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bhblue

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fhoenix - After a closer look, I see that the FBI stats don't differentiate between whites and Hispanics.  That kind of changes things if the aim was to show that "whites" commit more crimes than blacks.  Looked good on paper though.

When I have time, I'll try to find a better breakdown. 

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Here's a NYC report covering January thru June 2012.  Here are some highlights:

Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter   
 VictimSuspectArrestee
AMER IND0.5%0.0%0.0%
ASIAN/PAC.ISL3.3%3.7%4.1%
BLACK64.1%55.1%55.3%
WHITE7.1%10.3%11.2%
HISPANIC25.0%30.8%29.4%
Total Victims/Suspects/Arrests185108170
Known Race Ethnicity184107170
% of Incidents With Race/Eth. Known99.5%99.1%100.0%
    
Rape   
 VictimSuspectArrestee
AMER IND0.6%0.0%0.0%
ASIAN/PAC.ISL3.4%3.0%2.3%
BLACK40.5%53.5%48.7%
WHITE17.8%11.1%5.5%
HISPANIC37.7%32.3%43.0%
Total Victims/Suspects/Arrests556481402
Known Race Ethnicity523396398
% of Incidents With Race/Eth. Known94.1%82.3%99.0%
    
Robbery   
 VictimSuspectArrestee
AMER IND0.8%0.1%0.2%
ASIAN/PAC.ISL13.0%1.4%2.5%
BLACK32.5%70.3%61.7%
WHITE18.1%4.7%6.1%
HISPANIC35.6%23.5%29.5%
Total Victims/Suspects/Arrests10294116275502
Known Race Ethnicity897093035483
% of Incidents With Race/Eth. Known87.1%80.0%99.7%
    
Felony Assault   
 VictimSuspectArrestee
AMER IND0.5%0.3%0.4%
ASIAN/PAC.ISL5.2%3.0%3.8%
BLACK47.4%54.2%52.4%
WHITE13.0%8.9%9.6%
HISPANIC33.9%33.5%33.8%
Total Victims/Suspects/Arrests950353517362
Known Race Ethnicity828637667313
% of Incidents With Race/Eth. Known87.2%70.4%99.3%

Quite a different narrative than fhoenix put forth once whites and Hispanics are broken out.
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"Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs..."
- Booker T. Washington
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smh

New York City is not reflective of the United states in demographics, ratio of people to land, economy, density, politics or crime. It is a city. The Largest city in America. Twice as large as Los Angeles which is the 2nd largest city. New York city is only 33% white. 72% of usa population is white so new york city is well below USA average on white population and is at the top or near top for blacks 25%, and 28.6% are Hispanic and 13% are Asian. The biggest melting pot in America. If whites are only 1/3 of the population in NYC and using FBI data formula for crimes in usa you would have a larger number of crimes by blacks and Hispanics in NYC since they make up 2/3 of the population. Simple math. This also means crime is less in other cities since NYC slants them one way and to average out it has to slant the other direction for other cities.

But thanks for proving my point........New York City has more population than all but 10 states. So the stats from New York city overshadow whole states when added to the mix. Wyoming has crime but less than 1% of the population is black. But New York city (the city not the state) is 16 times larger than Wyoming so New York cities stats dwarf Wyoming. Large cities have more crime than small ones. Oh yea...they are the largest cities so that makes sense. New York city, Los Angeles, Chicago, philly and Houston are the 5 largest cities. Yet the highest crime rate (not volume but rate of crime based on city size---crime rate per capita) is Albuquerque New Mexico. Anchorage Alaska has 3rd highest crime rate in USA yet the population is 1/30 of NYC. The population of Anchorage is only 5% black, almost 9% is Asian and 8% is native Alaskan or native American, multi-race is 8%, Hispanics 7% and 63% non-Hispanic whites. Here are stats from Anchorage crime page. 
  • The chance of being a victim of a crime in Anchorage is 1 in 26.
  • The chance of being a victim of a violent crime in Anchorage is 1 in 125.
  • The chance of being a victim of a property crime in Anchorage is 1 in 32.

Not very safe place to live is it.

