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"Gun owner" the point you agree with.
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Gun owner who killed his wife over a divorce. Maybe more things involved than we know. Crime of passion it would seem. Happens every day in America and all over the world as well. Gun, knife, machete, axe, hammer, automobile, poison. All lethal weapons widely available and used to commit murder every day. Every stinking day.
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Mostly guns. Almost always, guns. Machete murders are at an all time low in Georgia. Can't get much lower than zero. One would be a machete crime wave. 
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I believe Woody specified world wide. Looking at it that way there are actually quite a few “machete murders” occurring on a daily basis/
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Not a big problem in Georgia. If I move to Colombia, I'll take note. I'm kind of worried about gun murders in the United States.
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Then perhaps the democrat controlled cities with the tightest gun restrictions should reanalyze their approach to the problem. Maybe try arresting and incarcerating the perps instead of letting them walk time and time again.
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Maybe making gun owners responsible for crimes committed with their weapons would help. Every gun should be tracked and the owner should be responsible when it's used in a crime. Agree?
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No I do not. If I have a gun safe in my house and someone breaks in and steals it I do not feel I am responsible for the guns after that point in time. Since you feel that way and there would never be a 100% guaranteed way to prevent a theft it just shows that the ultimate goal is to remove the guns from personal possession. That would be the only way to prevent their theft
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Maybe making gun owners responsible for crimes committed with their weapons would help. Every gun should be tracked and the owner should be responsible when it's used in a crime. Agree?


Do you get this torqued when, say, 3 black guys murder a woman waiting in the drive through at Wendy's in a failed carjacking attempt?

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How would a gun be stolen from a well built safe? Come on, those things are tough enough to make it counter productive. You can't pick it up and move it. You're not being honest.
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I know people that have gone to great expense to construct gun vaults at their homes. Not gun safes, but full blown armored vaults with bank grade doors. They didn't do it just to stop the feral people from stealing their guns and selling them in Chicago and other gun control states. They did it because they have half a million or more invested in firearms and are protecting their investment. It's not like the local savings and loan is going to lease you a 20x20 space in their vault to stockpile hunting rifles, collectible weapons, class 3 weapons, and other modern weapons platforms. These people don't own an AR-15 and a pistol or two. Each of these people own hundreds of weapons, and some of them are of rare historical value. They just don't want the local tribal elements walking away with their property. Of course they all still have pistols and shotguns in easy reach in multiple areas the house for self defense. People living out in the middle of nowhere don't have a cop walking around the block, or live in a guarded and gated community.
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How many of those guns get stolen?
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Not one so far. I have a really good gun safe in my home for higher end weapons, but it isn't fail proof. With the tools on my work truck, I could open any average, or even high end  "gun safe" in less than 4 minutes. A gun safe is only going to deter average break and enter, snatch and grab feral animals. I have jimmy jammers a high end alarm and kill switch on my work truck. I even have a gun vault with a dial lock in my trucks center console to stop the snatch and grab people. Again, I could defeat it in a matter of seconds with the proper tools, but it's purpose is to slow them down. They will move on to the next vehicle. I can't stop bad people from stealing things in my absence, but I can slow them down and deter them. On the other hand, should I be present when they decide to go feral, shame on them.
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I thought you owned guns to stop criminals from taking your stuff? How do they help if the guns are what they want to steal? You should be required to keep up with your guns, period. If you allow criminals to take your guns, you are aiding and abetting them. What should be the minimum requirement for gun owners to make a reasonable effort to stop thieves from stealing their guns? Face it, you don't want guns to support your right to protect yourself in a militia, you just want them because you like them. 
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I thought you owned guns to stop criminals from taking your stuff? How do they help if the guns are what they want to steal? You should be required to keep up with your guns, period. If you allow criminals to take your guns, you are aiding and abetting them. What should be the minimum requirement for gun owners to make a reasonable effort to stop thieves from stealing their guns? Face it, you don't want guns to support your right to protect yourself in a militia, you just want them because you like them. 


criminals gonna criminal.   not my fault they do.

do you watch the local news at all?  it's a 30 minute litany of murder, followed by a little sports and weather.


