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Fresh

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We can only hope that has happened. But I seriously doubt it. It would be the only sanity in this bizarro world administration. 
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Originally Posted by CoachB25
Here is what has transpired.  There are several government agencies that have been infiltrated by Obama's people who have formed a deep state.  Their goal is to take down Conservatives at all cost. Think Alinsky's Rule #10 - "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."


Thank you Coach, you done good.

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Here’s a little refresher on Clinton claiming that she doesn’t know what “C” means on a government document.

http://amp.nationalreview.com/article/441358/hillary-clinton-email-classified-information-was-obvious-her-and-she-lied?utm_source=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_medium=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_content=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_campaign=PANTHEON_STRIPPED
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The "Deep State" is part of the Right's developing framework for an explanation should this Administration be charged with any wrongdoing.  Talk radio spends hours on it.  It's meant to suggest everyone is out to get Donald Trump and any evidence found against this Administration is therefore fabricated.  We can add this current charge making the rounds to the list below:

Millions of illegals voted
Obama is a foreigner
The Clinton's murdered people
Hillary ran a child sex ring
Fed Govt was in on 9/11


These supposed Deep State individuals sure got lucky going after this President.  How in the world did they get all those in the Trump circle to spend so much time with Russians?  How did they get candidate Trump to ask for Russia's help in front of the whole world?  How did they get President Trump to be so friendly to Putin and to drag his feet implementing sanctions against Russia?  How did they get those guys to lie to the FBI?  How do you get Trump Jr to chase down some dirt on Hillary coming from a foreign adversary?  If people embedded in a "deep State" was actually a factual thing, they couldn't have had their job made any easier.

There is no "Deep State" taking on this Administration just like there was no sex ring in a pizza parlor.  People have to remember to challenge what they read on the internet.  One can't brush their teeth in this Government without somebody leaking where and when.  The fact is, with all that has happened in the last couple of years, a nation would be crazy not to investigate what the heck is going on with our elections, campaigns, and questionable Administration actions or non-actions. 




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Thanks to Coach for combating dewys stupidity, much appreciated
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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W I W, explain why Clinton was interviewed and gave statements but was never under oath?  Not one minute.  Therefore, every statement she made held no real value or threat to her should she have been caught in lies.  The reason for that is that the person who did those interviews was one of the deep state people.  Clinton could then make statements that were counter to known procedures of her office.  30,000 emails+ went missing.  She was not held accountable for any of them despite, again, investigations by government organizations including the FBI.  Explain how the guy chosen to do this investigation on Trump was a Democrat Donor and he filled his team up with others like him.  They entered this investigation with an agenda to get Trump and not, in my opinion to do a non partial investigation into the facts.  That is why this investigation is going so many different directions.  Collusion is not there so, instead, get Trump and his team on other charges that have nothing to do with the intent of the creation of this committee.  Mueller will continue this for another year if not stopped.  The Deep State in no longer fiction.  It is in operation.
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Mueller dismissed Strzok because his mere presence in the investigation would risk the legitimacy of everything Mueller is doing. 

If Mueller doesn't trust Strzok to work on his Trump collusion investigation, why should we trust Strzok's work on Clinton? His lead role on the FBI's Trump investigation? His findings and interpretations of interviews he conducted with Clinton, Mills, Abedin, and Flynn? If Mueller doesn't trust Strzok, why should we?

He changed the language in the Clinton statement to appear less damaging. He interviewed Mills and Abedin, who both lied about Clinton's email server. Neither were charged. He interviewed Flynn, who lied, and was charged. He led the FBI investigation into Trump, signed the originating documents, and was integral to the FBI's involvement in the Steele dossier. Everything he touches is determined in favor of his virulent political bias.
 
It gets worse. It's not just Strzok.  Since he was dismissed, Mueller, the DOJ, and the FBI have stonewalled Congressional oversight on the reason for his dismissal? Why?

Mueller sees Strzok for what he is - the personification of a Deep State agent. The facts speak for themselves.   
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Is the federal government bi-partisan? Hardly. Employees at the largest federal agencies heavy favored Clinton over Trump.
How heavily? Of all donations to presidential campaigns, 95% went to Clinton. In some agencies it was 99% - State, labor, Education.