Using the stats of the largest city in America that has the most volume (packed in like sardines) and most diversity with fewest white people and most blacks to represent all of America? Post the crime stats from cities that are 98% or greater white population like Mantor Ohio. If the only people in a city are white and there is crime the criminals are majority white. That is why crime stats are per capita not total. Stats effect the USa. So the large cities do not reflect the small towns but in overall stats they shift the column greatly.

100 murders in urban city added to 2 murders from rural town and averaging the 2 cities you have 51 murders per city. But in reality the crime is concentrated in the urban city not the rural town. But when you average things together the higher number overshadow the lower one. Just like voting. Wyoming is only 3 electoral votes and California is worth 55. Alaska only has 3 yet Texas has 34 and new York has 31. You can have 35 states vote red but if the 15 other states have the majority of electoral votes and are the largest states they will effect the vote more and elect the president. It isn't land size....it is population. Show a red map and wonder if most of map is red how did election get lost? Easy...those specs on the map known as new York city and los angleles have more population than several of those large red states added together. Alaska is huge yet population is just a neighborhood in new York city. Yes..you can fit all of Alaska population into New York city and still fit in north and south Dakota, Idaho, Mississippi, Wyoming west Virginia and utah. The bronx neighborhood in new York city is larger than several states added together.    

So showing the stats of NYC does not disprove or prove anything unless you are specifically discussing crime in new York city.



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You can shake your head all you like. You posted claims about "white" perpetrators, while taken from FBI statistics, that do not distinguish white from Hispanic and add comments about us being more likely to fall victim to a "white" perpetrators. That's misleading given the data. The NYC report was the most handy considering the time I had. Now, if you expect me to believe that national stats with whites and Hispanics broken out will be drastically different, you'll have to show me the data supporting that. The stats you threw out didn't take geography into consideration, yet now you want to change the argument and bring up big cities? Excuse me while I smh.
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Fhoenix - you made some good points, and of course, said some things I don't agree with however. 


However, this thread is now starting to take the sort of turn that I was afraid it would, so I'm checking out.

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Since Booker T. Washington was mentions (a great man we had to research often for black history month on the military bases as kids).
He was a black conservative.

"There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs...There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."
---this was his response to blacks who wanted equality for all blacks. He was born a slave in the south and light skinned he worked in the home and got educated. He was a great man and advised presidents but that doesn't mean he cared about the best interests of blacks in America long term. He wanted blacks to let the white folks do the fancy stuff and blacks do the labor stuff. He wanted blacks to work on industry skills and stay in the south. There are many books by other black educators about how Booker T. was loved by southern whites but not most blacks nor north. Sound familiar? He did not want blacks to vote or effect white society. The northern black educators wanted blacks to be able to learn liberal arts, piano, and the skills that Booker T. had learned. Basically blacks should become the worker class and do not try to be more. Don't waste your time and concentrate on being a good field hand, carpenter, blacksmith, etc...The liberal blacks wanted full equality. Booker said those people, like his arch enemy W.E.B. Du Bois cared more about trying to be equal than just fitting in as laborers. Blacks were never going to be seen as equal was his view so don't try and do what you can to contribute. Accept your role and do your best at it. Booker T. basically orated a "settlement" between blacks and southern whites. We blacks will continue as before but not as slaves. Booker T. basically told the whites in the South in 1895. 'You win"...."We don't want the right the vote. We just want to till our farms, better ourselves, and be left alone. Leave us in peace, and you'll here no more of this voting or integration business." Since there were race riots often and white was right and the KKk made sure of that many blacks agreed. Just leave us alone. Give us our area and we will leave you alone and you leave us alone. No more lynchings, burning crosses, etc. trying to be equal.
Booker T. was right and wrong at same time as history shows. And if not for black liberals of north fighting for equality there would have been none and blacks would not be mixed in society with white, everything would have remained segregated including sports, entertainment, etc.

His reply to those who wanted black equality in all fields----
“No race can prosper till it learns that there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem.”
That can apply to everyone in America now. People don't want to do crap jobs and rather get a handout while waiting for a great job than do fast food, or labor job.

His Separate but equal philosophy---
"We do not want the men of another color for our brothers-in-law, but we do want them for our brothers".

