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DJPort2008

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As of right now, how would you feel if this was the tournament bracket?
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All four of the Pac No. 2/3s going cross-country to play at SEC hosts, only one of the four SEC Nos. 2/3 going vice versa.

Pretty close to accurate. Make it 4-0 and CSM will have nailed it
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http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/softball/bracketology


As of right now, how would you feel if this was the tournament bracket?


Oklahoma and James Madison in the same regional seems far fetched, but if that happens, I know what regional I will be watching.
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Oklahoma getting to 4 would be a little bit of a trick
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Minnesota, assuming they get out of their regional, won't be happy going to Seattle, AGAIN.

That said, it is premature to even guess where anybody will be seeded, before a single conference game has been played. Seeding Oklahoma #4, at this point, can only be justified by reputation.
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Oklahoma and James Madison in the same regional seems far fetched, but if that happens, I know what regional I will be watching.


I never know if the bracketology for CSM is meant to be "if the tournament started today" or predictive of what they predict it'll look like at the end of the season. I suppose it is meant to be predictive because it has had JMU in Norman since the beginning. If that's the case I guess it is probable if you predict JMU's conference schedule will pull them down and/or they'll drop a few more games along the lines of the loss to Mercer. 

On the other hand, if it is "as it stands today" JMU would be hosting a regional. 
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I never know if the bracketology for CSM is meant to be "if the tournament started today" or predictive of what they predict it'll look like at the end of the season. I suppose it is meant to be predictive because it has had JMU in Norman since the beginning. If that's the case I guess it is probable if you predict JMU's conference schedule will pull them down and/or they'll drop a few more games along the lines of the loss to Mercer. 

On the other hand, if it is "as it stands today" JMU would be hosting a regional. 


They say "projected" so I interpret that to mean how they think it will work out.

No way OK is a 4 now. But if they do great in the Big 12...

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Oklahoma may have an opportunity to elevate. The Nos. 2-4 teams in the Big 12 are the third-best among the P5 with Baylor, Texas and Okla. State. Nowhere close to the expanse of dead fish in the Big Ten and ACC
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As of right now, how would you feel if this was the tournament bracket?

TXSTATE would make the tourney before So. Alabama, not sure why they have them in there. All they need to do is a little homework to see that UL and TXState would get the bids from the Sunbelt. By the way, TXSTATE beat UofH tonight in Hou 7-0, 17-4 now.
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All four of the Pac No. 2/3s going cross-country to play at SEC hosts, only one of the four SEC Nos. 2/3 going vice versa.

Pretty close to accurate. Make it 4-0 and CSM will have nailed it



Eye of the beholder I guess. That's what you noticed. And I noticed 3 SEC schools having to travel to Pac-12 schools for Super Regionals, and none in the other direction. 

Of course this bracket is bogus. But in real life, the narrow issue you bring up is a mathematical and geographic challenge. Consider both directions using last year as example.

-Pac-12 had 5 teams which were 2/3 seeds. They cannot go to a Pac-12 Regional by rule. That leaves 13 possibilities - 8 SEC regionals plus FSU, JMU, ULL (all of which are also across the country) and OU and Michigan (I guarantee none of the Pac-12 schools was itching to be sent to either of those).

-For the SEC 2 seeds: Tex A&M got sent to ULL, Ole Miss to OU and SC to FSU. Those assignments didn't amount to an advantage over being sent to a Pac-12 regional. Plus, there were only 3 Pac-12 teams which earned the right to host, and more than enough teams of western geography that had to be placed. So should SEC schools should be sent to a Pac-12 site just because??

I am a harsh critic of the NCAA Softball Committee most years, and last year's bracket was a poor effort. But these people don't conspire to help the SEC and screw everyone else.










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I am merely making light of last year's debacle in the wisecracks about CSM's effort.

But, about last year....

Baylor was the 13 RPI... THIRTEEN.... and got shipped cross country to Eugene to be the No. 2 against No. 5 Oregon. Not (Baylor next-door neighbor) and No. 17. TAMU. Not 24. South Carolina. Not 27. Ole Miss. Meanwhile, No. 34 Oklahoma State went to be the No. 2 at 16 Georgia instead of Glenn Moore's club.

No. 22 RPI Minnesota was shipped cross country to Washington instead of being bused to the better-seed-match Missouri (in what would have been a half-hour shorter bus ride than Ole Miss had to make to Oklahoma). Not 24. South Carolina. Not 27. Ole Miss.

And, it wasn't No.
32 Nebraska either, who went to Mizzou instead. Mizzou's seed demanded getting that 22 RPI. Not the team 10 slots lower.

