November is obviously going to vote for him.  Denying such is only intended to keep friends and family from knowing.
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I still think there will be a 3rd party.  How viable, I don't know yet.  We will see.

Depending upon who it is, all they have to do is win a few states, and then neither Clinton nor trump get 270, and the House decides.

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I still think there will be a 3rd party.  How viable, I don't know yet.  We will see.

Depending upon who it is, all they have to do is win a few states, and then neither Clinton nor trump get 270, and the House decides.



I give you a perfect score for optimism.


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If the votes broke right, Kasich could send the election to the House by running and winning in Ohio only.

Bernie could do the same thing if he ran Independent, as his affiliation implies. 

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If the votes broke right, Kasich could send the election to the House by running and winning in Ohio only.

Bernie could do the same thing if he ran Independent, as his affiliation implies. 


If they both run, it goes to the house IMO. Would the current house vote? Or the new house?
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I read up on this, but don't remember all of the details.  I think the current one, and if they can't get a consensus, some serves as interim until the new one comes in, and there is consensus.  I'll have to go reread that part of the Constitution again.

I think the wording is something like they "vote on the various candidates".  It seemed to imply, but I was unclear, if that was limited to someone who was a candidate.  I assumed it did.

Good points about Bernie and Kasich.  Wouldn't it be something to have 5 or 6 candidates, and 4 or 5 of them win a state or two, and throw the whole thing upside down.
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I give you a perfect score for optimism.



Thanks.  if none of that works out, I'll write in me, so I can check "Run for President" off the bucket list.
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Any white male liberal who votes for clinton in November is obviously gay.


Agreed. And I don't think a woman has the necessary temperament to be president.  

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the necessary temperament to be president.  


surely not the bloody pantsuit, she gets too rattled and she shrieks.  Two poor choices we have been given,

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I think a Woman, even Margret Thatcher, is a a disadvantage when dealing with any foreign leader from the ME. They don't consider women to be of any importance at all. They would consider Hillary weaker than Bow Down to the King Obama.
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the necessary temperament to be president.  


surely not the bloody pantsuit, she gets too rattled and she shrieks.  Two poor choices we have been given,


And I can't shake the feeling that she's just running to try to convince me that she is more than just an ignored wife who's husband was tapping everything in sight, and who didn't have enough self-esteem to kick him in the balls and leave him. Now she needs my validation for her own sense of self-worth. That's sad, and I can't give her what she needs.

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I think a Woman, even Margret Thatcher, is a a disadvantage when dealing with any foreign leader from the ME. They don't consider women to be of any importance at all. They would consider Hillary weaker than Bow Down to the King Obama.


Exactly. It's the Law of the Jungle.

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That, and whoever has the most weapons and most fiercest warriors makes the rules. The US used to understand that, and so did the rest of the world. Not so much with a limp wrist Obama at the helm.
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LMAO, that was my plan for supporting Bernie 3rd Party.  awesome Lost
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Hey Dewey, help is on the way...
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html

Be nice to Hillary Clinton online — or risk a confrontation with her super PAC

When the Internet’s legions of Hillary hecklers steal away to chat rooms and Facebook pages to vent grievances about Clinton, express revulsion toward Clinton and launch attacks on Clinton, they now may find themselves in a surprising place – confronted by a multimillion dollar super PAC working with Clinton.

Hillary Clinton's well-heeled backers have opened a new frontier in digital campaigning, one that seems to have been inspired by some of the Internet's worst instincts. Correct the Record, a super PAC coordinating with Clinton's campaign, is spending some $1 million to find and confront  social media users who post unflattering messages about the Democratic front-runner.

In effect, the effort aims to spend a large sum of money to increase the amount of trolling that already exists online. 

The plan comes as Clinton operatives grapple with the reality that her supporters just aren’t as engaged and aggressive online as are her detractors inside and outside the Democratic Party.

The lack of engagement is one of Clinton’s bigger tactical vulnerabilities, particularly when compared with rivals like Donald Trump, whose viral social media attacks are legion, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is backed by a passionate army of media-savvy millennials.

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I think I ran into one of these trolls on Twitter. I had replied to something about Benghazi and Stevens, and this guy pops up and kept posting memes about Bush and Iraq. Within a few minutes, several of his 200 followers had liked and retweeted his memes. Even got another meme from him this morning for good measure.

Now that I know what they call themselves - "InCorrect the Record" - it's time to create a hashtag back, maybe 

#DestroyTheRecords ??

[rofl]

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I've been hit by those people from Clinton and trump.  I had one of trump's sons add to me a list. I had one post, and like FIB, I had around 200 spammers all over me in minutes.

with Clinton, it was only about 50.  I guess she's building her org.

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I think I ran into one of these trolls on Twitter. I had replied to something about Benghazi and Stevens, and this guy pops up and kept posting memes about Bush and Iraq. Within a few minutes, several of his 200 followers had liked and retweeted his memes. Even got another meme from him this morning for good measure.

Now that I know what they call themselves - "InCorrect the Record" - it's time to create a hashtag back, maybe 

#DestroyTheRecords ??

[rofl]
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The difference between the Trump trolls and the Clinton trolls is that the Trumpkins are organic, while Clinton's are highly organized and paid by a multi-million dollar PAC. You know, like those PACs she claims she wants to do away with by gutting the First Amendment.

The Clinton PAC is paying people to attack and harass you online. Part of her plan to unite all Americans, apparently.


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