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TheNarrator

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Very true - at this point in 2010 Obama was down 55-45.

Just a point for Blitzfresh and Dewyllie that Trump's sky is not falling.  Those numbers are actually good.
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I think it all depends on the economy.  James Carville was always right about this.
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I'm leaving the Democratic Party today. They're complicit w/ every single young person living in fear. Every pain Latino & immigrant families feel from here out is 100% due to not fully embracing us as American. Implicit racism is equally as harmful. I'm done.


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The polls said Hillary would win..........

Instead, Hillary sent back the fireworks she had bought.............Should've made the pollsters pay for 'em.........
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She did win. Electoral college was so close, the Russian meddling and Comey screw up sealed the deal. Perfect storm.
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She did win. Electoral college was so close, the Russian meddling and Comey screw up sealed the deal. Perfect storm.


Then why isn't she in the White House?  And what happened to the Electoral College?  I missed that it wasn't in use anymore.

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Fresh, you're incoherent...........Drink lots of water, it'll nourish your brain and your thinking.........The brain should be 75% water..........Your brain is functioning on probably a third-of that..........You need water..........If you don't like water, put a splash of grape juice in it - it'll make it easier to drink.........You'll need around 10 glasses-a-day to keep your brain nourished and be coherent.................
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She did win. Electoral college was so close, the Russian meddling and Comey screw up sealed the deal. Perfect storm.


And you have the audacity to call someone else a moron?

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Fresh, you're incoherent...........Drink lots of water, it'll nourish your brain and your thinking.........The brain should be 75% water..........Your brain is functioning on probably a third-of that..........You need water..........If you don't like water, put a splash of grape juice in it - it'll make it easier to drink.........You'll need around 10 glasses-a-day to keep your brain nourished and be coherent.................


I think his TFH is out of date, needs updating but yes, the lack of water can cause many side affects that are being exhibited by this lost soul.   Failure to keep up with current events, quick to anger, extreme conspiracy theories,  unable to form social relationships, all could be attributed to lack of water and/or oxygen.



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Probably also exacerbates freshy's chronic UTI. Itchy tube is no laughing matter.
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Probably also exacerbates freshy's chronic UTI. Itchy tube is no laughing matter.


That's why he utilized the strap-on

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More votes for Hillary. Electoral college broke in trump's favor due to email disclosure and Russian social media campaign. It created fanatics like you guys. The FBI is fine and will figure out what's going on. Nunes is going to be exposed for the trump lackey he is. Too many trump people lie and refuse to testify. Don jr used client privelege. Get real. If you got nothing to hide, you don't have to lie.
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I believe it “broke in his favor” due to more votes in more states. Total votes don’t matter.

If we can tell you are trolling it doesn’t count. This lesson is free.
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Durden you have great comprehension skills as witnessed in the previous post.........bluedog was incorrect.......you have keen insight......Fresh is a troll......his opinion is worth nada.......or should I say caca
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Definitive ranking from CNN:
1 - Biden
2 - Warren
3 - Harris
4 - Gillibrand
5 - Sanders
6 - Patrick (Former MA Governor)
7 - Booker
8 - Garcetti (Mayor of LA)
9 - Klobuchar (Senator from MN)
10 - Bullock - (Gov. of Wyoming)

If I'm a dem - this doesn't really excite me.  Not sure who could beat Trump.  Gillibrand may have a shot, but not sure if they go female two times in a row.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/2020-democrats-biden/index.html
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Where is the porn star lawyer? You know the one that knows how to fight President Trump
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Originally Posted by TheNarrator
Definitive ranking from CNN:
1 - Biden
2 - Warren
3 - Harris
4 - Gillibrand
5 - Sanders
6 - Patrick (Former MA Governor)
7 - Booker
8 - Garcetti (Mayor of LA)
9 - Klobuchar (Senator from MN)
10 - Bullock - (Gov. of Wyoming)

If I'm a dem - this doesn't really excite me.  Not sure who could beat Trump.  Gillibrand may have a shot, but not sure if they go female two times in a row.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/2020-democrats-biden/index.html

This is from a guy that said that Trump cannot win just 2 years ago.  Said it numerous times and believed it.  That should worry dems.

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You've got issues my friend - just posting some names with some commentary.

