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Even the guy that fired him. 
Time to get the rancor and blatant partisanship out of our investigations.  Don't you think?


Everybody knows he didn't fire him. He has been relocated to other duties. Mueller can't give aluminum foil hat guys like you any reason to doubt him. Everybody knows that.

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Mueller and Comey are Republicans (Comey now an independent) so Party affiliation doesn't matter to this Administration.  This WH is right and everyone else is wrong.
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We are doing our best to drain the swamp, and remove the deep state abc agency heads. You might consider joining us and vote for a candidate outside the establishment that has screwed us over forever. Remember, Bernie was an alternative candidate, and just like Trump, was screwed over by establishment pols.
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Everybody knows he didn't fire him. He has been relocated to other duties. Mueller can't give aluminum foil hat guys like you any reason to doubt him. Everybody knows that.

He fired him from the investigation of Trump.  bye bye

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But dewy mentioned Logan Act and freshy tagged along. The 2 man circle jerk must need reinforcements
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But dewy mentioned Logan Act and freshy tagged along. The 2 man circle jerk must need reinforcements


2 people form a line, idiot. Ask oowwaa, everybody knows that.

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Everybody knows it isn't all they've got. It's just all they need for n ow to run out the bigger rats. Really gets good when the big rats offspring get called in. Everybody knows that's when trump will step on his dick. 


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Everybody knows it isn't all they've got. It's just all they need for n ow to run out the bigger rats. Really gets good when the big rats offspring get called in. Everybody knows that's when trump will step on his dick. 




Again opinion, no facts, no links, just one dumb phuck opinion

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Who the F is everybody that Pop n Fresh keeps referring to?
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Terp, on Hillary's FBI interview, it was more a sidebar to my post rather than the main gist, and it obviously slipped my mind that they did release such gems as:
"I don't recall,"
"I don't know"
and the instant classic...
"I don't know what 'C' means on classified documents."

Thanks for the reminder!

btw, this link is *all* the files the FBI released on their Clinton investigation. 

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

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Got home and checked the news of the day, it seems this story picked up a lot of steam since last night.

One thing I find particularly curious about Strzok, we know Mueller's team is loaded with Democrats, many of them Clinton and Obama campaign donors, so why would the pro-clinton bias of one FBI guy be any different? Why would the Mueller, the DOJ, and the FBI all stonewall the House Intel Committee on the reason for his dismissal?

I was thinking there must be something more going on, as mentioned last night, and sure enough, today we learned he had his fingers in a whole lot of pies, more than I can recount off the top of my head, with still more likely coming; and the more we learn, the more it raises the possibility that cases he has worked are tainted by his political bias. This obviously looms as a huge problem for the FBI, which may explain their lack of transparency, which is turn has become a problem, with House Intel now drafting subpoenas to compel testimony and document production.

Right now, Strzok is the focus, to be expected, but this all goes well beyond Strzok. He's being sacrificed to prevent Mueller's investigation from being derailed, along with every other investigation Strzok worked on. It's the old "look, a squirrel!" gambit that Obama frequently employed.

But this time it may not work. This time they can't simply stonewall. The clock is running out.

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I thought the outing of Strzok may have been connected to the pending release of an OIG report, but it appears that report won't be completed until Spring '18.

What is the OIG investigating? Here is the announcement of the investigation into the DOJ and FBI. Note the date is 1/12/17, prior to Obama leaving office. It is his Department of Justice and FBI, and his appointees, who are being investigated. 

(Curiously, Hillary Clinton and her campaign were at the forefront of the complaints about the FBI, suggesting Comey had cost her the election. So this wasn't initiated solely, if at all, at the behest of Trump or the GOP.  It's entirely fair to say that both sides, at various times, have attacked the FBI and questioned it's conduct. 

