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 Meanwhile, the Trump administration has rolled back numerous environmental regulations aimed at improving our air and water quality. Oh my--how terrible!




Please be specific with each regulation so we can discuss at length

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I've seen that guy before, I think on TV.  He had no guns when he lived in NY, his little ammo shelf is stocked but if SHTF he'll live when many die.  Gotta be a little lonely with no dogs.  Wonder if Amazon delivers?

You may have to drive into town for Amazon.

Yes on the dogs.  Makes no sense not to have 2 or 3. 



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Bwahahahaha. Did you just get an update from Al Gore?
The liberal nose ring is firmly embedded in Kaplooey

And yes I thinks cigarette advertising should be allowed and the moronic warnings are just that, for morons. You think a single person has read a pack of smokes and thought “damn, these may cause a disease, I better quit”
It’s a legal product for sale in the US. I don’t smoke, I don’t care for the smell of smoke but the war on smoking is a perfect example of the over reach of the nanny state. The level of taxes placed on cigarettes is criminal and if their end game is truly to “save the chillens “ and eliminate smoking where do you think all the funding for the feel good programs that are paid for by the taxes will come from then because you know those programs won’t be eliminated. Government never gets smaller.
You are a hoot Kaplooey and I thank you for your time here. A veritable gold mine of stupidity and emotion.
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I find it hard to believe that the socialists among us romanticize China's communist run centralized government.  They seem fully unaware of the 100s of millions that have been killed by socialism.

Also it makes no sense to me why people would not want to create a fair set of trade rules and tariffs between the US and China.  China has long held a lot of rules to protect their markets.  They also taxed goods coming into China at the 50% rate, once you add in government fees and special licenses required for foreign products.   

Why does the worlds number 2 economy need such protective tariffing?  The only way to motivate a trading party to lower tariffs is to tariff them similarly.  




Socialism doesn't kill people, you dunce. Bad people do. Scandinavian countries have democratic-soclalist parties and quasi-socialistic economies (meaning simply high taxes for good government programs). I pretty sure those governments don't kill people. Socialism is about doing more for workers and promoting egalitarianism. Dictators kill people--and yea, there have been communist dictators that have killed a lot of people. But that's a personal, political, social and cultural problem, not an economic one. I don't believe Karl Marx or Eugene Debs ever advocated killing people. So stop with your right-wing nonsense. 

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2050? Have you read how fast and dramatically the oceans are warming--and the planet? The polar ice caps will be gone by 2030 if not sooner. Meanwhile, the Trump administration has rolled back numerous environmental regulations aimed at improving our air and water quality. Oh my--how terrible!

Your comment about environmentalists trying to use the government to "control everyone's behavior" is the worst sort of right-wing stupidity. Are there environmental regulations that impinge or restrict your behavior in any significant way--or even any way at all? It's a moronic comment--as are most right-wing anti-government comments. Should we get rid of seat belts and speed limits because they aim to control your behavior? How about laws aimed at preventing you from, say, killing other people. That's controlling, no? It takes a special kind of idiot to have a problem with laws and regulations aimed to keeping poisons/toxins out of the environment. Why do you think big companies fight environmental regulations? Here's the answer: because they fret that the regulations might reduce their earnings and profits by a nominal amount, which might affect big bonuses for executives. Boo who. Are there any big companies in America--utilities or energy companies--that have truly been adversely affected by environmental regulations? Has Exxon struggled because of environmental regulations? Big energy companies? Here's the answer--no. Not in the least. Their resistance is based solely on greed.

By your standards, we should bring back cigarette advertising, yes? And get rid of those "controlling" health warnings on the cigarette packages. Let's get rid of child labor laws, too, and worker-safety regulations, because maybe companies on their own will one day invent a cigarette with no nicotine, and maybe one day manufacturers will decide that employing 14-year-olds is counter-productive, yea?

The government exists for a reason--to promote the common good. We have environmental regulations because--WOW--somebody with a lot more wisdom and intelligence and FORESIGHT than you right-wing morons concluded that clean air and water might be a good thing for the people of America. (As it is, the U.S. still have many serious water and air quality problems. Much of the supposed drinking water in America has got toxins in it.) Your anti-environmental viewpoint is stupid and foolish.

Murder is a state law, not a federal law.  It is managed at the local level, unless it involves additional activities, like gangs, or crime syndicates.  Then escalates up to the state, and feds as needed.