If you want me to post everything you have said that is wrong, we will need a record setting thread.

I know you are hoping they put someone up you can vote for, but I don't see anyone on that list that would excite you like Obama did.
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Where is the porn star lawyer? You know the one that knows how to fight President Trump


Evidently hasn't cracked the top 10 yet.  Might make an appearance if they find another Trump payoff.  He needs to create something to keep his name out there.
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You've got issues my friend - just posting some names with some commentary.

If you want me to post everything you have said that is wrong, we will need a record setting thread.

I know you are hoping they put someone up you can vote for, but I don't see anyone on that list that would excite you like Obama did.

Just picking at the Dems for having zero for presidential candidates.

nope.  even voted for those losers McCain and Romney.  Horrible candidates.  Republican party is doing just fine for me.  AFC always fiscally conservative.



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The best thing about 2020 will possibly be the Democrat party splitting apart. The GOP had and continues to have fractures between Trump supporters, RINOS, COC eRepublicans. and conservatives. I predict in 2020 that the DNC which made rule changes during and shortly after the Clinton campaigns cash buyout may well come into play. The specific rule I speak of is that any primary candidate must be a declared Democrat to run on the party ticket. This rule was likely implemented as a response to the Sanders campaign in 2016. Should Bernie decide to run in 2020, he will likely do so as an Independent. In doing so, many of the people that supported him in 2016 would likely continue that support thereby siphoning off votes from a Democrat candidate during the general election. It would be a Ross Perot moment for the DNC, but could pull 30% or more of the Democrats voting base. In that case, DJT is POTUS for a second term.
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The best thing about 2020 will possibly be the Democrat party splitting apart. The GOP had and continues to have fractures between Trump supporters, RINOS, COC eRepublicans. and conservatives. I predict in 2020 that the DNC which made rule changes during and shortly after the Clinton campaigns cash buyout may well come into play. The specific rule I speak of is that any primary candidate must be a declared Democrat to run on the party ticket. This rule was likely implemented as a response to the Sanders campaign in 2016. Should Bernie decide to run in 2020, he will likely do so as an Independent. In doing so, many of the people that supported him in 2016 would likely continue that support thereby siphoning off votes from a Democrat candidate during the general election. It would be a Ross Perot moment for the DNC, but could pull 30% or more of the Democrats voting base. In that case, DJT is POTUS for a second term.

Good points. 

I think the RNC is more unified then has been for some time.  Trump has 89% approval amongst Republicans.  Trump candidates have done very well in the primaries. 

Sure there are the nevertrumpers, but for a vocal as they are, they really do not seem to be much of a voting block.   The eGOP remains problematic because Ryan and McConnell remain in charge.   I would love for them to give Trump some ACA teardown goodness and smaller spending budgets, but they seem unable to do much in that regard.  Outside of that they are pretty harmless and have little power, for instance, in selecting candidates, and pushing anti trump agendas. 

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While they did formulate the Trump budget, he signed it.  Other than that, he has outperformed expectations.  As of now I will be voting for him.

McConnell is the architect of Trump's biggest achievement.  I would say Republicans are more pragmatic at this point than dems.
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While they did formulate the Trump budget, he signed it.  Other than that, he has outperformed expectations.  As of now I will be voting for him.

McConnell is the architect of Trump's biggest achievement.  I would say Republicans are more pragmatic at this point than dems.

Agree, trump signed, he should of vetoed.  Would of caused temporary party turmoil but would have put republicans on a solid path to fiscally righting the ship.  At least Trump felt he was trapped in a corner to sign, and openly says now he wish he would not have signed it.  Unlike Ryan/McConnell who got great joy, even giddy, in their government largess.   For me that is different why the eGOP continues to lose ground.  Anyway for now we have spending and deficits.

McConnell was indeed architect of Gorsuch win.  When it comes to wonking about in the Senate McConnell is solid, may even be top 5.  Just not that big of a fan of his extremely soft leadership style, it looks very smoky backroom to me.   Also not a fan of his excessive spending budgets. 

McConnell has definitely weakened republicans hand by not allowing bills to get passed through reconciliation.  Dems openly pushed reconciliation boundaries to new heights.  The upside of McConnells strategy is that the bills that are passing are much more likely to stick, as legislature tend not to over turn a straight passed bill as quickly as one passed through reconciliation. 




