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The Government doesn't have to provide contraceptives, the insurance companies can be allowed to leave contraception coverage out of the policy, and schools can be told not to include sex education.  These are all understandable positions for some to take but they will each lead to more abortions.  These positions lead to more abortions just as those who choose not vote to penalize a woman or her doctor for her choice to end a pregnancy or take a pill are accused of doing.


When will you start posting as Dewey again?

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I don't remember any votes for abortion.  Additionally, I know very few people who push for more abortions.  Most people I know work hard to reduce pregnancies and in turn reduce abortions.  Making contraception access more difficult just makes the fight against abortions harder.  As for voting, I do know there have been votes cast against making abortion illegal and penalizing women who choose one.
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I don't remember any votes for abortion.  Additionally, I know very few people who push for more abortions.  Most people I know work hard to reduce pregnancies and in turn reduce abortions.  Making contraception access more difficult just makes the fight against abortions harder.  As for voting, I do know there have been votes cast against making abortion illegal and penalizing women who choose one.


When will you start posting as Dewey again?

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I don't remember any votes for abortion.  Additionally, I know very few people who push for more abortions.  Most people I know work hard to reduce pregnancies and in turn reduce abortions.  Making contraception access more difficult just makes the fight against abortions harder.  As for voting, I do know there have been votes cast against making abortion illegal and penalizing women who choose one.


Sad how you leftists never talk about the penalty paid by the aborted baby.  You could care less about the unborn.  65 million.  Dewey supports infanticide.

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As recently stated, the Constitution allows religious organizations to provide health insurance policies that don't include contraceptive coverage.  Does this decision lead to more abortions in this Country?
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

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As recently stated, the Constitution allows religious organizations to provide health insurance policies that don't include contraceptive coverage.  Does this decision lead to more abortions in this Country?


No - what leads to more abortions are a man and a woman having unprotected sex and then deciding not to deal with the consequences.

When are you going to start posting as Dewey?

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I don't remember any votes for abortion.  Additionally, I know very few people who push for more abortions.  Most people I know work hard to reduce pregnancies and in turn reduce abortions.  Making contraception access more difficult just makes the fight against abortions harder.  As for voting, I do know there have been votes cast against making abortion illegal and penalizing women who choose one.





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You have voted for those who ran on a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy - that's voting.

Of course no one wants more abortions.  Some of us don't want any, and some are okay with a woman ending a pregnancy.

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The Right says gun laws do no good as a person who wants a gun will get a gun.
The Left says a law against abortion does not stop abortions.  A woman who wants an abortion will get an abortion.

While both statements above are largely inaccurate, the Right would do better by joining the Left regarding measures that will reduce pregnancies in our society, which will in return reduce abortions.  The Right spends far too much time calling for a magic law, that may actually have little effect on abortions, and calling half of Americans "baby killers".  I can't think of any less helpful approach one could possibly choose to help lower abortions taking place in America.

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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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"some are okay with a woman ending a pregnancy."


Once again, twist the position of others in order to make a case.  If one refuses to throw a man in jail for committing adultery, the Right will spin it as if one is OK with adultery.  This is what the Right does on a daily basis.  How about asking someone if their position is pro this or that and then accept it as their answer?  

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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Jones: I am a firm believer that a woman should have the freedom to choose what happens to her own body, and I’m going to stand up for that, and I’m going to make sure that that continues to happen. I want to make sure that as we go forward, people have access to contraception, they have access to the abortion that they might need, if that’s what they choose to do.

Todd: You wouldn’t be in favor of legislation that said “ban abortion after 20 weeks,” or something like that?

Jones: No, I’m not in favor of anything that is going to infringe on a woman’s right and her freedom to choose. That’s just the position that I’ve had for many years, it’s the position I continue to have.


Doug Jones believes in abortion in all cases and without restriction.

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"some are okay with a woman ending a pregnancy."