Employees of the DOJ? 97% of donations went to Clinton.

 Politically active government employees are heavily biased toward Clinton and against Trump.
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2 people form a line, idiot. Ask oowwaa, everybody knows that.


Do you want to be in front in this situation?

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The truth is, you WANT Bill to have raped her, so you believe it.
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After Coach's and FIB's, left, right, left I am anxiously waiting for bamaturdkpifreshyturddewillyduaine's "substance". What's going on with Mueller's 'investigation' is clear as a bell to the rest of us.
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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From the most dishonest administration ever. trump convinces himself when he lies. He may actually believe the voice on the pussy tape isn't him. He is a pathological liar. Sociopath. Nobody worse has ever held the position.

That being said, saying someone lied to the FBI, just because the answers they gave don't fit your agenda, doesn't mean squadoosh. It is obviously against the law to give false testimony to the FBI.....ask Flynn. The rest is half truths and speculation. Dark web stuff. Conspiracies everywhere. 

"Is the federal government bi-partisan? Hardly. Employees at the largest federal agencies heavy favored Clinton over Trump.
How heavily? Of all donations to presidential campaigns, 95% went to Clinton. In some agencies it was 99% - State, labor, Education."

I'd like to know how you substantiate this statement. It is pure hogwash.
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So from a DOJ/FBI thread he talks about pussy. Thank you, I don't blame you for skipping post 66 and 67
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Fresh

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So from a DOJ/FBI thread he talks about pussy. Thank you, I don't blame you for skipping post 66 and 67


My comments were aimed directly at 66 and 67. You don't think I care what you think, do you? You're the convenient sounding board this morning. You're merely a cheerleader for the 2-3 that make me think. No original thought.
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I don't blame you for skipping post 66 and 67. I personally believe you were responding to post 70. It works everytime.
The two that make you think, LOL then you call their post hogwash and disrespect everything uwa says. LOL. Yeah I want to be on the list of those that make you think, you come here to argue and has been your motivation since you got here day one and called us a circle jerk. You're an idiot for sure

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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From the most dishonest administration ever. trump convinces himself when he lies. He may actually believe the voice on the pussy tape isn't him. He is a pathological liar. Sociopath. Nobody worse has ever held the position.

That being said, saying someone lied to the FBI, just because the answers they gave don't fit your agenda, doesn't mean squadoosh. It is obviously against the law to give false testimony to the FBI.....ask Flynn. The rest is half truths and speculation. Dark web stuff. Conspiracies everywhere. 

"Is the federal government bi-partisan? Hardly. Employees at the largest federal agencies heavy favored Clinton over Trump.
How heavily? Of all donations to presidential campaigns, 95% went to Clinton. In some agencies it was 99% - State, labor, Education."

I'd like to know how you substantiate this statement. It is pure hogwash.

You don't have to substantiate the statement.  Just show that Stzrok and McCabe were ultra partisan, and it undoes their efforts.  House oversight of the investigation will tear into the Mueller investigation starting now.   Let's see what they find.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh
 

"Is the federal government bi-partisan? Hardly. Employees at the largest federal agencies heavy favored Clinton over Trump.
How heavily? Of all donations to presidential campaigns, 95% went to Clinton. In some agencies it was 99% - State, labor, Education."

I'd like to know how you substantiate this statement. It is pure hogwash.


"Pure hogwash." [rofl]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/302817-government-workers-shun-trump-give-big-money-to-clinton-campaign
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Stop posting links to the dark web. I don't want to get a virus
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DOJ to hand over Stzrok's text messages to the House Intel Committee.  Next will be McCabe's communications.

Mueller's probe is quickly unwinding.
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You don't have to substantiate the statement.  Just show that Stzrok and McCabe were ultra partisan, and it undoes their efforts.  House oversight of the investigation will tear into the Mueller investigation starting now.   Let's see what they find.