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Scotty has nothing better to do but spend his days here counting down with make believe timers, this thread is about to celebrate it's 1 year anniversary with zero coherent posts from the Dems.  One can only assume, their cupboard is bare and they are embarrased to admit it, can't hardly blame them.

1 year, no legitimate candidates, so sad

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I don't see where Dems have much hope, this thread says it all, their silence is deafening.  I think he wins by forfeit. 



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Here is phase one of the DNC internal fracture. Super delegates are not going to be allowed to vote on the first ballot of the nomination process, but will instead vote on the second ballot. Super Delegates as I understand are about 15% of the delegate count. This means that a group of party insiders have the ability to control who the party's nominee is in a close contest. Bernie won't even be on the Democrat primary ballot unless he switches party. If he runs, as an Independent, it is not GOP voters he will be pulling away from their party, it will be a drain on the Democrat base. I wonder how the DNC will react to a potential Independent run by Bernie.

This is a start, but nowhere near allowing the democrat electorate to actually have control of the party nomination. Why the Democrat base allows an elitist group of more equal animals to have more power than an average Democrat voter in the nomination process is beyond comprehension.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/403601-sanders-praises-decision-to-limit-role-of-superdelegates-after-2016-primary

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Baffling indeed. And the resident libs dewfreshkazooterpdc will be silent on why they support the 'super delegate' process. I assume fresh simply doesn't understand the implications, he is new to politics and not very sharp. But what's dewey's excuse?
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There was definitely a quid pro quo playing out in the Dem party.   Bernie supporter are like 4x as salty as run of the mill Democrats over 2016 and what the Dems did to Bernie.  So they were making  super hard push to completely get rid of super delegate system.  The mainline Dems demanded that they first pass a rule that says you must be a Democrat to get the parties nomination.  They passed that, and this super delegate vote was the pay back.

It is interesting to understand why Dems passed the Super Delegate system in the first place. 
To understand that you first have to go 1968 and the Democrats largely selected candidates through the party machinery, candidates were largely elected by party bosses and a few primaries.  In 1968 the soul of the Democratic populace had shifted massively to an anti-war footing.  The party officials thought that an ani-war firebrand would be a disaster and went with pro-war

The video below is kind of fun.  You essentially have a extremely Democrat machine controlled city.  The city uses their largely Democrat police force to beat and control another bunch of democrats    Chicago erupted into massive riots and fires.   The national guard had to be called out.  Despite attempts by the Dems to blame republicans, there was no doubt this was a democrat on democrat action.

Based on the happenings at the DNC convention the democrats were forced to seek a primary system that were more focused on primaries and caucus mechanisms and less so democrat machine bosses.  So they put in a primary and caucus system that for the first time let democrat voters select candidates.  

The problem is that democrats voters seemed to vote only on their emotions.  So they would select they tended to select the candidate that was a firebrand for the emotional issue that day.   Leading to candidates like McGovern, destroyed in 1972 and Carter who was destroyed at that ballot box in 1980.  It was pretty clear that if this continued the Democrats would be a minor party non influential party.  Beside Barracks time in office, they have effectively not had position of any power since Kennedy.

The DNC felt the pendulum had swung to far and their electorate sucked at picking candidates.  So they implemented the super delegate system, which placed party machine bosses in not elected but placed positions, called super delegates.  These super delegates were purposely placed and not influenced by popular electoral opinion swings.

Then yesterday.  We have the DNC passing a reform package which effectively sidelines the superdelegates.  They remain on the sideline until the election deadlocks or until the outcome is assured.  This has not happened in decades.

Had these DNC primary reforms taken place prior to 2016, Sanders would have been elected. 

It is pretty easy to predict that once again the Democrats will find that their voting base struggles massively with hot button emotional issues of the day.  They will put forward the firebrand for their issue, only to find that in 6 months from their primaries to the main election their hot button issue has slid off the front page, and they themselves will no longer remember why they voted for that loser.  

You see that play out here massively everyday.  The "McCain sucks" for 6 years, then "What the hell, we love McCain' cause he said one negative thing about Trump typifies why Democrats will largely remain irrelevant for the foreseeable future.   Their main actual deliverables to the world being rape and calling people racists.


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