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TheNarrator

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DeBlasio announces free health care for everyone in NYC, including those here illegally.

That's right, folks in NYC will be paying for the health care of the undocumented.

I think DeBlasio just launched his campaign for the White House.
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Hope people start moving there and Californians quit flocking here.  Think spazsdad wrote that CA will offer free health care for illegals, awesome news for Cal
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According to DeBlasio it will not require tax increases to cover the medical bills of the hundreds of thousands of people that don’t have insurance. I guess he will be covering their medical bills out of his own bank account.
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His numbers show an annual cost of $185 per person. Just shows how out of touch the ivory tower liberals are to what goes on in the real world
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How much do your figures show it will cost? 
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Current law keeps them from redirecting federal monies to pay for their healthcare system.  As a result, they need to come up with $139 Billion to pay for it.

If you are in a household that makes $150,000 a year, you can expect your 6.45% state tax rate to jump to 18.3 %.  Yikes. 

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Who quoted those figures, or did you just guess?
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Who quoted those figures, or did you just guess?

You are an idiot.  No usey googles?

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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/08/01/rand-study-finds-single-payer-viable-in-new-york-but-with-big-caveats-536072
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I think mindless gets constantly excited and forgets that someone has to pay for all this largess.
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Thought you guys don't trust Politico? They tell the truth.
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18.3% state tax rate for lower middle class gets you a frickload of truth I guess.
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How much do your figures show it will cost? 

Way too much. How’s that. Even you aren’t stupid or blind enough to think you can insure someone for $185/yr.

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He made some good points in the presser in that this is supposed to be in lieu of folks using the ER as their primary care physician as many do now.

I think there could be some common ground found on both sides if that is actually what is going to happen.
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He made some good points in the presser in that this is supposed to be in lieu of folks using the ER as their primary care physician as many do now.

I think there could be some common ground found on both sides if that is actually what is going to happen.

They said the same about ocare.  The layabouts and drug abusers are still going to the ER for the most part, even with ocare. 

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Maybe one of our esteemed libtards can explain this logic.
24yr old US citizen just getting going in the workforce chooses to forgo purchasing health insurance due to the high cost relative to his income.
Government taxes said citizen for being a bad comrade.
Government takes the tax and uses it to pay for health insurance for an illegal of the same age.
Why isn’t the illegal taxed for not buying insurance?
Why are they exempt from this requirement.
Why do Dems love illegals more than Americans. And befor3 you say that’s a lie tell how this scenario does not prove the point

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Very true - common ground can only be found when both sides are negotiating in good faith and those who are in the system use it as it was meant to be used.  We probably spend more funding them in the ER than we would using other means.
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Ocare worked a lot better than the trump/republican plan, didn't it? Oh, that's right, they didn't have a plan. Just little b1tches, all whining and concerned about the high cost of insurance and all. I guess in the criminal, liars world, no insurance is better than the ACA. On the other hand, criminals don't usually buy insurance.....they have other people pay for it.
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Ocare worked a lot better than the trump/republican plan, didn't it? Oh, that's right, they didn't have a plan. Just little b1tches, all whining and concerned about the high cost of insurance and all. I guess in the criminal, liars world, no insurance is better than the ACA. On the other hand, criminals don't usually buy insurance.....they have other people pay for it.

So pointing out the exorbitant costs of insurance with worse coverage than pre ACA is beitching and whining
What I had before the SCa was better than what I have now
Are you calling those that receive benefits through the government criminals
Sounds racist from where I sit

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Maybe one of our esteemed libtards can explain this logic.
24yr old US citizen just getting going in the workforce chooses to forgo purchasing health insurance due to the high cost relative to his income. Government will help pay if the individual does not make enough money.  Imagine if months into the job individual needs heart surgery.  Who pays?
Government taxes said citizen for being a bad comrade. Tax is part of the mandate.
Government takes the tax and uses it to pay for health insurance for an illegal of the same age. Maybe they use the tax to give wealthy people tax cuts or military a raise.  False argument.
Why isn’t the illegal taxed for not buying insurance? Will be if they file a return.
Why are they exempt from this requirement. I don't believe they are.
Why do Dems love illegals more than Americans. They don't.  And befor3 you say that’s a lie tell how this scenario does not prove the point. I just explained it.

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What is being missed here is the Mayor of NYC is requiring American citizens to pay for the health care of those here illegally.

Welcome to the future of the dem party.  You can bet they will get hammered in the flyovers during the next election.
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Wrong. Both sides have made the decision to care for everyone in this Country. If you disagree with Americans in general, and think illegals should be denied medical care, here’s your opportunity to take that position.

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What is being missed here is the Mayor of NYC is requiring American citizens to pay for the health care of those here illegally.

Welcome to the future of the dem party.  You can bet they will get hammered in the flyovers during the next election.

Yep.  pretty awful outcome for those that end up paying.  

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48% will pay for the 100%.  We have failed our chillren, for they will be yoked with burdensome taxation like never seen before.  I hope the freshmen parents are paying attention.
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His numbers show an annual cost of $185 per person. Just shows how out of touch the ivory tower liberals are to what goes on in the real world


More like $185 per person per week.
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