What substantiates your claim that they were ULTRA PARTISAN? Do you even know what the text said? Can a person not like someone and still do their job ? 
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What substantiates your claim that they were ULTRA PARTISAN? Do you even know what the text said? Can a person not like someone and still do their job ? 

Apparently, not when the job is an unbiased prosecution of a case.   Hence Mueller firing, "from the case", Stzrok.  Right?

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Fresh

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Well, this means they will soon be available to the public. The intel committee will never be able to keep them under wraps. We'll see the terrible things Stzrok said about trump. Hope he didn't think he was a liar. Ignorant. Foolish. Panderer. Duplicitous. Self-serving. Liar. Bannon pawn. 

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DOJ to hand over Stzrok's text messages to the House Intel Committee.  Next will be McCabe's communications.

Mueller's probe is quickly unwinding. Foolish assessment, purely wishful thinking.
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Well, this means they will soon be available to the public. The intel committee will never be able to keep them under wraps. We'll see the terrible things Stzrok said about trump. Hope he didn't think he was a liar. Ignorant. Foolish. Panderer. Duplicitous. Self-serving. Liar. Bannon pawn. 


If they show bias:
- Clinton email investigation reopens.
- Abedin and Mills investigation reopens, they clearly lied to investigators.
- Flynns matter is vacated.
- Mueller losses his investigation.


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keepinitreal

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More common sense from uwa, fresh will have none of this
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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What they have on Strzok and FBI so far is pretty damning:
- Strzok was a key figure in the clearly false Russian Piss Dossier.
- An informant has testified to the House Intelligence Committee that there is 'documentary evidence' the Strzok was purportedly obstructing the House probe into the dossier. 
- Nunes has formally charged the FBI with contempt for refusing the present Strzok for testimony, and for refusing to produce documents related to the investigation. 
- Judicial Watch release email the showed clear bias from FBI's Weissmann.
 



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I warned Libs to watch what they wish for when a special prosecutor was appointed for the Russia investigation. I advised Liberals that special prosecutors and their investigators are free to follow any lead they find, including those that might lead to the Clinton campaign, and the Clinton foundation involvement with Russia. If Mueller's investigation is reviewed by Congress, it is very possible that another special prosecutor could be appointed to investigate request for FISA warrants based on a dossier that was handed to the FBI by "unnamed" individuals. Further, the use of intelligence agencies to use surveillance on a candidate for President could have far reaching implications.
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I warned Libs to watch what they wish for when a special prosecutor was appointed for the Russia investigation. I advised Liberals that special prosecutors and their investigators are free to follow any lead they find, including those that might lead to the Clinton campaign, and the Clinton foundation involvement with Russia. If Mueller's investigation is reviewed by Congress, it is very possible that another special prosecutor could be appointed to investigate request for FISA warrants based on a dossier that was handed to the FBI by "unnamed" individuals. Further, the use of intelligence agencies to use surveillance on a candidate for President could have far reaching implications.


Noteworthy to this, Flynn's plea deal compels him to inform the investigation of any unlawful activity he is aware of.

He held a top intel post with Obama for over two years. He was NSA advisor to Trump for 24 days.

His lawyer has said Flynn has a story to tell, and welcomes the opportunity to tell it. Think he might have anything from his two years under Obama?
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What substantiates your claim that they were ULTRA PARTISAN? Do you even know what the text said? Can a person not like someone and still do their job ? 


What we do know is that these texts that were sent were so offensive that Strzok was removed from the investigation.  How much more evidence do you need?

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Most FBI are Republicans, they just are not Trump "burn the FBI down" Republicans.
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Noteworthy to this, Flynn's plea deal compels him to inform the investigation of any unlawful activity he is aware of.

He held a top intel post with Obama for over two years. He was NSA advisor to Trump for 24 days.

His lawyer has said Flynn has a story to tell, and welcomes the opportunity to tell it. Think he might have anything from his two years under Obama?

unmasking will come out.  It will be devastating to the dems.

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Most FBI are Republicans, they just are not Trump "burn the FBI down" Republicans.

dohbummer installed many extreme loyalists in the FBI.  That is what is coming out.

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