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kazoo

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Arming teachers--a redneck/NRA-perpetuated idiotic idea if ever there was one. Since when should gun manufacturers decide gun laws in America? You southerners are so easy to play....Let's stop pushing the insane notion that if you buy a gun, you must be a responsible, well-adjusted individuals. That's the type of stupid thinking that defines right-wingers. There are a huge number of maladjusted people in this country--a huge number of people with mental issues of one type or another--a fact that seems to escape all the Bubbas who've been led to believe that everyone should walk around with a gun. You don't make gun ownership easy in a country full of troubled people. But we do--and that is why there are, on average, 31 people murdered with a gun every day in America. 

Poll the teachers in America and see what percentage want to carry a gun. A recent Gallup poll found that 75 percent of U.S. teachers do not want to carry guns. Teachers tend to be bright individuals--unlike the people who think that teachers should carry guns. The NRA is a lobbying group for gun manufacturers--which want to sell guns. They are not interested in public safety. Stop letting the gun lobby manipulate your itzy-bitzy brains.

Gallup https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/03/22/595648318/poll-most-u-s-teachers-want-gun-control-not-guns-to-carry


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Originally Posted by kazoo

Arming teachers--a redneck/NRA-perpetuated idiotic idea if ever there was one. Since when should gun manufacturers decide gun laws in America? You southerners are so easy to play....Let's stop pushing the insane notion that if you buy a gun, you must be a responsible, well-adjusted individuals. That's the type of stupid thinking that defines right-wingers. There are a huge number of maladjusted people in this country--a huge number of people with mental issues of one type or another--a fact that seems to escape all the Bubbas who've been led to believe that everyone should walk around with a gun. You don't make gun ownership easy in a country full of troubled people. But we do--and that is why there are, on average, 31 people murdered with a gun every day in America. 

Poll the teachers in America and see what percentage want to carry a gun. A recent Gallup poll found that 75 percent of U.S. teachers do not want to carry guns. Teachers tend to be bright individuals--unlike the people who think that teachers should carry guns. The NRA is a lobbying group for gun manufacturers--which want to sell guns. They are not interested in public safety. Stop letting the gun lobby manipulate your itzy-bitzy brains.

Gallup https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/03/22/595648318/poll-most-u-s-teachers-want-gun-control-not-guns-to-carry



After reading my reply, you should return to your Psych's office for renewals on your meds. Your gibberish is enough for anyone to discern that you are the maladjusted one among us. Read this twice punk: I am a southerner, not a Bubba nor a right-winger, though I am conservative in my ideals and, until you can make me say 'uncle' there are just a few areas of life you can excel in versus me. I will out-earn you, make stronger anything you can make, easily kick your butt more times than your wildest dreams would have you feel about me. I am the better man than you could hope to be and have done things you would tuck your tail and run away from. You are in all actuality as close to a vagina as any non-female could be. More than likely, anywhere you have been, anything you have tried to accomplish has reasonable folks laughing at the stains on the clothing that covers your butt. To cut to the chase numb-nuts, you are a chasm America needs to fill with other bodies with liberal like-minded thinking, as you possess and dumped in the ocean. You know in your heart of hearts you are a schmuckless male. Wanna carry this further, then write back to me without your tears on the stationary and let us make way to meeting the other. If so, buy an additional lunch box. 

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spazsdad

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Vance is powned. Just like at the glory hole in the park bathroom
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keepinitreal

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Come on Vance kazoo tough guy. The man said you're a vagina, he didn't say you were a pretty one. You're just a vagina
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spazsdad

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Hey Woody, what’s your opinion on the mini Draco
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woody

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I have an employee that had one. It’s like most AK variants. Stamped receiver, minimal parts so that they can be cheaply and quickly produced. They make a smaller version, the Micro with a shorter barrel. I think it has a 6” barrel and looks more like a pistol with a big receiver. The one thing I remember about the mini when my employee was shoting it was the muzzle blast and rise when shooting multiple shots. He sold it, and bought a full sized AR. It looked like fun to shoot, but he wasn’t able to shoot it with any accuracy. I guess if you wanted a truck gun, the micro would be more compact.
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All AK's always have lots of shake and rise to them.  Could not imagine a short barrel. 
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You are finally finding success on your march for gun control.  Bump stocks are banned.  Whoppie doodlers gone.  People are actually going for your crying/determined/shaved headed/gay looking highschool bullhit. 