Health warnings on a cigarettes are not worth the 0.00000001 cents it costs to print them.  Liberal feel good nonsense.  Anyone not smart enough to know smoking will kill you, is not going to suddenly read that warning and get educated.

Big energy remains important to the American way of life.  We get up, go to work, feed our families, go to school, learn, educate, it all requires energy.   Working smart to produce energy in a clean way, economically is just smart.   What you are proposing is whackmole goofiness.

Our CO2 continues on a sharp decline.  Driven by many innovative economical market driven solutions.  Meanwhile the signatories of the Paris accord continue to increase their CO2 output.  China is on a path to triple their output.  India is going up 4x.  The socialist countries of Europe you so idolize are all going up.   Meanwhile market driven capitalist in America are, of course, finding the most cost effective and innovative ways to drive our numbers down, with almost no help from the government.

Governments are great at funding raw long term fundamental research.  They should get back into that business way more.  Stay out of the markets, minus guardrail type regulation.  

Zero by 2050 would have been an impossible statement just 2 years ago.  Now it is very real.  Likely that year will be pulled in.

We are not going to just turn off all the factories, the schools, the cars, the trucks and live like it is 1200AD again.  



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Bwahahahaha. Did you just get an update from Al Gore?
The liberal nose ring is firmly embedded in Kaplooey

And yes I thinks cigarette advertising should be allowed and the moronic warnings are just that, for morons. You think a single person has read a pack of smokes and thought “damn, these may cause a disease, I better quit”
It’s a legal product for sale in the US. I don’t smoke, I don’t care for the smell of smoke but the war on smoking is a perfect example of the over reach of the nanny state. The level of taxes placed on cigarettes is criminal and if their end game is truly to “save the chillens “ and eliminate smoking where do you think all the funding for the feel good programs that are paid for by the taxes will come from then because you know those programs won’t be eliminated. Government never gets smaller.
You are a hoot Kaplooey and I thank you for your time here. A veritable gold mine of stupidity and emotion.



Ha, ha: a rube named Spaz with, what, do you even have a high-school education?--calling me stupid. By your "reasoning" we shouldn't have seat-belt laws or drunk-driving laws, correct? Is that your view? If somebody gets drunk and slams into you, tough luck, eh? What about laws preventing violence? Everybody for himself? You're a dunce. RE cigarettes, does it occur to you that people who are allowed to engage in dangerous, unhealthy habits become a risk to others and a burden on society? If some uneducated rube without health insurance drinks Coke and eats sugary food every day and then develops diabetes, he or she is going to get health treatments--health treatments that will paid for by other people in America because s/he was too stupid to take care of themselves. You do know that we've had an epidemic of diabetes in this country precisely because people consume way too much sugar. And diabetes people die earlier. I think we should go to people with diabetes and ask them if they would have welcomed more government efforts that might have prevented them from getting diabetes. You do realize that lung cancer is a very serious health issue in America--one caused in large part by smoking? And rubes and others who smoke and need ultra-expensive health treatments for years raise prices and costs throughout the system?

Dangerous behaviors and activities endanger others and are a drag on society. Unfortunately, drunks and heavy smokers don't just sit in cabins in the woods every day and then one day fall over and die. They get in cars and drive; they go to hospitals and expect treatments. And so this is why we have laws and regulations---and not enough of them, I might add. Why do you think cancer is such a massive problem? Because our environment is FULL of toxins. Sometimes it is genetic, but environmental toxins--like nicotine, like chemicals--cause cancer. Duh.

You and the rubes think its fine for an unstable boob to have a house full of guns--law-abiding gun owner! And then one day Mr. Unstable pops his top and goes out and murders people. Happens every day, MANY TIMES A DAY. Multiple that unstable boob many times over and you have the horrific gun-violence problem in America. It is common nowadays for kids to get murdered in school because moronic wingnuts like you don't believe in regulations. Government's purpose is to "promote the common good," and that is exactly what government should be doing because otherwise the dumb, dangerous behavior and activities lead to big problems for society as a whole. That's the big idea that you rubes don't seem to get.

There is economic/technological progress and there is social progress. Most of the social progress in America is thanks to government and regulations--and all of the standard talk from wingnuts about regulations constraining individual freedom is just nonsense.