And his statement that applies to everyone...even today------
"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else"



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Walter E Williams take on civil rights 50 yrs later.  Wonder how much blowback he will get from this?

http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/08/28/walter-e-williams-the-civil-rights-struggle-is-over-and-it-is-won/

Dr Ben Carson's thoughts.

http://www.buff.ly/1406uE2


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Don't bolt on the frank conversation mike.   There are ways to have a civilized conversation and I think no line has been crossed do you?  This is how we will NEVER get problems resolved when we bolt on these discussions that need to be discussed.  This thread is a microcosm of why we are in the predicament we are in.  People are easily offended when we bring up facts.  Spin is spin and facts are facts.  This forum is full of spin from the left, spin from the right, Liars in charge on both sides.  Discuss the problem and fix it.  But if you want to join the foray into thinking everything is well and good in this country then keep the rose colored glasses on.  You don't have to bolt on the conversation, you can lurk and join when you want to add some tidbit.

I want to say I will be watching the Texas State Fair this fall to see if it will be overrun with mobs

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Originally Posted by fhoenix
Since Booker T. Washington was mentions (a great man we had to research often for black history month on the military bases as kids).
He was a black conservative.

His reply to those who wanted black equality in all fields----
“No race can prosper till it learns that there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem.”
That can apply to everyone in America now. People don't want to do crap jobs and rather get a handout while waiting for a great job than do fast food, or labor job.



In relation to this quote, MLK said

“If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as a Michaelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.”



I do not think this country will EVER get it's MOJO back and it's because we lost our work ethic and became a nation of 'gimme, gimme, gimmees'.

"Family has it's benefits"  [fhoenix] is the most poignant statement in the last few days here.  That's the problem in a nutshell, fix it.  You say whites can't fix the family situation among blacks, they won't listen; you say conservative blacks can't fix the family situation among blacks, they won't listen;  whoever it is out there that black youth will listen to [Oprah, Beyonce, Sharpton, Lil Wayne, Denzel, John Lewis,         edit: Ellen, Jamie Foxx, obummer] gather the resources and attack the problem


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real - You have nothing to fear but fear itself.    Frank


Then I'm good to go JG

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When I was in high school in Central Florida, a group of Hispanic kids pointed out me and some my friends at a County fair because we were wearing our letterman jackets.  One of the kids walked by, and lowered his shoulder into me, hard, almost knocked me over.  As I turned around, before I saw it coming, he hit me with a roundhouse right in the jaw.  Unfortunately for him, I was recovering my wits before he connected, and though it hurt, I did not stagger, go down, or anything else.  You might say, I retaliated, and his friends jumped in, which then meant my friends jumped in and pulled them off.

It all lasted probably 5 minutes, behind a tent where no one could see.  When it was done, my face was swelled where he caught me as I turned, and his nose and eye were swelled where I caught him afterwards.  His friends sucker punched me in some places that you couldn't see, and that hurt and was bruised, before my friends got them off.

When it was over, and we left, it honestly never occurred to me what race they were.  They were just a-hole tough guys that picked the wrong redneck (OK, I was a redneck back then, but I grew out of it).

I've been thinking lately how that all might have gone down in today's world:
- would someone have gotten shot?
- would it be justified?
- would the have shot me as opposed to sucker-punching me?
- would I have been arrested for a hate crime?
- would I have developed some racial prejudice as a result of the incident?
- would it have been much more violent than it was?
- would my friends have videoed it on their cell phones, and posted it to youtube?
- would knowing it would be on youtube have forced me or the other guy to escalate it for fear of being shown up?

I don't agree at all with what some folks were saying here about manning up and taking your whipping.  However, I guess back in the day, that's sort of how it went.

I guess the point is, which is similar to what fhoenix said, is that this sort of stuff has happened before, but it happens in the spotlight now.

Given the media world we live in, it seems these incidents escalate.  In part, I think, it's because they get glorified through MSM and social media.

As I said in another post, outside of increased law enforcement presence, I don't know that there's any honest solutions to it.

Maybe the other thing too - my coach suspended me for a game for fighting in my letterman's jacket, and making the school look bad (he heard about from the other guys, who in no way thought I'd get in trouble).  Bring dishonor to the school, grab some pine, no questions asked.

