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TheNarrator

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Picture from a Reuters news article today.  I'm sure they "misused" the photo.


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Dem/Socialist party darling bans press from Town Halls:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/17/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-covering-campaign-event.html
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Just in case freshy won't click on the fox link.


http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-town-hall/article_e59fba26-ddd9-559a-af62-e11dd76e1191.html

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Dem/Socialist party darling bans press from Town Halls:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/17/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-covering-campaign-event.html


What? But the people!!!

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We should speculate on the Dem/Socialists big secret. 
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We should speculate on the Dem/Socialists big secret. 


That would make an awesome thread, something about free stuff and paid by those who choose to work

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TheNarrator

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CNN again:

Michael Cohen told Congress that he had no idea whether President Trump knew ahead of time about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting that included Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer, a report said Thursday.

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CNN reported last month that Cohen was willing to testify to special counsel Robert Mueller that Trump knew in advance of the meeting, during which the Russian lawyer offered “dirt” on then-candidate Hillary Clinton.

https://nypost.com/2018/08/23/cohen-told-congress-he-doesnt-know-if-donald-knew-about-trump-tower-meeting/?platform=hootsuite
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Again, CNN can't know exactly what happened, they weren't there.  You have to understand the job of the journalist.  They take what credible sources tell them and report it.  If they say that Colorado father strangled his kids, they will report that.  Sometimes they are given misinformation.  If sources are too often wrong, the journalist will be dismissed as an inaccurate news source.  In any event, Congress wants to call Mr Cohen back to find out what story is true.  Mr Cohen may have lied and CNN's source may have it correct.


Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.

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Again, CNN can't know exactly what happened, they weren't there.  You have to understand the job of the journalist. 


Thanks for the lecture young man - you really need to tone it down.

It is their job to substantiate the source, even if it was Cohen's own lawyer.  I'm sure they just ran with the story, and might print a two line "I'm sorry".

Damage is done.  The left-leaning press gets away with another lie in Deweyland
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You have yet to write a simple sentence of something the Left said that was a lie.  I'll counter when you do.

I've done everything I can to explain what journalists do so I won't try again.  What I will repeat is that a lie is saying something you know isn't true. 

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Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Using your standard, journalists couldn't report about women who say they were assaulted or report on children who say they were molested.
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Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Because the first thing taught in journalism school is.......My bad.


dewey has wrapped himself into a serious pretzel trying to run interference for shoddy journalism.

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I thought we had young newbile crack investigative journalists on the case.  Surely after more than 2 years they have ferreted out exactly what has happened.
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Keep up with your unammed sources.  MSM has lost all sense of credibility with more than half the American people. 

Going to be an endless November 8, 2016.  Which will be all that much more fun for me.

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You have yet to write a simple sentence of something the Left said that was a lie.  I'll counter when you do.

I've done everything I can to explain what journalists do so I won't try again.  What I will repeat is that a lie is saying something you know isn't true. 


CBS said they had confirmed the documents in the Rather case were authentic, when in fact, they had not.  An outright lie.  I guess it's not in Deweyland.
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No, CBS stood behind the documents as being real when the truth was they were misled by the source who said the documents were authentic.  After a week or so, they discovered they had been lied to.  They did screw up but not as you describe.  Nobody suggests news organizations don't screw up on rare occasions.

"Network officials said a former Texas National Guard officer had misled their producers about how he obtained the documents, which came under scrutiny almost as soon as the network broadcast its report on the CBS Evening News and "60 Minutes" on Sept. 8. While CBS stopped short of calling the memos a fraud, it said it could not now say for certain where the documents came from.

"Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic, which is the only acceptable journalistic standard to justify using them in the report," said Andrew Heyward, the CBS News president. "We should not have used them. That was a mistake, which we deeply regret."


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Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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No, CBS said they had been authenticated, when in fact, they had not.  Do you ever get tired of being wrong?



