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Will_I_Wynn

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If Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress, does it matter to Trump supporters? Simple question.


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5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

EarlyGrayce

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Sounds like someone thinks it is ok if Obama lies.



Of course, the leftists had no problem with the many lies that obama told.

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EarlyGrayce

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And now we get why the buzzfeed announcement had to drop. 

Ohr’s Testimony: Is It Enough To Launch DOJ Investigation Into FISA Abuse?

"DOJ official Bruce Ohr revealed last August in closed-door congressional testimony that he had informed three top senior Justice Department and FBI officials in the summer of 2016 about his meetings with former British spy Christopher Steele. Ohr told these officials about Steele’s animus toward Trump and that the dossier was not verified. Further, he informed the officials that he was also in communication with Glenn Simpson, the founder of embattled research firm Fusion GPS."

Ohr's testimony is enough to initiate a DOJ

https://saraacarter.com/ohrs-testimony-is-it-enough-to-launch-doj-investigation-into-fisa-abuse/



Like clockwork haha gotta admire buzzfeed's complete lack of journalistic integrity, they chasing cnn and nyt for worst fake news site?

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uwApoligist

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Like clockwork haha gotta admire buzzfeed's complete lack of journalistic integrity, they chasing cnn and nyt for worst fake news site?

buzzfeed is the easy leader in that race.  Everyone is chasing them.  They are ahead of Huff, snopees, all of them.  Maybe even ahead of Vox and Vanity Fair.

I think they are just repeating the DNC shill marching orders.

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keepinitreal

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Of course, the leftists of UCS had no problem with the many lies that Dewey told.


I have a problem with this liar running off before he explained to us, he used his phone and an all-star game as cover.  Dewey was a DOJ mole in another life, he was going to straighten ForeverInBlue out once and for all and he swooped on us.

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FIB - You are getting all mixed up. You're confusing court approval for DOJ subpoenas with FISA court approval for national security issues. I'd fully explain the distinction but it's too hard to do on my phone while I'm at my granddaughter's All Star game. Maybe later.

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keepinitreal

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FIBs response to Dewey bailing on his 'explanation'.

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Dewey- let me save you the time. I may be confused with so many scandals going on, but if it was a critical point I would have looked it up. The fact is they're trying to suppress a court ruling related to one of the scandals. That alone is a red flag for me. Besides, it would probably be a long reply, and I don't often read your long posts - like the scandals, they tend to blur. Besides I already read most of the talking points so pretty much know your response before you type it - kind of like the NSA under O'Stalin.

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Will_I_Wynn

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I understand if some on the Right think buzzfeed is lying or wrong.  That's your prerogative.  They might be.  However, the question is unrelated to your belief on this particular issue.  I repeat, if Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress, does it matter to Trump supporters?


"The BuzzFeed story also claims that Cohen confirmed this information to special counsel Robert Mueller after "the special counsel's office learned about Trump's directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents."

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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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I have a problem with this liar running off before he explained to us, he used his phone and an all-star game as cover.  Dewey was a DOJ mole in another life, he was going to straighten ForeverInBlue out once and for all and he swooped on us.


That dewey cat used to come up with the most dewpatheticals.  Bascially saying the facts of a case do not matter, only the potential for their having been a crime.  Everyone sees through the obvious stupidity of his statements and just ignored him.  Seems they have gotten even better at it now.

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uwApoligist

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James Baker on the hot seat now.  

A former top FBI lawyer acknowledged he was personally involved in the warrant application to surveil then-Trump campaign aide Carter Page and confirmed other "unusual" steps taken in the FBI’s Russia probe in 2016, during a closed-door congressional interview.

“I was aware of the [Russia] investigation,” James Baker"

Worked directly with Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie (DNC's operatives that were engaged with the KGB!). 


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-top-fbi-lawyer-personally-involved-in-fisa-warrant-for-trump-aide-other-russia-probe-irregularities-transcript-shows

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Will_I_Wynn

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This is an old interview which Fox News recently got hold of in a transcript. If the man had done wrong, Trump’s DOJ would have taken him down by now. Maybe they’re running behind. In any case, people who do wrong should be held accountable. I’ll leave it to the DOJ to do their job.

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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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James Baker on the hot seat now.  

A former top FBI lawyer acknowledged he was personally involved in the warrant application to surveil then-Trump campaign aide Carter Page and confirmed other "unusual" steps taken in the FBI’s Russia probe in 2016, during a closed-door congressional interview.

“I was aware of the [Russia] investigation,” James Baker"

Worked directly with Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie (DNC's operatives that were engaged with the KGB!). 


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-top-fbi-lawyer-personally-involved-in-fisa-warrant-for-trump-aide-other-russia-probe-irregularities-transcript-shows





What a criminal mess that obama's various lackey agency's left behind.

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spazsdad

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Off topic but still DOJ
A DNA-testing company says it will share data with the FBI, giving investigators access to genetic information linked to hundreds of millions of people
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What could possibly go wrong...
uwApoligist

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Off topic but still DOJ
A DNA-testing company says it will share data with the FBI, giving investigators access to genetic information linked to hundreds of millions of people

If you don't think they already have both the major DNA labs 23andme and Ancestry (acquisition) you are nuts. 

