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keepinitreal

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Build the wall Duaine
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McConnel says he will know how to proceed when the president figures out what he wants concerning DACA and immigration. Hi-fukkin-larious. 2 days away from a shutdown and trump continues to be clueless about immigration. Kelly says he is "evolving" on his position on the wall. trump now understands that a concrete wall will be relatively ineffective under the Rio Grande. Some of the border security will not be a wall. Stable genius my ass. 
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Mandatory and enforced e-verify is the solution.  No wall would be necessary and thousands of border agents could be let go.  Billions of dollars saved and problem mostly solved.

The hurdle becomes once e-verify is put into service, there will be all those currently working who would be discovered.  Too many on one side of the political aisle want to send them all out of the Country while the Left wants to allow most to stay.  Gridlock.  Can't move from this point forward.  Walls on our border, government closings, DACA, and most other immigration controversies develop into huge political fights as a result of this stay or go gridlock.

Democrats have no interest in ripping apart families and interfering with their lives by deporting them.  The Right wants the illegals gone.  We're stuck here until the electorate gives one side or the other the power to move forward on the solution.



In 2014, there were 926,240 abortions performed in the United States.  Even if you're pro-choice, why wouldn't you spend more time worrying about this tragedy rather than the fate of those who have broken our laws?  

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Negotiations seem to be going along well, based on Dems loosing their minds.


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Yes, negotiations between the administration that opposes the pro amnesty eGOP and Dems have cratered. Now, Trump can say I had a televised meeting offering to sign whatever they handed me, but instead, the Democrats and eGOP want to shut down our government because they favor illegal aliens over American citizens, and our nation's immigration laws. I don't think it could be spun any better than that.
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Negotiations seem to be going along well, based on Dems loosing their minds.




Tell Senate Democrats that YOU -- the American voter -- will ALWAYS remember the day that Democrats put illegal immigrants before American citizens. >>

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Polls say 87% of Americans say leave these DACA kids alone and give them legal status.  That means even a large chunk of the 39% who approve of Trump want to leave these young people alone.  I expect his approval rating may now drop some more.  Then again, I keep waiting for him to ride in on his white horse and say "Let the DACA kids have legal status" and all this will then be behind us.
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You think your chillren want to go through another DACA in 20 years from now?  Close the border Duaine for future generations
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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We have a great chance for bipartisan adoption of important border security measures, long term fixes to DACA, and can put child health care back together. 

There is no need to shut the government down.  Shumer is going to regret doing that.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Hey Dewey, Shove your bogus leftist polls up your arse.
Just like 75% of people didn’t want a tax cut and everyone loves obummercare.
Don’t you get tired of coming here and lying to the Freshman parents

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Nobody forced their parents to break our nations laws. I didn't turn my back on their children either, they did by breaking the law. If you are looking for sympathy for illegal aliens, and expect Americans to bend over backwards to accommodate people that violate our nation's laws, just say so. Just say that illegal aliens deserve some type of special consideration over American citizens. That's what you are proposing.
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I have yet to hear any coherent defense of Dems wanting so badly to protect people in this country ILLEGALLY.

Terp - why don't the members of your family do something, ANYTHING, to attempt to legalize? 

Blaming regular Americans for the criminal actions of others is wrong. If they don't want to be illegal, then they should make some attempt to legalize.

ps Terp - if they are here illegally, how are they voting?
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So, your family members came here illegally. Life intervened. Got it.
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Terp said.......
Quote:
It is backward.


Yes, it is........Until we put-up a wall and defeat the Democrats at the polls, it'll stay that way........
keepinitreal

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So, your family members came here illegally. Life intervened. Got it.


So say, you must drive a family member to the ER at 100 MPH to get them medical services, then we should drop the speed limit law for those who have other 'valid' reasons to drive 100?  Sounds reasonable.  You notice that dewy doesn't argue against the slippery slope of marriage anymore?

Here's why

http://www.marryyourpet.com/



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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I have yet to hear any coherent defense of Dems wanting so badly to protect people in this country ILLEGALLY."

