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CoachB25

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We had two show up last week in my backyard.  Neighbor has one of those one bite snack size dogs.  The thing is, they don't seem to be afraid.  I rid us of the pack that was out back a year or two ago.  Neighbor asked me if I was up to it.  YUP!  I'll be taking the Browning out.  The problem is, it is up at Dads.  The shotgun I have in the house just might put me on my backside.  The last time I fired it, I thought it broke every bone in my body.  It is a family heirloom and the same shotgun my grandfather saved after the "Great Paducah Flood" of 1937.    
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Got one of these for $220 on sale at academy. Put a surefire flashlight and mount on it. Runs good for a throw down gun.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/shotguns/sxp/SXP-limited-availability/sxp-dark-earth-defender.html

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I have an older pistol grip with 7 shot capacity with the same flashlight setup under the bed.
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Just picked up another suppressor, and am picking up another pig gun. I was looking at doing a conversion of a pistol to a SBR, and jumping through the Federal hoops.

https://www.realgunreviews.com/how-to-e-file-an-atf-form-1-with-eforms/

Looking at this to convert.





And finally, Army Ranger approved and tweaks requested


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Well DUH!!

Probably spent a couple million on the study.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-sheriff-dart-high-bails-20170713-story.html



In an effort to crack down on Chicago’s persistent gun violence, Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart announced Thursday his office will be alerting local police when defendants with gun charges post lucrative bonds.

The initiative follows an analysis conducted by the Sheriff’s office that discovered the communities that are most plagued by gun violence are the same communities suspected gun offenders are returning to after they post high bonds, according to a news release from the sheriff's office. From February through May, 351 alleged gun suspects posted more than $5,000 to bond out of Cook County Jail, with the sum of their bonds exceeding $3.3 million.

“Gang members arrested on gun crimes can quickly come up with thousands of dollars – often tens of thousands of dollars in cash – to get out of jail and return to the communities they continue to terrorize,” Dart said in a statement Thursday.  “We should be using the laws on the books to find out where they are getting that kind of money. This shows how our broken cash bail system permits violent offenders to return to the streets within hours while many of those who are poor are stuck behind bars on non-violent crimes.”

About 70 percent of the defendants resided in Chicago, where there appeared to a correlation between the amount posted in bail during the four-month span and the prevalence of shootings.

The top community areas where defendants posted the highest total bail amount also were among the most prone to shooting: defendants in the Austin neighborhood posted $282,000 during the study and saw 190 shootings through July 7; Auburn Gresham $160,000 and 58 shootings; North Lawndale $141,500 and 103; and South Shore 82,000 and 66 shootings, according to the release.


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They've tried raising bond amounts over the past few years, but it didn't help - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-guns-cook-county-bonds-20170127-story.html

Despite increasingly high bonds, the opposite has happened — the same group of those charged with gun crimes is getting out of jail more than twice as fast as they were four years ago, according to a Tribune analysis of jail data of arrests and bonds.

Another article explains it - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-eddie-johnson-bond-reform-met-20170507-story.html.

"Let's face it: If you had an organization, and your enforcers were your best people to get done what you wanted to do, wouldn't you spend every resource you had to keep them out?" Johnson said. "Well, gangs, they're not stupid. They need these shooters out on the street, because that's what they do — they shoot people."
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It's the same people repeatedly committing crimes and gun crimes. The Leftist Democrats that run the judiciary let's them plea bargain felony cases down to lessor offenses. Even if repeatedly convicted of violent crimes they often release these savages early, and they go right back and start killing and robbing again. Chicago deserves exactly the politicians and institutions it voted for.
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It's the same people repeatedly committing crimes and gun crimes. The Leftist Democrats that run the judiciary let's them plea bargain felony cases down to lessor offenses. Even if repeatedly convicted of violent crimes they often release these savages early, and they go right back and start killing and robbing again. Chicago deserves exactly the politicians and institutions it voted for.


You've said it before, let them kill themselves if that's what they're driven to by their city, state and federal governments [and their parents].

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What we have always known.....


http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/342386-media-shows-it-true-colors-on-guns-at-womens-march


Gun control advocates keep claiming that guns are only used to kill people and that people should just rely on the police to protect them.

But gun controllers’ actions keep showing that they don’t believe that. When it comes to their safety, they understand that guns save lives. Guns are for them, not the untrusted, unwashed masses.


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I suppose that could work in a place where you have a 1 minute response time.

Where I live, it's about 30 minutes for the Sheriff.  We have to be ready ourselves, and to help our neighbors if need be.


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What we have always known.....


http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/342386-media-shows-it-true-colors-on-guns-at-womens-march


Gun control advocates keep claiming that guns are only used to kill people and that people should just rely on the police to protect them.

But gun controllers’ actions keep showing that they don’t believe that. When it comes to their safety, they understand that guns save lives. Guns are for them, not the untrusted, unwashed masses.

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I suppose that could work in a place where you have a 1 minute response time.

Where I live, it's about 30 minutes for the Sheriff.  We have to be ready ourselves, and to help our neighbors if need be.




More from the article


Over the weekend, Women’s March leaders, such as co-president Linda Sarsour, were walking around with private armed security.

 Given that local police were already present at the demonstration, one wonders why couldn’t police provide sufficient protection?

After all, the police were just yards away, not a phone call and an eight to 10 minutes' wait for officers to arrive.

Of course, Michael Bloomberg and the executives at his Everytown for Gun Safety don’t go anywhere without their security details.