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60 Minutes segment, anchor Dan Rather stated: "We are told [the documents] were taken from Lieutenant Colonel Killian's personal files"[9] and incorrectly asserted that "the material" had been authenticated by experts retained by CBS.[10]
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No, CBS defended the authenticity of the documents and Dan Rather said on 60 minutes forensic experts had authenticated them.  Once CBS chose to confirm the authenticity, they couldn't and apologized for their failure to meet journalistic standards.  Once again proving how critical it is for news to be truthful.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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So, not only did they incorrectly assert the documents had been authenticated, they also ignored the ones that didn't go along with their narrative:

Mapes sought out a handful of experts to assess the authenticity of the documents, including forensic analysts and several former officers and administrators from TXANG. Several of those experts expressed reservations about the memos, but Mapes and other CBS News officials ignored those doubts.2

And did not even listen to Killian's own assistant:   Killian’s assistant told CBS that she had no recollection of typing the memos and speculated that while the information contained within them may have accurately reflected problems with Bush’s service, the documents themselves did not seem authentic.

http://cphcmp.smu.edu/2004election/killian-documents/#_ftn5

If you can't assertain that this was a blatant attempt by the press to sway a Presidential election, then there really is nothing the press can do that will make you admit they have gone out of there way to intentionally hurt republican candidates by bending the truth.
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Dan Rather and Mapes did seek out forensic experts to authenticate the documents.  Maybe they chose to believe some over others.  I don't know but I see Republicans do that all the time.  In any event, CBS tried to confirm, couldn't do so to their satisfaction, and apologized for a story that shouldn't have aired.  Rather paid a price too.  Proof that journalism is extremely concerned about accuracy.
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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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They said the documents had been authenticated, when in fact they had not.  The proof being they were not authentic.  Maybe they should have listened to the guys secretary.  They ignored her. 

Why would you say Dan Rather still stands by the story?
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They said the documents had been authenticated, when in fact they had not.  The proof being they were not authentic.  Maybe they should have listened to the guys secretary.  They ignored her. 

Why would you say Dan Rather still stands by the story?

It is a very bizarre assertion at this point. 

CBS dumps their brightest and most talented anchor who had been the head of that network for like 30 years, because everyone believed a truthful story. 

Interesting analysis Dew

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No harder to believe than the president's personal attorney willfully pleaded guilty to two felonies that aren't crimes. 
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No harder to believe than the president's personal attorney willfully pleaded guilty to two felonies that aren't crimes. 

Except this is an obvious conclusion for anyone that read the law he was supposed to have broken.

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You are so buffaloed. 
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"A few things are clear. A candidate is free to contribute to his or her own campaign. It also is not criminal for a candidate to pay hush money to women whose disclosures might endanger his campaign. So if candidate Trump paid hush money to his two accusers, there would be no violation of any campaign or other laws. To be sure, if he did so for the purpose of helping his campaign — as distinguished from helping his marriage — his campaign would have to disclose any such contribution, and failure to do so might be a violation of a campaign law, but the payments themselves would be entirely lawful."
"If, on the other hand, Michael Cohen made the payments by himself, without direction from the president, that would constitute an impermissible campaign contribution from a third party. But if Cohen was merely acting as Trump’s lawyer and advancing Trump’s payments, with an expectation of repayment, then it would be hard to find a campaign finance crime other than failure to report by the campaign."
"Failure to report all campaign contributions is fairly common in political campaigns. Moreover, the offense is committed not by the candidate but, rather, by the campaign and is generally subject to a fine. Though it is wrong, it certainly is not the kind of high crime and misdemeanor that could serve as the basis for a constitutionally authorized impeachment and removal of a duly elected president."

Reality is the campaign laws are such that if there is any other viable reason for the candidate to make they payment, such as save a marriage, then the payments are legal.

Have a great weekend loser.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/403072-did-president-trump-violate-campaign-finance-laws

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The payment isn't the problem. Failure to report it is.
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The payment isn't the problem. Failure to report it is.

perhaps linky dink someone tying that to an actual law. 

The Hill article addresses all possible forms of payment and reporting.  None are violations of law.  read the article please, then ask something that makes sense.

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I see references here to Daily Caller as a reputable source for conservative causes. Owned by Tucker Carlson, it is factually accurate for the most part, but frequently runs misleading headlines and buries facts deeper in the story than the sensationalized comments. This summation from Newsguard, a browser add on that rates internet sources for accuracy. They still get a green light, but Breitbart doesn't. Check it out, good discussion fodder.

https://api.newsguardtech.com/5d69f0b4-61e8-416b-97a0-f94a23a91642

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