And, of course, there was the pathing of the No. 2 Pac to play the No. 1 Pac in Supers, instead of Tennessee getting the 12 seed.

Simple switches that would have minimized ?? about motivations



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I am merely making light of last year's debacle in the wisecracks about CSM's effort.

But, about last year....

Baylor was the 13 RPI... THIRTEEN.... and got shipped cross country to Eugene to be the No. 2 against No. 5 Oregon. Not (Baylor next-door neighbor) and No. 17. TAMU. Not 24. South Carolina. Not 27. Ole Miss. Meanwhile, No. 34 Oklahoma State went to be the No. 2 at 16 Georgia instead of Glenn Moore's club.

No. 22 RPI Minnesota was shipped cross country to Washington instead of being bused to the better-seed-match Missouri (in what would have been a half-hour shorter bus ride than Ole Miss had to make to Oklahoma). Not 24. South Carolina. Not 27. Ole Miss.

And, it wasn't No.
32 Nebraska either, who went to Mizzou instead. Mizzou's seed demanded getting that 22 RPI. Not the team 10 slots lower.

And, of course, there was the pathing of the No. 2 Pac to play the No. 1 Pac in Supers, instead of Tennessee getting the 12 seed.

Simple switches that would have minimized ?? about motivations




I agree with every word in your response. Last year was especially incompetent. Every single year there are at least a couple egregious selections or regional assignments that could have been "fixed" by anyone who keeps up, with 1 or 2 minor switches or tweaks. 

In addition to the ones you cite above, how absurd is it that UGA not only got to host (which was highly questionable) but got a weaker group of teams sent their regional  than Florida, which was the dominant #1 team. Far be it from me to cry for the Gators (you either I imagine) but that along with all the above was stupid unfair.

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Baylor not hosting over Georgia was as inept as any of it.... but to compound that by giving Georgia a 34 Okla. State instead of a 13. Baylor
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Yep, the handling of Baylor and Georgia was the worst.  Next was what you mentioned ... slotting Oregon and UCLA together as 5 and 12, and Auburn and Tennessee as 4 and 13. 

I happened to be at a higher ed event watching the selection show where there were some folks from various schools, and there was unanimous anger about that. It would have been so much more fair and generated so much more interest to just switch 4 and 5 or 12 and 13 to create the exciting matchups.
The travel cost reason given is horse szhit as it relates to those huge schools.

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Of course. And, the thing is starting to pull pretty decent ratings
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Right. Better than the baseball NCAA's and CWS. A simple quality assurance type review before it's made public would be a great addition. Maybe Murph can ask Saban if he will lend them one of his guys for a day?  lol
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A-freaking-men.

Of course, I would take a member of the Pac-12 being ON that committee, unlike last year
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I think the bracket looks pretty good.[smile]
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4 seed would be a gift, and I like our chances against Tennessee.
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4 seed would be a gift, and I like our chances against Tennessee.


Do you like your chances better vs Tennessee or Megan Good and JMU?

It would be a horrible draw for JMU, but may be a worse draw for OU.

I know it's a little bit homer but no host team would want JMU in their region with Good on the mound.  
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Moss can shut down teams, and Tennessee has one of the country's top 10 offenses

Good can shut down teams.... but JMU can't score (basing on last year's LSU super, when they still had one of the top 3 players in program history).

And, again, Good would be required to make two or three starts against Oklahoma, where Oklahoma can trot out Parker/Lowary/Lopez
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Moss can shut down teams, and Tennessee has one of the country's top 10 offenses

Good can shut down teams.... but JMU can't score (basing on last year's LSU super, when they still had one of the top 3 players in program history).

And, again, Good would be required to make two or three starts against Oklahoma, where Oklahoma can trot out Parker/Lowary/Lopez


Last was last year but if you are basing it off last years Super's then you also need to figure JMU run ruled Tennessee 9-0.  JMU also out hit LSU in the Supers but unfortunately were miserable with runners in scoring position (something like 1 for 20) and it cost them a trip to OKC.  I think LSU finished 3rd in OKC and were in top 5 maybe top 3 as far as team era is concerned.

Yes Good may have to pitch more than 1 game, but Parker might as well.  I doubt OU would run the other 2 out there if it was the first game or an elimination game vs JMU.

Again it would be a horrible draw for JMU as OU would be the favorite but I am guessing the OU coaching staff would not want JMU in their region.

I put in another thread that I fully would expect OU softball to bounce back much like Duke basketball has up to this point.  I am sure no one wants OU in their region or Super region.
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Ford loss is massive
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