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EarlyGrayce

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I just wonder when the other 2 players who were involved and the video looking like a Cheech and Chong movie they sent out on social media comes to light?



Do tell.

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Some of you folks have CLEARLY never smoked pot. Always funny to hear people talk about pot who have no experience with it. Such folks would do their credibility a favor by not opining about something they are obviously profoundly ignorant of.
1. Gateway drug? You can't be serious. How many people smoke pot? How many people have even tried heroin just once? Now tell me again how one leads to the other when such a small percentage make the leap.
2. Pot ruins lives? I concede it has certainly affected some people negatively. Every one of my closest friends in high school smoked pot. One of them has his own financial consulting business in Westwood. Two of them are now electrical engineers working on rather high tech stuff, one of them has his MSEE. I too am an engineer. I guess devil weed robbed us of all our ambition and energy and made us stupid.
3. Driving high on pot is so dangerous? Again, I'm quite certain pot has caused accidents. I have driven high on pot hundreds of times. It does not compare with the affects of alcohol. Not close. I've driven on vicodin. Much more dangerous than driving on pot.
4. Pot is so unhealthy? Went to our family doctor 2 years ago (also a surgeon). He explained why smoking pot was not nearly as bad for your body as alcohol. He convinced me. My older brother smoked pot his whole life. He died at the age of 45 from long term alcohol use. Pot had nothing to do with his untimely demise and he smoked more than anyone I have ever known.

People should be accountable. If you break the law or team rules then you deserve consequences. Beyond that, meh.


Scupino

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Want to see what Auburn does with these 3
No thread when Purdue booted Summer Constable
Am I right?
Melissa12177

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A lot of you are missing the big picture here. It isn't just about if smoking pot is good or bad. The fact is that college athletes are held to a higher standard than just every day people out smoking a blunt after work or whatever. The fact is that these girls signed a contract that they would not be doing these things and they broke that contract. If this were a job that had rules about not using drugs while being an employee and you broke those rules, you would be fired. That is the bottom line. Stop makjng excuses and face the facts, the Fagans are nothing but trouble and are not role models I would want for my young daughter!
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A lot of you are missing the big picture here. It isn't just about if smoking pot is good or bad. The fact is that college athletes are held to a higher standard than just every day people out smoking a blunt after work or whatever. The fact is that these girls signed a contract that they would not be doing these things and they broke that contract. If this were a job that had rules about not using drugs while being an employee and you broke those rules, you would be fired. That is the bottom line. Stop makjng excuses and face the facts, the Fagans are nothing but trouble and are not role models I would want for my young daughter!



!00%...plus I love all the pot apologists.
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Some of you folks have CLEARLY never smoked pot. Always funny to hear people talk about pot who have no experience with it. Such folks would do their credibility a favor by not opining about something they are obviously profoundly ignorant of.
1. Gateway drug? You can't be serious. How many people smoke pot? How many people have even tried heroin just once? Now tell me again how one leads to the other when such a small percentage make the leap.
2. Pot ruins lives? I concede it has certainly affected some people negatively. Every one of my closest friends in high school smoked pot. One of them has his own financial consulting business in Westwood. Two of them are now electrical engineers working on rather high tech stuff, one of them has his MSEE. I too am an engineer. I guess devil weed robbed us of all our ambition and energy and made us stupid.
3. Driving high on pot is so dangerous? Again, I'm quite certain pot has caused accidents. I have driven high on pot hundreds of times. It does not compare with the affects of alcohol. Not close. I've driven on vicodin. Much more dangerous than driving on pot.
4. Pot is so unhealthy? Went to our family doctor 2 years ago (also a surgeon). He explained why smoking pot was not nearly as bad for your body as alcohol. He convinced me. My older brother smoked pot his whole life. He died at the age of 45 from long term alcohol use. Pot had nothing to do with his untimely demise and he smoked more than anyone I have ever known.

People should be accountable. If you break the law or team rules then you deserve consequences. Beyond that, meh.




What are your thoughts on the articles as about current pot being as much as 3X more potent?
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I am wondering just what brought the cops into the picture? Were they out in a park or something? Or did a neighbor turn them in? Or a teammate knew what was going on? Or did coach know what was going on?
Most coaches have a way of knowing.
I admit that there is a double standard for women. If coach is finally fed up, will be the thing to watch.
As for myself, I knew the rules and abided by them. These young ladies knew those rules, too.

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I am wondering just what brought the cops into the picture? Were they out in a park or something? Or did a neighbor turn them in? Or a teammate knew what was going on? Or did coach know what was going on?
Most coaches have a way of knowing.
I admit that there is a double standard for women. If coach is finally fed up, will be the thing to watch.
As for myself, I knew the rules and abided by them. These young ladies knew those rules, too.



Unless I'm mistaken, the article appears to say neighbor called.
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Great question, dietpepsi
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Marijuana may not be as benign as we tend to believe.  My uncle recently died of pneumonia  and he was a heavy pot smoker for years.  Although he quit about 10 years ago, the pot took a long term toll on his lungs, I do believe.  I also had a friend die of lung cancer before she was 40 years old. Like my uncle, she didn't smoke cigarettes, but did smoke pot daily. Sad, sad sad.
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Let those who are without sin cast the first bong.
Devin22

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So Haley is 22 and the other 2 are 19 and underclassmen. hmmm...Wonder if someone was leading the way...Well, all three got arrested which probably means that all three had something "on their person"....
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What are your thoughts on the articles as about current pot being as much as 3X more potent?