DOJ OIG Announces Initiation of Review

Department of Justice Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz announced today that, in response to requests from numerous Chairmen and Ranking Members of Congressional oversight committees, various organizations, and members of the public, the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will initiate a review of allegations regarding certain actions by the Department of Justice (Department) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in advance of the 2016 election. Cognizant of the scope of the OIG’s jurisdiction under Section 8E of the Inspector General Act, the review will examine the following issues:

  • Allegations that Department or FBI policies or procedures were not followed in connection with, or in actions leading up to or related to, the FBI Director’s public announcement on July 5, 2016, and the Director’s letters to Congress on October 28 and November 6, 2016, and that certain underlying investigative decisions were based on improper considerations;
  • Allegations that the FBI Deputy Director should have been recused from participating in certain investigative matters;
  • Allegations that the Department’s Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs improperly disclosed non-public information to the Clinton campaign and/or should have been recused from participating in certain matters;
  • Allegations that Department and FBI employees improperly disclosed non-public information; and
  • Allegations that decisions regarding the timing of the FBI’s release of certain Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) documents on October 30 and November 1, 2016, and the use of a Twitter account to publicize same, were influenced by improper considerations.

The review will not substitute the OIG’s judgment for the judgments made by the FBI or the Department regarding the substantive merits of investigative or prosecutive decisions. Finally, if circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise during the course of the review.

According to the last line, it appears the OIG is looking at just about everything, and everyone, apparently without limit.

Based on various accounts today, it seems there may be a second Special Counsel investigation, this one into these and other matters arising from conduct of officials during the Obama administration.


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You are falling for the trump MO on slipping the noose.
1)Do whatever you please.
2)When confronted, ignore it
3)When confronted, deny it
4)Once you can come up with a reason for your actions, promote the new set of "facts"
5)Deny, deny, deny
6)Exaggerate the positives, refuse to mention the negatives
7)Constantly attack the source, the messenger
8)Through associates, introduce masses of peripheral, unrelated matters to muddy the waters further
9)Refer to 1 and continue

Pour out the cool aid.


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FIB don't let that naysayer screw up your thread, he'll torpedo it if he we allow it. He asks for substance, you laid out the substance with facts. Ignore the angry bamaturd reincarnation. This thread could be the bamaturdkpifreshyturddewillyduaine Waterloo


True to form here she is, no substance attack the messenger with silliness

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The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board calls on Mueller to resign

Mueller’s Credibility Problem
The special counsel is stonewalling Congress and protecting the FBI.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318

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In fairness to Strzok, he wasn’t the person who came up with the language Coney used to describe Clinton’s actions.

Those words came directly from Barack Obama, long before Coney used them.

So really, how independent was the FBI and DOJ when they chose to exonerate Obama’s preferred candidate to replace him? Obama literally dictated the outcome of the investigation to Comey - while it was still ongoing.

http://amp.nationalreview.com/corner/451053/not-comeys-decision-exonerate-hillary-obamas-decision

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In fairness to Strzok, he wasn’t the person who came up with the language Coney used to describe Clinton’s actions. Those words came directly from Barack Obama, long before Coney used them. So really, how independent was the FBI and DOJ when they chose to exonerate Obama’s preferred candidate to replace him? Obama literally dictated the outcome of the investigation to Comey - while it was still ongoing. http://amp.nationalreview.com/corner/451053/not-comeys-decision-exonerate-hillary-obamas-decision
To me this is still on Strzok.  He was in the FBI.  The FBI definitely claims to be non-partizan.  This was clearly a partizan act.


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Here is a full list of Strzok's involvements:
- Heavily involved in Clinton investigation. 
- Did the Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills interviews where they clearly lied about not knowing about Ciintons email server.
- Changed the wording from "Gross Negligence" a felony to "extremely careless".  Should not even matter, cause the statute in question states that Clinton broke the law.
- Trick interview on Flynn.  Flynn was never read his rights, and had no legal counsel in the interview.  They used that interview to trump up false lying charges about something Flynn did not even need to lie about because it was legal.
-  Strzok's interview of Flynn's official summary is now being questioned.  Good chance Flynn charge is thrown out.


The right was promised that the FBI is not biased.  Turns out we were lied to.  

- Wall Street Journal calls for Mueller to step down.  State that Mueller has demonstrated inability to run unbaised investigation.   Wall Street Journal cited Muellers close friendship with fired and disgraced Comey, and reluctance to cooperate with proper congressional oversight.
- WaPo is calling for a special counsel to investigate Muellers investigation. 
- Former US attorney Andrew McCarthy is calling for investigation into credibility of Mueller's year long investigation. 

We all knew the lame attempts by the Democratic party to undo a duely elected president, and ignore the votes of the people of the United States would go badly for them. 

This is big news.  I enjoy greatly Fresh's mumbling replies. 