Recently a father of two children, a father who was brought here when he was a child, was deported at age 39 as his family grieved.  A family torn apart.  I don't know what additional defense is needed, beyond the obvious ridiculousness and devastation of this deportation action, to illustrate why anyone would jump at the chance to protect against more destruction of families.  Soon we may see thousands more examples of young adults, and young parents, brought here as children being uprooted from their jobs and schooling only to be sent to a Country they don't even know.  More families torn apart and more grief.

It's been said 87% of Americans favor the end to this despicable action and support the legalization of the DACA individuals.  When the support is that great, no defense is really necessary.  It is likely futile to try and convince the last 13% who are mostly unreachable.  If that isn't acceptable, there are Conservatives in this forum, who support legalization of DACA kids, who can chime in.  It's probably better for all of us if they make the case to other Conservatives on this issue as they stand a better chance of actually being
heard.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.


     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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DACA > America
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I have yet to hear any coherent defense of Dems wanting so badly to protect people in this country ILLEGALLY."

Recently a father of two children, a father who was brought here when he was a child, was deported at age 39 as his family grieved.  A family torn apart.  I don't know what additional defense is needed, beyond the obvious ridiculousness and devastation of this deportation action, to illustrate why anyone would jump at the chance to protect against more destruction of families.  What does that even mean?   Is that your defense? Soon we may see thousands more examples of young adults, and young parents, brought here as children being uprooted from their jobs and schooling only to be sent to a Country they don't even know.  More families torn apart and more grief.  Where's Ted Cruz?

It's been said 87% of Americans favor the end to this despicable action and support the legalization of the DACA individuals.  When the support is that great, no defense is really necessary.  It is likely futile to try and convince the last 13% who are mostly unreachable.  If that isn't acceptable, there are Conservatives in this forum, who support legalization of DACA kids, who can chime in.  It's probably better for all of us if they make the case to other Conservatives on this issue as they stand a better chance of actually being
heard.


hahahaha and you were so scared of Ted Cruz, even penned threads about him ripping students out of classrooms.  Your meltdown with The Donald never gets old.  I don't need to be 'heard'.  I'll sit back and let you pour your soul into your crusade, keep up the salt flow dewy, this is a softball forum, remember.  110%

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Dewyllie keeps going back to the father of 2. How many chances did he have to get legal? Why is it our fault he didn’t take the appropriate steps to make sure a democratic admisitration didn’t order his deportation?

Always another side of the story.
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Adios.  Be here legally and you won't have a problem.
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Some polls for Dewey.  (hint, not looking good). 

"CNN poll: DACA not worth a shutdown, except to Democrats"

People largely blaming dems.

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The bottom poll not good for gop
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The bottom poll not good for gop

It is CNN they poll 75-80% dems.  I will take those numbers all day long from CNN.

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Here is what the Democrats would like the US to become:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teens-roam-streets-with-rifles-as-crime-swamps-sweden-q83g055k9



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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
"I have yet to hear any coherent defense of Dems wanting so badly to protect people in this country ILLEGALLY."

Recently a father of two children, a father who was brought here when he was a child, was deported at age 39 as his family grieved.  A family torn apart.  I don't know what additional defense is needed, beyond the obvious ridiculousness and devastation of this deportation action, to illustrate why anyone would jump at the chance to protect against more destruction of families.  Soon we may see thousands more examples of young adults, and young parents, brought here as children being uprooted from their jobs and schooling only to be sent to a Country they don't even know.  More families torn apart and more grief.

It's been said 87% of Americans favor the end to this despicable action and support the legalization of the DACA individuals.  When the support is that great, no defense is really necessary.  It is likely futile to try and convince the last 13% who are mostly unreachable.  If that isn't acceptable, there are Conservatives in this forum, who support legalization of DACA kids, who can chime in.  It's probably better for all of us if they make the case to other Conservatives on this issue as they stand a better chance of actually being
heard.


I thought I had seen where that dude was deported because he crossed the law (other than being here illegally - like for pot or something).

Regardless, he was here for 30 years.  You can't tell that it just slipped his mind for all that time.

I do not feel sorry for someone here for 30 years that didn't do anything to legalize in all that time.
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Life intervened I suppose.
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