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How many guns have you ever had stolen from you? I assume you are a responsible owner.
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Never a one. Nobody in my family, aunts, ungles, cousins, 100s, never a gun stolen.

Murders in an area are almost always committed by the same guns.  More than 80% are caused by under 1% of the guns.  The same guns are used over and over and over.    It is a myth that criminals are stealing home owners guns.  Most of these are purchased.

Liberal crap holes fail to implement simple systems that identify these guns and aggressively arrest anyone caught with one of these guns.  Why they fail at this is a mystery. 

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"He started crying like a little baby"




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It was a full metal jacket and it went through the bag and he cried like a baby.
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That boy has game
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Mass shooter in Maryland yesterday was Transgender.  Shooter had a feeling of being 'alienated' and 'wanting to pick a fight'

You thinking Dem?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6192109/Friends-say-Maryland-Rite-Aid-shooter-transgender-felt-alienated-wasnt-monster.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

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transgender = confused = dem
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Mass shooter in Maryland yesterday was Transgender.  Shooter had a feeling of being 'alienated' and 'wanting to pick a fight'

You thinking Dem?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6192109/Friends-say-Maryland-Rite-Aid-shooter-transgender-felt-alienated-wasnt-monster.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490


Now we know why they made no comments and kazoo has been absent this morning. duaine and freshy would be all over it if it had been anything other than a confused tranny

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Then perhaps the democrat controlled cities with the tightest gun restrictions should reanalyze their approach to the problem. Maybe try arresting and incarcerating the perps instead of letting them walk time and time again.


Yea, man: There is a CLEAR way to eliminate URBAN gun violence--ban handguns: no manufacture, no sale, no trade, no import. The U.S. would become a VASTLY SAFER place--and all the sheriff wannabes living in low-crime areas in America wouldn't need /their/ guns for imaginary self-defense. You'd be for a ban on handguns, wouldn't you, since conservatives are always decrying crime?

What? No? If not, it just shows what frauds and hypocrites conservatives are. 

Gun restrictions in cities/states don't work because guns are easy to carry across state lines--and frequently are. 

In the end, conservatives and the GOP don't care about enhancing the safety of Americans. They aren't interesting in doing ANYTHING of benefit to Americans if it inconveniences some company's ability to make a buck. 


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Now we know why they made no comments and kazoo has been absent this morning. duaine and freshy would be all over it if it had been anything other than a confused tranny


Who cares, moron: He, she, it was a troubled American with a gun--ANOTHER troubled American with a gun. There are huge numbers of Americans with mental issues of one kind or another, as I've often said and as is absolutely clear, and so when you combine that fact with a country that is stupidly awash in guns--easily acquirable guns--you get the epidemic of mass shootings and gun violence that we have in this country. In response, all we get is nonsense from Republican pols, who in truth don't give a $hit about gun violence because they're stupid and callous and afraid of the NRA and losing their cushy job in Washington. Motto of GOP Pols: "I'm comfortable, why should I care?" 



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Kaplooey vented this
Gun restrictions in cities/states don't work because guns are easy to carry across state lines--and frequently.
His talking point has been disproved. The guns used in Chicago are NOT coming from out of state What else you got. Also how come the states that border Illinois do not have the high numbers of shootings since guns are easily obtained there. It ain’t the guns stupid, it’s the thugs. Of course liberals get the vapors when we try and incarcerate them.

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classic kazoo inbred logic, take the guns away from those who can use them and are qualified, to try and prevent the confused trannies from using them.  Mental health has been a protected right for the libtards for 40 years, the more the better #Maxinewaters
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Kazoo, why we not just get rid of mentally anguished dems.  That seems it would solve the problem.
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As far as inner city, they already have massive gun laws, so pretty sure either:
- they do not have guns as you report,
- or, they could give to craps about your laws regardless of how many laws you have. 

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There are huge numbers of Americans with mental issues of one kind or another, 



You lead the pack Tennessee inbred

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