Then ... this blocks your path: 

[1525919072080]  What do?
spazsdad

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Mossberg has cut ties with Dickless sporting goods.
I know what brand my nexr shotgun will be

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Lots of LEO used to use Mossberg as their duty shotguns. There is something I noticed recently, and maybe someone can offer an answer. In the 70-90's, almost every county Sheriff, and local town, and big city Policeman in Texas had a 12 gauge Mossberg pump shotgun mounted in a carry rack standing up in between the front seats. I haven't seen that in a while. I have seen a lot of recent news footage of LEO opening their trunks, and pulling out AR-15's, but I don't see the shotguns mounted at arms reach in every patrol car like I used to. What's up with that? Public perception, or what? I always perceived it as a pretty smart ideal to have a 12 gauge within reach. Did they sacrafice the gun and mount for a laptop computer mount?
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When my Remington shotgun was stolen, I bought 2 home defense shotguns a 12 and a 20 and they were both Mossbergs.  Good for them and I may buy another at Academy
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Lots of LEO used to use Mossberg as their duty shotguns. There is something I noticed recently, and maybe someone can offer an answer. In the 70-90's, almost every county Sheriff, and local town, and big city Policeman in Texas had a 12 gauge Mossberg pump shotgun mounted in a carry rack standing up in between the front seats. I haven't seen that in a while. I have seen a lot of recent news footage of LEO opening their trunks, and pulling out AR-15's, but I don't see the shotguns mounted at arms reach in every patrol car like I used to. What's up with that? Public perception, or what? I always perceived it as a pretty smart ideal to have a 12 gauge within reach. Did they sacrafice the gun and mount for a laptop computer mount?

I don't think it is the laptop in the way.  They could just as easily put both the AR and the shotgun in the trunk and pull the one they need.

Honestly I think there are 2 factors.  The AR is possibly the greatest platform ever built (so far).  So versatile.  Yeah if you are in super tight hallways and a few corners you might be wishing for a shorter barrel.   But really that is like 2 out of every 1000 corners.  By the time you tighten to where an AR is a problem, it is a problem even for shorter barrel shotguns.

The flip side being the assailant has something with some range, and you cannot even lay down cover on him, then you are truly f'd.  The range for cover fire on an AR is way out there.  I mean you can probably reach 600 maybe 700 yards for reasonably effective cover fire.   You keep the guys head down.  Your buddies show up with their ARs, go get some angle work their way under cover to 300-250 yds.  Goodnight bad guy it is over. 

Short in, the 9 has just become such a great service weapon.  Dependable.  With modern bullets, going to pack more than enough punch.  You can drop a 20 or even 30 round mag in, or work on your quick mag change skills. 

Even in the service.  Used to be all the house sweeps showed guys with shotguns, or maybe a ppsh-41s or thompsons.  Now you watch house sweeps and they are almost always using ARs and 9mm pistols. 

It is not uncommon in Iraq and Afghanistan for 3 AR's to go up against 10 or 12 AK's.  All of the AR's come home, none of the AK's.  Some of that is training.  But a lot is the AK just gives up so many yards, especially as rate of fire (dynamic speed of fight) goes up.  Effective cover fire for an AK is like 250-300 yards. 