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https://thefederalist.com/2017/12/05/what-we-know-about-dismissed-fbi-agent-flynn-hillary-emails/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/04/anti-trump-fbi-agent-bombshell-has-the-spotlight-on-mueller-now/

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This is big news.  I enjoy greatly Fresh's mumbling replies. 


Found fresh out this morning going through the trash mumbling to himself
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Mueller is above reproach and any efforts to have him removed is out of fear. He can't control the ill advised feelings of his staff, he can only respond when brought to his attention. trump turning up the heat is a sign it's getting scary at the WH. Do you want the truth or a whitewash? If it's truth, you want Mueller.
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Mueller is above reproach and any efforts to have him removed is out of fear. He can't control the ill advised feelings of his staff, he can only respond when brought to his attention. trump turning up the heat is a sign it's getting scary at the WH. Do you want the truth or a whitewash? If it's truth, you want Mueller.

Congress has appropriate oversight of DOJ for this vary reason.  In case a partizan nut job gets in to the FBI and starts to reek havoc. 

Mueller should be replaced.  The investigation can continue without the cloud Mueller has created.

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Congress has appropriate oversight of DOJ for this vary reason.  In case a partizan nut job gets in to the FBI and starts to reek havoc. 

Mueller should be replaced.  The investigation can continue without the cloud Mueller has created.


No cloud, just fear from you trumpets that he will get to the truth. Typical trump smoke screen. Mueller was roundly acclaimed upon being chosen. Now the trump mafia spins their lying, deceitful web of minor incidents and you all go bat sh1t crazy. The partisan nut job was a senior FBI investigator that had seen the real dirt on trump and was sickened by what he saw. He texted his girl friend. His girl friend. He wasn't trying to influence anyone, he was texting his girl friend. We all hope to be able to find consolation in our loved ones. This was no attempt to sway the investigation. 

Nice try though.

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No cloud, just fear from you trumpets that he will get to the truth. Typical trump smoke screen. Mueller was roundly acclaimed upon being chosen. Now the trump mafia spins their lying, deceitful web of minor incidents and you all go bat sh1t crazy. The partisan nut job was a senior FBI investigator that had seen the real dirt on trump and was sickened by what he saw. He texted his girl friend. His girl friend. He wasn't trying to influence anyone, he was texting his girl friend. We all hope to be able to find consolation in our loved ones. This was no attempt to sway the investigation. 

Nice try though.

USA Today, Wapo, wall street journal all calling for special counsel to look into Mueller.  Some are calling for Mueller to be moved on.

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USA Today, Wapo, wall street journal all calling for special counsel to look into Mueller.  Some are calling for Mueller to be moved on.


Momentum is growing, going to be a great year.  Finally put the muh collusion, muh obstruction BS to rest.  Can't wait to see what they hitch their wagon to next

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Momentum is growing, going to be a great year.  Finally put the muh collusion, muh obstruction BS to rest.  Can't wait to see what they hitch their wagon to next

It will definitely be another circular nuthouse construct

                                 AAAAAAAA
                               /                   \
                     BBBBB       Salt        CCCCCCCCCCCC
                             \                       /
                                 DDDDDDDDD

then round and round they go.  When the salt flows nobody knows. 



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Momentum is growing, going to be a great year.  Finally put the muh collusion, muh obstruction BS to rest.  Can't wait to see what they hitch their wagon to next


You wish. Only the end of the beginning. Next round, bigger rats.

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We can only hope that has happened. But I seriously doubt it. It would be the only sanity in this bizarro world administration. 
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Here is what has transpired.  There are several government agencies that have been infiltrated by Obama's people who have formed a deep state.  Their goal is to take down Conservatives at all cost. Think Alinsky's Rule #10 - "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."


Thank you Coach, you done good.

"It is difficult to follow the bouncing ball but it's critical Americans try. Give politics your sincere attention. Your Country deserves as much."

Your country deserves as much

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Here’s a little refresher on Clinton claiming that she doesn’t know what “C” means on a government document.

http://amp.nationalreview.com/article/441358/hillary-clinton-email-classified-information-was-obvious-her-and-she-lied?utm_source=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_medium=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_content=PANTHEON_STRIPPED&utm_campaign=PANTHEON_STRIPPED

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