Maybe some of that sort of adult leadership is needed too.
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fhoenix - Let me help you with my earlier question. African Americans make up <14% of the US population. Your post states they commit >38% of violent crime. Do you you care to try and explain this away or will you keep dodging by posting stories of historic figures?
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Is that the number that has been avoided?  hmmmm
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  Are you, yourself, denying we have a problem with gang/mob violence?  If we have a problem should we deal with it?  Are you afraid to drive in major metropolitan areas in this country at night?  If you see 50-100 people looting and rioting in a Wal Mart would you still enter?  If you went to the Iowa State Fair would you expect violence to break out, would you expect to hear chanted "Get Whitey night"?  Do you have video proof that roving gangs of whites or mexicans are roaming the streets of this country to inflict beatings, broken bones or death on individuals that look different than them?  Please provide those videos/links, plz, plz



**crickets** on me? 

DC, I noticed you don't put a lot of 411 out there.  Probably smart move on your part.  But you didn't like any of those questions in response to your links?  I like links ok, but personal insight says more about a person.

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Another reason America can't have this conversation:

That murder of the Australian student by three bored kids was reported as two blacks and one white. It turns out the white kid has a black father and a white mother, just like Obama. But Obama is black, and the murderous kid is white.

How does this further an honest discussion in America?
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"How does this further an honest discussion in America"

But then you are called a racist by asking any such question or stating that fact that led to the question. 

On a side note:  That mixed race feller had the best of both worlds didn't he?

Can someone believe that an opinion or a discussion, can be 'about' race and be called racial but in no way is it racist?  Can a person believe that in this country? on this thread?  Can a racial dialog exist without someone accusing racism?

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I noted that on an earlier post, FIB, but as you pointed out, the media won't mention it and it doesn't help some in this thread so they ignore it too. Since his racial makeup is obviously important enough to them, it is to me as well. Particularly in this thread. Of course, Seattle is a fairly large city, so I guess his actions must be understood and rationalized.
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This is major Bill Smith. Blacks make up a disproportionate amount of purveyors of violent crime as, opposed to their demographic. Will someone explain why I should forgive them for that statistic? Unfortunately, the only thing that statistic tells an average American, is that if they are placed in a bad situation, that chances are, that a Black person will be the one that is attempting to perpetrate a crime against them. How should we react as a society? We know who is doing bad, but just like the TSA, we are hassling the wrong racial demographic. If you are a Muslim male between 18-40 years old, you should indeed be profiled due to past actions by that demographic. If you are a Black male between 12-40, you should likewise be profiled due to crime statistics. Don't like it? Then change the crime demographic. I do not hang out with thug gangsters. Why should any American be made to tolerate these people? Arrest them, incarcerate them, kill them, and hang them. What are we thinking? Will they suddenly become great contributors to our society?

PS, their is a new crime demographic in our area, organized Mexican Nationals committing high profile crimes. Organized robberies, home invasions, and kidnappings. These people are immune to racism. They don't care, they are crime syndicates, and are immune to deportation, unless caught committing a crime. Texas is becoming a lawless state run by Cartels to the South of us. Disprove my point, or send troops to the border. We have been overrun by illegals, and nobody is doing anything. Our cities are now populated by Mexican Nationals. Enact Everify nationally, and deport them immediately. They are taking your community"s school funding, and school special services, and welfare benefits en mass. Deport them now, or suffer down the road. We will gladly ship you 10 million from the State of Texas, to assimilate in your state.

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Blacks are also the vast majority of victims.  Black on black crime is the largest share of all such statistics.  Saying that one particular demographic needs to be treated differently is not the answer.

The only way to curb violence in this country is to return to the traditional values a strong family unit with proper morals.  Another thread in this forum is obsessed with Miley Cyrus.  That obsession is a large part of the problem.

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I agree, but I have been waiting for a great length of time for Black Americans to stop being a majority of perpetrators of crime within their demographic. Why not ask the question of why they are not model citizens participating in a great country. Why should the Black community be given a pass on violent crime? They are the thug gangsters perpetrating crimes, why shouldn't they as a race be held accountable? I don't care what color you are, if you are trash, and commit violent crimes, you should be hung in the courthouse square, and your parents if you can find any, made to pay per foot for the rope you are hung by.
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Obsessed, pabar? So is a unanimous condemnation of her what is wrong with this county? My bad. I'll try to limit my comments to pabar approved threads and not contribute to the downfall of America. Thanks for pointing out what's really the issue here: People posting their opinions on an internet forum.
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In my opinion, we got to this point thanks to LBJ who made government assistance much more prevalent via the war on poverty creating a generational dependency that any human is generally unable to break free from.  At the time, and continuing today, blacks made up the disproportionate share of the poor.  In the 1960s, their socio-economic status was due to the still prevalent discrimination that blacks suffered.

