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keepinitreal

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
EarlyGrayce

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Been waiting to so if anyone is gonna jump on this bodacious thread. I'm in the heart of northern Cali grow country. Everyone here seems relaxed.
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Btw KIR sweet lead off with the Barry-in-the-Hat hitting the roach shot. A primary reason I voted for that scoundrel. TWICE.
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Everyone has their reasons, but smoking dope is not a trait I look for in a POTUS candidate.
keepinitreal

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Everyone has their reasons, but smoking dope is not a trait I look for in a POTUS candidate.


Even if they don't inhale?

Did you vote for Bill?

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Btw KIR sweet lead off with the Barry-in-the-Hat hitting the roach shot. A primary reason I voted for that scoundrel. TWICE.


That's a better reason than the white guilt for voting for him.  A lot of whiteys voted for him in 2008 because they thought a community organizer would make a good president.  Nah, because he was not an old white man.  

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
mikec

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Did you vote for Bill?


This is a joke, right?
keepinitreal

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This is a joke, right?


I did the 2nd time.  dewy always tried to pigeon hole me but he couldn't 

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I did the 2nd time.  dewy always tried to pigeon hole me but he couldn't 


nope and nope.  This election past is the first time ever not voting for the guy with (R) next to his name.
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Hey, it's 4/20, right?

http://www.ajc.com/news/local/cop-teens-partied-smoked-pot-home-grandparents-bodies-decayed/qHxty4OF7SKT8EqgdLzI8M/

After slitting Wendy and Randall Bjorge’s throats, 17-year-old Cassandra Bjorge and her boyfriend, 19-year-old Johnny Rider, threw parties and smoked pot in the grandparents’ home for days while the bodies decayed, a Gwinnett County detective said in a court hearing Wednesday.
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#JOHNNYRIDER
#REEFERMADNESS
#POTMAKESYOUKILLYOURFAMILY

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#POTMAKESYOUKILLYOURFAMILY

Seriously?  I am still dealing with bacon causes cancer announcement.
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Do you drink, mikec? If so, I can drag up story after story of drunken wife beaters, rapists, molesters, murderers, etc.
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Do you drink, mikec? If so, I can drag up story after story of drunken wife beaters, rapists, molesters, murderers, etc.


Only on occasion, and only straight bourbon.  With an ice cube sometimes.


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Good, I don't trust a man who doesn't drink. Just go easy on those who go the less violence inducing, safer route. Work keeps me from it, but that's the only thing.
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Drug use and drinking alcohol have one thing in common...........They're destructive to the lives of people.........
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Good, I don't trust a man who doesn't drink. Just go easy on those who go the less violence inducing, safer route. Work keeps me from it, but that's the only thing.


Bourbon isn't illegal
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Bourbon isn't illegal


Maybe it should be:  NIAAA

ex:  
  • An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women9) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States.
  • In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).
  • In 2010, alcohol misuse cost the United States $249.0 billion.
  • In 2012, 3.3 million deaths, or 5.9 percent of all global deaths (7.6 percent for men and 4.0 percent for women), were attributable to alcohol consumption.
  • 1,825 college students between the ages of 18 and 24 die from alcohol-related unintentional injuries, including motor-vehicle crashes.
  • 696,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 are assaulted by another student who has been drinking.
  • 97,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 report experiencing alcohol-related sexual assault or date rape.

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Bourbon isn't illegal


Since that's your criteria for okaying one thing over another - Neither is abortion. 
mikec

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I am not involved with abortion.  I don't see the relevance of that remark.

If you wanna spoke pot, get it legalized.  If you don't want alcohol, get it criminalized.

BTW - do you think there would be similar stats for marijuana if it were legalized nationwide?
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Relevant in that you seem to say that whether something's legal means it's better for our society.  I didn't realize you were indifferent on abortion.  My mistake.

To answer your question, my experience is that men don't smoke a joint and then beat their wives, while many get drunk and do.  I don't believe pot induces violence like alcohol.

My, and I believe kir's, point is that if alcohol is legal, with all we know about its dangers, why is pot illegal when statistics show it's less dangerous?
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Bourbon isn't illegal

Careful.  Nor is pot, where I live.
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BTW - do you think there would be similar stats for marijuana if it were legalized nationwide?

Nope.  You just do not see the uptake on pot, even when it is legalized.  At least we did not see it in our state.  Most of the people that are smoking pot, are already doing before legalization.   Legalization only grew actual numbers by a few small percentage points. 

In many many states law enforcement is very lax about marijuana charges. 
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Hold up there cowboy.

I never something is better for society because it's legal or not.  You're reading too much into it.

I did say if you want something to be legal, then work to make it so.  Until then, it's illegal.

I would think that "men who beat their wives" may do so with or without intoxicants of any kind, but might feel more emboldened with the intoxicants, be they drugs or alcohol.

As for abortion - that's a deflection, and not relevant.


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Relevant in that you seem to say that whether something's legal means it's better for our society.  I didn't realize you were indifferent on abortion.  My mistake.

To answer your question, my experience is that men don't smoke a joint and then beat their wives, while many get drunk and do.  I don't believe pot induces violence like alcohol.

My, and I believe kir's, point is that if alcohol is legal, with all we know about its dangers, why is pot illegal when statistics show it's less dangerous?
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Is it not against federal law?

State legalization of marijuana is akin to state illegalization of deportation.

Just because Obama didn't give a flip doesn't make it legal, which I think is what Sessions is after.


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Careful.  Nor is pot, where I live.
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Hold up there cowboy.  I'm deeply offended.  You're thinking kir.

I never something is better for society because it's legal or not.  You're reading too much into it.  Because you're adding too much into it.  We were comparing the harm to society.

I did say if you want something to be legal, then work to make it so.  Until then, it's illegal.  Being done as we type.

I would think that "men who beat their wives" may do so with or without intoxicants of any kind, but might feel more emboldened with the intoxicants, be they drugs or alcohol.  This sentence reminds me of our long lost moderator.

As for abortion - that's a deflection, and not relevant.  Deflection from what?


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Legalization only grew actual numbers by a few small percentage points. 

Percentage points come in different sizes? haha
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State legalization of marijuana is akin to state illegalization of deportation.

It is not just that obummer did not give a flip.  It is that 60% of America believes it should be legal.  http://www.gallup.com/poll/196550/support-legal-marijuana.aspx.  You could not get enough political will to override states desires on pot.  Just a reality.

Illegal immigration is more and more viewed as a political move by one party remain relevant in the face of a changing society.   America is clearly leaning more and more fiscally conservative.  As long as those 2 trends, pols that support backdoor illegal immigration will find themselves under increasing pressure.

The one push back that used to prop up the dems illegal immigration crowd was the globalist rinos that took tons of money from the chamber of commerce.  Even their support is largely out the door as they realize all that cheap labor they are wanting to take advantage comes with a massive downside in free education, free healthcare, free this, free that, and those immigrates supporting dems efforts to get more free stuff flowing.
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