Watch Restrepo, Korengol or other live action battle movie documentaries from Iraq or Afghanistan.   You will regularly see the Americans often being pretty sloppy on maintaining cover.  You will see the other side tucked up super tight, only moving when/where they can stay super tight to their cover. 



keepinitreal

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Very interesting take
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
woody

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There also may be a center console in the way of a gun mount. They aren't driving around in Plymouth Fury land barges any more.
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When the rubber meets the road, I don't give two da_ns what weapon or what it's name is. Just fire a few off first.
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Randomly chunking lead down range, or spray and pray wouldn't be my first choice.
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Randomly chunking lead down range, or spray and pray wouldn't be my first choice.


Seems evident that when the bad guy approaches you and draws first, you would rather take the time to 2nd. guess yourself. Friend that don't fly in my world. In peacetime I've never had the occasion to be in that event. While serving in bad country....... Well,,,, I'm here and he/they ain't.

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Not second guessing at all. I’m attempting to make a couple of good shots that are center mass instead of dumping a magazine. I would urge anyone that normally shoots at the range, to make a trip to a location you can shoot at night. Doesn’t matter if it’s a pistol with a light/laser, or a shotgun, or AR platform with a light, it,s completely different. Depth perception and peripheral vision are shot, and you will usually wind up using the light as a sight the first time instead of your optics or iron if you aren’t accustomed to shooting under these conditions. I wouldn’t advise having only range time, and then have your first experience shooting at night during the stress of a crisis situation.
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Full page add in the OKC paper.



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81% is too high a number, probably even in ny or chi. Can't imagine that's even in the realm of the possible in ok.
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Quick lefties - identify this gun.

Kent State University graduate, Kaitlin Bennett, went viral for taking a parting shot at her school's anti-gun policy Sunday.

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That’s a weapon of war if I ever saw one
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Too lazy to find an old thread for this but the pussy cop that sat on his manpon while 17 kids got shot has been collecting his $8700 a month pension since April
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Quick lefties - identify this gun.

Kent State University graduate, Kaitlin Bennett, went viral for taking a parting shot at her school's anti-gun policy Sunday.

Why that is a skeery gun. Of Course.
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Seize the moment!  Go buy another gun today!!  Join the NRA or make a donation!  There's been another school shooting!  9 more children have lost their lives!

It will be interesting to see what gun law "reforms" the TX governor will propose - if any.  A "roundtable discussion" sounds like a week attempt at appeasing those who truly want to see some effective reforms.

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Time for more security at our schools (metal detectors, police, etc.).  I thought our leaders were moving in this direction but little appears to have been done.  Not sure why.  At the same time, I'm thankful this shooter's Dad apparently had no AR-15 at home.  We may have had 30 killed today.
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Seize the moment!  Go buy another gun today!!  Join the NRA or make a donation!  There's been another school shooting!  9 more children have lost their lives!

It will be interesting to see what gun law "reforms" the TX governor will propose - if any.  A "roundtable discussion" sounds like a week attempt at appeasing those who truly want to see some effective reforms.

Buy gun - check
Join NRA - already checked, so I bought several more memberships for friend, double check

You saw the part where that kid used improvised explosives (IEDs). pressure cooker and pipe bombs correct?  Going to blame that on the NRA as well?

What are you going to say when reports start to surface that people have been telling everyone this kid is showing signs of extreme instability and democrat authorities chose to ignore it to improve their School not jail initiatives?
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A shotgun and a .38 revolver, hardly a state of art weapon of war. 



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It will be interesting to see what gun law "reforms" the TX governor will propose - if any.  A "roundtable discussion" sounds like a week attempt at appeasing those who truly want to see some effective reforms.


We won't be doing any of that

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Seize the moment!  Go buy another gun today!!  Join the NRA or make a donation!  There's been another school shooting!  9 more children have lost their lives!


We'll be doing more of that

My bad, fixed

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Time for more security at our schools (metal detectors, police, etc.).  I thought our leaders were moving in this direction but little appears to have been done.


This is the first time, under any of your 5 handles that you have mentioned such a thing.  You and the freshyturd have been trying to grab guns away from the good guys.  Never once did you recommend common sense gun measures.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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