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Just to play a long with a few points in your emo drivel
Seat belt laws . No
Drunk driving laws. Yes
Then you really go off the rails.
"Dangerous behavior" Oohh, I'm so scared. Just like a lib to know whats best for others. 
Your gun  scenario does not happen MANY TIMES A DAY and you have no reliable data to prove it. Gun crime is actually down in America. You know what does happen almost every day? An armed citizen is able to protect/save themselves from a criminal. I know your leftist media does not spoon feed you this info but it occurs.
Try this one on for size.  We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is not your right to determine how I exercise mine as long as I don't infringe on yours. That's the part you arrogant, smug, and condescending piece of crap liberals cant stand. Personal freedom and choice.
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Don't know the station that was on but I saw one of these Psychologist say that schools have to start by preventing boys from having recess.  This idiot said that recess is where boys learn to be aggressive.  This idiot said that recess is where these boys learn bullying.  Can you imagine taking recess away from young boys?  If this wasn't enough, this idiot said that schools and parents have to learn that "boys will be boys" sets these boys up to abuse their wives, break the law, ...  While I didn't hear it said by this idiot, it seems to me that the goal is to make boys into girls.  


Yes, this is why I said beware of all the women coming into power this year...it's a foretelling imo.

The Isle of Sapphos is making its move to rid the world of men.

Btw, "traditional masculinity" and "traditional femininity" are the things that attract men and women to each other physiologically and spiritually...and I ADORE traditional masculinity.
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As Empire winds down, it also unwinds. Social norms crumble and liberal democrat vocal fringe extremists are allowed to replace healthy norms with degenerate norms. Case in point, 10 year old cross-dressing boy named 'Queen Lactacia', here photographed frolicking with a naked man. Liberals are disgusting:



https://www.huckmag.com/art-and-culture/style/queen-lactacia-child-drag-queen/


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But walls are immoral. Sick phuckers
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What a skeevy bunch of phuckers, perfect thread for their check on morality.  The slippery slope was lubricated with porn lube.
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whoever allows that kid to do that should get punched in the face. hard.
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I thought maybe fresh and kazoo would drop by and join us in denouncing the liberal democrats that support pedophilia. Guess not.
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Who is the fresh you speak of? Was he friends with Dewey? Where do all the smart libs go. They tell us we are ignorant and stupid yet they can’t hang. No game. All emo.
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Who is the fresh you speak of? Was he friends with Dewey? Where do all the smart libs go. They tell us we are ignorant and stupid yet they can’t hang. No game. All emo.
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He's busy expounding on the virtues of cussing.
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Welcome to the new Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). I read about it on CNN Politics, of course. It goes something like this:

When a government that controls the currency needs more money, it just prints more. It can't go Banko if it's printing its own money. The underlying idea is that the deficit actually equals wealth in the private sector. The justification folks point to the fact that government is actually printing money every time they authorize a new unfunded program anyway, and that hasn't seemed to hurt the economy.

Point of clarification--->The last year that the US didn't spend more than it took in was 2001. Both parties do it. Please let's refrain from getting lost in the weeds of who did it worst.

Anyway, I already posited that we would never significantly pay the national debt down. Looks like the libs have found the way.  It's called MMT.



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Ebola is bad business.





"The more than 600 people confirmed to have contracted Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) could “double,” in what is already the largest outbreak in that country’s history and the second deadliest ever recorded, the director of a non-governmental organization (NGO) reportedly predicted over the weekend."

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Well, by all means, lets open our immigration wide open for those in the Congo wishing to flee for their own health safety. I mean it's only around 5.5 million people that would immediately qualify for government handouts. Bring them all over to a safe space called American Socialism. They can all move into Dewey's neighborhood and learn about taco Tuesdays and roller skating and immerse themselves in Socialism at California taxpayers expense. Then we could open all immigration from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, and let them all relocate to California as well. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with dumping tens of millions of third world people into our society?
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Well, by all means, lets open our immigration wide open for those in the Congo wishing to flee for their own health safety. I mean it's only around 5.5 million people that would immediately qualify for government handouts. Bring them all over to a safe space called American Socialism. They can all move into Dewey's neighborhood and learn about taco Tuesdays and roller skating and immerse themselves in Socialism at California taxpayers expense. Then we could open all immigration from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, and let them all relocate to California as well. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with dumping tens of millions of third world people into our society?


That's the new world order goal.
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Socialist are tired of those people getting sick and dying in their third world country and tired of not being able to get socialism to pass her.  So two birds one stone. 
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Some leftists have told us that they are not pro abortion and that they are in favor of preventing abortions.  Some leftists, like Fresh, have told us that they think abortion should be legal up to 20 weeks.