About 5 years ago about 6 months after these services took off there was a privacy/security researcher that noted an uptick in cases where the police and fbi appeared to magically be stumbling on DNA matches.  There was quite a bit of speculation on how they were doing it.  But after 12 months or so everyone was convinced that 23andme and Ancestry had both been compromised.  They then set about pulling in all the End User License Agreements from these 2 companies and noticed pretty quickly that there were noticeable EULA, more or less allowing these companies to answer governmental requests without going back to the customer.  Language that previously included 'when presented with a warrant' was removed. 

Just like back in 2005 or so when magically a number of people were getting charged with child pornography, and the only thing that the FBI kept going back to was that they had suspicious searches that triggered them.  Turns out, the NSA had dug up a number of googles data center processing lines and were reading search requests being processed in googles servers.  They would then obtain a warrant, and search the suspects home computer.  Find these searches they already knew about, and boom, charges.   Google has since encrypted all of their traffic not directly in their control. 

A number of high tech companies tried to add back in language that said they would only work with government requests when presented with a warrant.  Rumors were that the FISA stuff had eliminated any protection these clauses may have had, so companies felt a bit more honest just removing them.  

So yeah.  Pretty much guaranteed that if it helps them find criminals, they have it in their hands somewhere. 



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uwApoligist

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Mueller now under investigation by the DOJ.  Seems he cut his, and Bill Clinton's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal.  So sweet, it is likely a problem. 

[MUYyuWC] 

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keepinitreal

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Dirty dems are dirty from the top down
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Fresh

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Mueller now under investigation by the DOJ.  Seems he cut his, and Bill Clinton's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal.  So sweet, it is likely a problem. 

[MUYyuWC] 


You are so damn stupid sometimes. Mueller isn't like trump. No matter how you want him to be, this will be bullsh1t, just like the other times you tried to make a case against him. He's straight, something trumpies don't care about, or furthermore, understand. Whatever to get your way. Ain't going to last much longer.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
Will_I_Wynn

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Mueller now under investigation by the DOJ.  Seems he cut his, and Bill Clinton's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal.  So sweet, it is likely a problem. 

 


I read this and all I can think about is the accusation Democrats are brainwashed.  Btw, you're intruding on another member's turf when you start posting the supposed demise of somebody Trump supporters don't like.




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You are so damn stupid sometimes. Mueller isn't like trump. No matter how you want him to be, this will be bullsh1t, just like the other times you tried to make a case against him. He's straight, something trumpies don't care about, or furthermore, understand. Whatever to get your way. Ain't going to last much longer.

Eat a dick you pathetic fvck. Losers like you are what’s wrong with America and I wouldn’t lift a finger to save a puke like you. I wouldn’t waste my piss to put you out if you were on fire. You should be ashamed that you have a.nutsack cuz you are nothing but a pathetic, weakarse pussy. You are disgusting in every aspect. How many young ladies have you fvcked with, like rocks daughter, to make you feel like you matter.
Put your rings on your little needle dick
uwApoligist

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Mueller should not have broken the law, then there would be no need for an investigation.  None of that is my fault. 
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Not the first time with her Mueller. He has had many convictions overturne due to,his overzealous prosecution and even had an accused commit suicide even though he was shown to be not guilty after the fact. He’s a total scumbag. No wonder Fresh wants to give him a rusty trombone
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Mueller should not have broken the law, then there would be no need for an investigation.  None of that is my fault. 


In the instance you cited, what law did he break? Making a plea agreement? 

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uwApoligist

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In the instance you cited, what law did he break? Making a plea agreement? 

They are investigating the extent of and the number of laws that were broken in giving Epstein his deal.   That is why they are announcing their investigation. 

The implied laws include taking of bribes, collusion.  But it could be a way longer list. 

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Will_I_Wynn

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What an exaggeration.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-opens-probe-into-plea-bargain-awarded-by-trump-official-to-alleged-pedophile-predator-jeffrey-epstein

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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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Didn't see Mueller mentioned in the article. 
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
Will_I_Wynn

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Calling Mueller a crook is not unlike calling Hillary a crook.  For Rightists, it's less about truth and more about who can be convinced.
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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
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4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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Didn't see Mueller mentioned in the article. 



Whooops there he his. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-06/senate-investigating-mueller-fbis-prosecution-orgy-island-billionaire-jeffrey

Mueller, he would be the guy in charge.  The guy that ultimately signed off on the deal. 

Jeffrey Epstein Liberal,  Alex Acosta Liberal,  Bill Clinton Liberal, Mueller Liberal. 




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Will_I_Wynn

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I believe the DOJ signs off, not the FBI. Zero Hedge? Geez

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Will_I_Wynn

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At least read a little bit about the guy you’re accusing of being a crook.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller



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Don't trust the internet, especially snopes & wikipedia. I challenge all the new freshman parents to do their own research.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/alan-dershowitz-maybe-robert-mueller-should-be-investigated



Consider the issue of criticizing Robert Mueller, the special counsel. Any criticism or even skepticism regarding Mueller’s history is seen as motivated by a desire to help Trump. Mueller was an assistant U.S. attorney in Boston, the head of its criminal division, the head of the criminal division in Main Justice, and the director of the FBI during the most scandalous miscarriage of justice in the modern history of the FBI. Four innocent people were framed by the FBI to protect mass murdering gangsters who were working as FBI informers while they were killing innocent people. An FBI agent, who is now in prison, was tipping off Whitey Bulger as to who might testify against him so that these individuals could be killed. He also tipped off Bulger, allowing him to escape and remain on the lam for 16 years.

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