One of the things that bothers me these days is the effort by the gay community to equate their plight with the plight that blacks suffered for so long in this country.  In this country, it's not even close as to which group of people has been treated the worst.  To draw a parallel between the injustices suffered by gays with that suffered by blacks is an incredible insult to the black community.
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Hey Blue - I never said who can post what.  I just made my own opinion on the relative importance of various issues.  Feel free to post whatever you like and I'll do the same.
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Gotcha pabar. Everything in life can't be of the utmost importance. The weeds can be fun sometimes.
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Blue - so you know where i'm coming from.  I'm a very angry and frightened conservative who sees the country I love going down a rathole and never returning to its glory for the benefit of my kids and grandkids.  Despite that, I see to each his or her own as long as they're responsible, kind people.  The state of "entertainment" in this country is, to me, one symptom of how far we've fallen.
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Updated to today----

In last 52 hours 100 people have been murdered in America.
68 were killed by whites. 26 were killed by blacks. 6 were killed by other race or nationality.
62 of the 68 victims killed by whites were white, 4 were black, and 2 was another race or nationality. 
24 of the 26 victims killed by blacks were black and 2 was white or another race or nationality.
So the news could cover the 4 blacks killed by whites yesterday or the white killed by blacks yesterday.
Every day we could have interracial and intraracial killings in the news since they happen daily. News can be 24/7 who was just killed and by whom.

Where are the other interracial and intraracial killings in past 2 days? They don't put them in news because it dilutes the ones they highlight. The race of the killer or victims only matters to someone trying to make race an issue either way. There is no point in media replaying this story over and over. It is done. 400 people have been killed since the person in Oklahoma. In fact others have been killed in Oklahoma since then.

And percentages don't represent where you live. Most crime is under 25, poor, and male.
The stat ignored is that 90% of whites are victims of violent crimes by white--same as for blacks being victims of blacks. If you are white you most likely will be the victim of a crime by a white person. If there is a crime against children it will most often come at the hands of a white male., same with rape. If you live in a poor black neighborhood your crime rates are sky high and balance out the lower crime rates in other areas.

Since people like throwing around the high percent of blacks being criminals here is some math for you....if you are in Michigan stadium for football. It holds 100,000 people.  These 100,000 people represent America so you will have 73,000 whites, 12,000 blacks, and 15,000 of everything else . Basically 37,000 are white males and 6,000 are black males. Based on crimes per capita this group will experience 466 crimes. Of those crimes 362 will be by whites and 131 will be by blacks. The percentage of blacks doing crimes is much higher but 2/3 of the people will be victims of a white criminal. Also note since over 90% of black victims are black 120 of the 131 crimes by blacks were against blacks and 1 vs other race non-white. This means 10 white people out of 100,000 will be victims of a crime by a black. 330 of the 362 victims of white criminals will be white. That means 32 of the victims of white crime will be black or other race. So a white person at the game has other whites to fear. 330 white will be victims of whites while only 10 will be the victims of blacks. Sure the percent for blacks is higher but when the population of whites is much higher you have more whites to fear. If you are white and live in a white area you will be the victim of whites, If you are black and live in Compton, south central, watts, Chicago, etc. you will be the victim of a black. Poor area have majority of crime.


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Have a fun weekend everyone. Off to Los Angeles briefly then Canada. Back here in a week. Play nice and remember----nomatter the politics or races here we are all part of the UCS family and we are all americans. I proudly served this country so all of us had venues like this to debate, argue, vent, and share. None of us here are enemies...we are just people from all walks of life with varies views and opinions (even if we think some are misguided) and sometimes we fling poo at each other like monkeys. Once again...enjoy the holiday weekend and I will eat a scoop of homemade icecream I make Saturday to toast this group here.
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So we should excuse a demographically disproportionate percentage of Black criminals based on their overall contribution to crime statistics as compared to a demographic of whites, because blacks are a minority? I call BS. I don't care what race you are, if you are a bad person, and do evil things to other human beings, you should be hung by the neck until dead.
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