New York just passed a law that greatly expands abortion access.  In addition to permitting abortions up to 24 weeks, now more people (like midwives) are allowed to perform abortions.  More tragically, abortion is permitted at any time to protect the health of the mother, which is a purposely ambiguous way to grant any abortion at any time.

Don't let leftists tell you there's any kind of limit to the abortion rights they promote.

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They've never met an abortion that they were opposed to
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Some day abortion will look back and see abortion the same way we look at slavery
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Just to play a long with a few points in your emo drivel
Seat belt laws . No
Drunk driving laws. Yes
Then you really go off the rails.
"Dangerous behavior" Oohh, I'm so scared. Just like a lib to know whats best for others. 
Your gun  scenario does not happen MANY TIMES A DAY and you have no reliable data to prove it. Gun crime is actually down in America. You know what does happen almost every day? An armed citizen is able to protect/save themselves from a criminal. I know your leftist media does not spoon feed you this info but it occurs.
Try this one on for size.  We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is not your right to determine how I exercise mine as long as I don't infringe on yours. That's the part you arrogant, smug, and condescending piece of crap liberals cant stand. Personal freedom and choice.
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Rubes like you DO infringe on the lives of others: That's the point that escapes your empty country noggin'. Smoking not only endangers the smoker but people around smokers ('second-hand smoke') and EVERYONE pays when stupid people do stupid things. If a smoker develops serious health problems, s/he gets treated one way or the other--and other people (those with health insurance, taxpayers) will pay the bills. You don't believe in seat belts? Ha, that shows what a hick you are. We live in SOCIETIES in which everybody interacts with other people in one way or another, whether you like it or not, and so you in fact are not "free" to engage in activities that prove costly to society or that endanger other people. And the same goes for corporations. That's the point of regulations. Companies are not free to pollute rivers and streams because doing so will harm people--it's a pretty simple and compelling idea, if you ask me. This is the point of regulation. All of the right-wing talk about regulations and government constraining the "freedom" of rubes is utter nonsense---just part of the fevered right-wing imagination. There is no regulation or rule that has ever constrained your freedom or anyone else's--although knowing your background you probably hate paying taxes--another example of right-wing/wingnut idiocy. 

A huge number of innocent people in this country have been killed, lost their lives, because of the absurd fools on the political right who think their "freedom" to strut around like John Wayne is more important than public safety. Some rube gets pissed at the world or his ex-wife or somebody, because he's got problems of various kinds, and he ends up taking his gun and killing people. Gun violence is rampant and you hicks pretend it isn't--and all of the NRA nonsense about people stopping crimes and defending themselves with guns is just that...nonsense. All their numbers are made up--a fabrication-because that's what the right does--lie. We see it constantly. Now I'll let you get back to your jug of moonshine.....

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Well, by all means, lets open our immigration wide open for those in the Congo wishing to flee for their own health safety. I mean it's only around 5.5 million people that would immediately qualify for government handouts. Bring them all over to a safe space called American Socialism. They can all move into Dewey's neighborhood and learn about taco Tuesdays and roller skating and immerse themselves in Socialism at California taxpayers expense. Then we could open all immigration from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, and let them all relocate to California as well. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with dumping tens of millions of third world people into our society?


Isn't that what the call the deep South--the Third World? 

I'm not aware of anybody as ever suggested that people with serious, contagious health problems should be allowed to enter the country. Quite the opposite. Your active imagination at work. Conspiracy theory, am I right? 

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Took you a while to respond. Almost thought you would have come up with an original thought in that time. But alas, you once again show all you can do is regurgitate your talking points.
Gun violence is rampant. Yes, in democrat controlled cities with the tightest gun restrictions in the nation. You can choose to ignore statistics, put out by the right wing conspiracy theorists like the DOJ, on personal protection but it just further cements your s]ignorance of issues. You have no leg to stand on and no knowledge of gun facts but thankfully for our entertainment it doesn’t stop you from bloviating
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In New York:

It is illegal to give a lethal injection to a convicted murderer but it's legal to give it to a viable baby.



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Here ya go.



http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/post/abortion-9958242?trail=30

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Great find EG - never got a response from Fresh, or anyone on the left, to this post:

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What possibly could be freshy's objection to an ultrasound?  If he wouldn't support an ultrasound then he is straight-up PRO-abortion with as little restrictions as possible.
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