The Women’s March participants carried signs such as “Real men don’t need guns” or “Loaded guns under beds are bad,” but their actions presumably imply that at least women need guns for protection when they are out in public.

The media gives extensive negative news coverage to conservatives who are caught engaging in extramarital affairs because of the family values hypocrisy angle. The hypocrisy is said to be what makes the story newsworthy, but one will search in vain to see any of the mainstream media pointing to this hypocrisy by gun control advocates.

This hypocrisy is nothing new.


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Good thing that these things are not running around La Mirada
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with a .38 caliber revolver.  that takes some guts.
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A 22 LR could have dropped him with one shot but shot placement is critical and why take a chance? That's a huge pig. 30 Caliber or larger behind the ear is the safe bet.
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I meant as in my hands would probably be shaking, and I'd just piss it off.  That's a darn big pig to piss off.
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Yes it's a big pig. F him he's in your yard, kill his ass with a steady hand. It's a pig dude. Kill that F'r and any other ones that are with him. I was really surprised how much my Yankee wife (I've almost beat it out of her) hates on hogs. If She sees a sounder on the deer lease she goes postal. Kill all those nasty bastards. I was kind of taken aback at her hatred for swine. Whatever, if I get the opportunity I wack and stack em.
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Agreed.

I've been up on a tree stand when a herd of pigs came by.  They are obnoxious as all, and it pretty much ruins your deer hunt anyways, so might as well pick off a few of them.

They are nasty critters, and very destructive.  And, you can eat them.

Win-win.


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Yes it's a big pig. F him he's in your yard, kill his ass with a steady hand. It's a pig dude. Kill that F'r and any other ones that are with him. I was really surprised how much my Yankee wife (I've almost beat it out of her) hates on hogs. If She sees a sounder on the deer lease she goes postal. Kill all those nasty bastards. I was kind of taken aback at her hatred for swine. Whatever, if I get the opportunity I wack and stack em.
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Agreed.

I've been up on a tree stand when a herd of pigs came by.  They are obnoxious as all, and it pretty much ruins your deer hunt anyways, so might as well pick off a few of them.

They are nasty critters, and very destructive.  And, you can eat them.

Win-win.




Not that 800 pounder.  I want nothing to do with the meat from that monster

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Not that 800 pounder.  I want nothing to do with the meat from that monster


like kudzu and poison fish, it's probably a delicacy in Japan.
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If it's past the first hard freeze, and its a gilt of 40 pounds or less, I will take the time to at least cut the back straps out.
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If it's past the first hard freeze, and its a gilt of 40 pounds or less, I will take the time to at least cut the back straps out.


To add to the sausage stuffings maybe.
My uncle has eaten armadillo before but that doesn't mean I'd eat it

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I've cooked many a pig strap, and if cooked in Goya citrus marinade it's awesome. Even cooked a stinking javelina and it ate good.
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Do you marinade it for 2 weeks?

I was talking mostly about an 800 pound specimen. I've eaten hog but I like to shoot em and let em lay for the buzzards, they gotta eat too

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I wouldn't eat any boar or sow, just young gilts. Funny thing, buzzards really don't mess with dead hogs. Some say it's because the skin is too tough to penetrate with their beaks. Others say it's because buzzards have higher standards and would prefer a dead skunk. Whatever, I shoot every feral hog I can draw a bead on regardless of size.
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So whats ya'lls opinion? They are both threaded, so the new suppressor will spin right on. Not looking to break the bank, or swap out stocks/ drop in a trigger.

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/savage-arms-10-fcp-sr-bolt-action-rifle-15bnla10fcpsrcm30vgu/15bnla10fcpsrcm30vgu

https://www.gun-tests.com/gunreport_detail/9946.html

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Remington 700
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Yeah, I like the 700, it's a classic, but they had a recall on their copycat of Savage's accutrigger. I have a 7 mag with a heavy barrel, and an accutriger, and it's hole on hole accurate at over 100 yards. Of course the scope cost more than the rifle, so not an accurate comparison. Just building a subsonic pig rifle for less than 100 yards, and the Remington has the shorter barrel. Dang can is a beast, but very functional, and adaptable.

https://silencerco.com/silencers/hybrid/

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That 308 is going to have a bit more distance and bullet mass.    

The real advantage of the 223 is in full or semi auto.  No recoil, you can carry 3x the ammo of the bigger rounds, still enough take down, not a hand gun round (nine).  Since you are not looking at full auto, or semi auto you are not really taking advantage of what the 223 is built.



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I am planning on shooting subsonic ammo out of this rifle at around 75 yards at pigs using night vision, or feeder mounted lights. I have a lot of AR-15's with large capacity mags, and thousands of rounds of 5.56 ammo. What we are talking about here is barrel length and twist, bullet weight and speed, and planting that oversized weighted slow moving bullet with a small charge of powder into the pump station, or more likely behind the ear of a 200 lb or less oinker for a dirt nap. I am looking for knowledge from people that have shot suppressed 300 blackouts, as compared to a 308 suppressed at short yardages. I want to kill pigs subsonic. I have killed hogs with 5.56, 22 LR, 22 mags, 17 HMR, .243, 30-06, and 7mm Rem mags. They all died, but I want to shoot at night, shoot quieter, and kill more piggies. Heck, you can shoot high velocity rounds in a 22 lr pistol without a can and not break supersonic, because of barrel length. I am on a mission to make a silent pig killer.

All hogs must die.

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