Once again, twist the position of others in order to make a case.  If one refuses to throw a man in jail for committing adultery, the Right will spin it as if one is OK with adultery.  This is what the Right does on a daily basis.  How about asking someone if their position is pro this or that and then accept it as their answer? 


How about explaining why you use a new handle when you chastised others for doing the same.

How about explaining why you continue to ignore this very relevant issue.

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salty indeed lost_1.  Was thinking the same thing. 
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The right wants the gun laws on the books applied correctly.  Most of the guns used in crime in the US are well known to law enforcement.  Removing those guns from the street will make the streets 10x safer.
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We voted for a president.  He appointed Supreme Court Justices.  Those justices were approved by a vote in the Senate.  Supreme Court Justices voted on Roe V. Wade.

You get easily confused.  It was voted on from the top to the bottom. 

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SC voted hate speech is allowed.  I'm confident the SC is not pro hate speech.  I don't believe they cast a vote "for" hate speech. 
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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How about explaining why you use a new handle when you chastised others for doing the same.

How about explaining why you continue to ignore this very relevant issue.

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SC voted hate speech is allowed.  I'm confident the SC is not pro hate speech.  I don't believe they cast a vote "for" hate speech. 


Crickets.........................................

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How about explaining why you use a new handle when you chastised others for doing the same.

How about explaining why you continue to ignore this very relevant issue.


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What's new over in the slimy beltway brother?
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Crickets.........................................


Really?  They voted that hate speech is allowed?  Is that exactly what was argued before the court?  Or should we dig in to what people identify as speech they disagree with as hate speech?

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Crickets.........................................


Fresh - you should probably get out now.  You're riding a tricycle on a freeway.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.2ecb48ec9d2c

Edit:  Second, as Justice Alito put it in his opinion, "The proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express 'the thought that we hate.'"

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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.2ecb48ec9d2c


I don't have a subscription so I can't read it.

But since you are clearly capable of responding to posts, why don't you tell us all when you're going to post as Dewey.

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Uh oh.  SC just came down with a new ruling.  Two handled pontificating loser are GAF.   Your move dewey
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What's new over in the slimy beltway brother?


Ivanka's in India.

Visited Gallaudet University today, we are friends with a deaf college student from Texas who will be transferring in the Spring to play baseball there. The school is renowned for offering opportunities for hearing impaired athletes.

If you ever come here again, feast at Founding Farmers restaurant. Ate there twice now, exceptional dining. Read their website

You may or may not be interested, we visited the newly opened Museum of the Bible today. The place is truly amazing with 6 floors of Bible history and interpretation. Also toured Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the smell of money wafted through the air. The level of security in that building and across this city is reassuring and awe inspiring at the same time.

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Nice cocktail menu at that FF restaurant. I like the sound of the Knob Creek "The Bone" cocktail. Sounds GAF, I know. But Bacon.
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That museum was paid for by the founder of Hobby Lobby
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"some are okay with a woman ending a pregnancy."


Once again, twist the position of others in order to make a case.  If one refuses to throw a man in jail for committing adultery, the Right will spin it as if one is OK with adultery.  This is what the Right does on a daily basis.  How about asking someone if their position is pro this or that and then accept it as their answer?  


Are you saying a woman should not be allowed to end a pregnancy? Almost all on the left think it is ok for a woman to do so.

I am of the opinion it is a human life and she does not have that right.

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Every right leaning individual who won't support a law/amendment banning hate speech is OK with hate speech.  True or false?

Most people despise hate speech but the vast majority wouldn't vote to disallow it.  If a woman wants an abortion, she'll get an abortion.  I'm not for putting teenage girls, women (mostly poor) and doctors into jail over abortion.  A law probably wouldn't make a dent anyway.  Better to put all our energy into reducing abortions via education and contraception. 

One has to wonder, if laws were passed against abortion, and the Right eventually tired of calling the opposition baby killers, what would the next step be from the Right to end the abortions that would certainly continue underground?  Anything?

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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