I can absolutely confirm that pot is waaaaay more potent now than it was in the 70s. The affects are no different, you just need to smoke less. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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To me it's not about whether pot is unhealthy, dangerous, even illegal.  They disrespected their teammates, coaches, and university by breaking a rather serious team rule.  They proved their word to be of no value and that they lack the self discipline to abstain for a couple more months.  They knowingly placed their personal pleasure in front of the team's mission and betrayed their commitment to their teammates.  In a nutshell, its a character issue.

As a member and coach of that team, are you willing to accept that?  I think their teammates should have some input in the ultimate disposition of these three.  The team belongs to the players.  

   
Melissa12177

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So personal feelings aside about if pot is ok or not, do these girls get kicked off the team, suspended for the rest of the season or just sit out one weekend?
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Want to see what Auburn does with these 3 No thread when Purdue booted Summer Constable Am I right?


Not an expert on the subject, but I am pretty sure Summer Constable was a repeat offender (alcohol) when she was dismissed from the Purdue softball team, and Purdue is not in the NCAA Top-10, and one of their assistant coaches did not recently resign under a cloud of allegations of inappropriate relationships with players.  Mugshots are also the darling of social media and the only time the cops were involved with Summer was when she was arrested the summer before she enrolled.
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A lot of you are missing the big picture here. It isn't just about if smoking pot is good or bad. The fact is that college athletes are held to a higher standard than just every day people out smoking a blunt after work or whatever. The fact is that these girls signed a contract that they would not be doing these things and they broke that contract. If this were a job that had rules about not using drugs while being an employee and you broke those rules, you would be fired. That is the bottom line. Stop makjng excuses and face the facts, the Fagans are nothing but trouble and are not role models I would want for my young daughter!


 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?


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Marijuana may not be as benign as we tend to believe.  My uncle recently died of pneumonia  and he was a heavy pot smoker for years.  Although he quit about 10 years ago, the pot took a long term toll on his lungs, I do believe.  I also had a friend die of lung cancer before she was 40 years old. Like my uncle, she didn't smoke cigarettes, but did smoke pot daily. Sad, sad sad.


at one time researchers said Pot had several times more tar than Cigarettes. Maybe they do science differently now, like they do math differently. [smile] I'd think that would have an affect on someone's health.

sorry for your losses by the way.
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The police showed photos of the undercover operation similar to that nabbed the suspects

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/249681630-story
PH2

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Can we merge this thread with the "does she replant" thread? [biggrin]
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 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?



I for one would be fired from my job for smoking pot.  It was made very clear when I hired on.  

There are jobs that require security clearances and if you lose that by smoking pot, you lose your job!!!  NOT MAKING IT UP!!!
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 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?



Ive seen literally dozens, if not a 100+ people lose their jobs for popping hot on a urinalysis.
And lose really good paying jobs for it. Besides that a conviction for illegal drugs will end someones chances at getting a Security clearance.
So will a DUI.

lovsofbal

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Ive seen literally dozens, if not a 100+ people lose their jobs for popping hot on a urinalysis.
And lose really good paying jobs for it. Besides that a conviction for illegal drugs will end someones chances at getting a Security clearance.
So will a DUI.



I've seen quite a few as well.
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 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?



Lmao, yea ok......
ChinMusic

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 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?



Yes they do.  Department of Transportation regulated jobs.
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Ive seen literally dozens, if not a 100+ people lose their jobs for popping hot on a urinalysis.
And lose really good paying jobs for it. Besides that a conviction for illegal drugs will end someones chances at getting a Security clearance.
So will a DUI.




Wow. You've seen some really dumb people. Masking pot for a urinalysis is extremely easy. Why do you think so few pro athletes test positive for pot compared to the number who smoke? Have you seen NFL players talk about pot use and how much it is used/needed to deal with non-stop pain? I suspect the next NFL contract will include relaxed pot sanctions.

I smoked pot heavily, daily for the first 5 or 6 years after I graduated when I worked for a major defense contractor. I was tested and never tested positive. My friend got a DUI and did not get fired though it was a PITA because he had to do periodic drug/alcohol testing after that to keep his secret clearance.

People do lose jobs over pot use but I suspect the number of cases has and will continue to drop as pot use continues to gain acceptance by the general public, including people making hiring/employment decisions.
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at one time researchers said Pot had several times more tar than Cigarettes. Maybe they do science differently now, like they do math differently. [smile] I'd think that would have an affect on someone's health.

sorry for your losses by the way.


No doubt.  But people don't smoke 20 - 40 doobies a day.
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 People don't get fired from their job for smoking pot. Why do you people make stuff up?



Wow....definitely in the running for the dumbest post in the history of UCS.

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So personal feelings aside about if pot is ok or not, do these girls get kicked off the team, suspended for the rest of the season or just sit out one weekend?
Not if it's left up to Myers. At ASU he had a player who had a dui accident that sent a woman to the hospital and only missed a couple of weekends. She was reinstated after a couple of losses. He had another player with multiple DUI's that was never kicked off of the team. Not to mention another assistant coach who while married had an affair with a player on the team. 
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I can absolutely confirm that pot is waaaaay more potent now than it was in the 70s. The affects are no different, you just need to smoke less. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Only if that's why you're a blind squirrel.[biggrin]
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