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MadDogsDad

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I am saying that he more than likely did and there was some email correspondence about it by someone in the department.


Sorry my post was directed at Still_JAD.

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Some of you are missing my point - All I am saying is that if ANY emails were sent on this subject within the Auburn athletic department, they should be available via a FOIA request.  I have a hard time believing that if he was investigated and suspended in the fall, and then had players go to HCCM in the spring, that not a single email was sent to the sport supervisor or there were no correspondence between the supervisor and the AD.  That's all I am saying.

I don't need to see them to know he should be gone if what is being said here is true. 


That's an overly simplistic expectation.

For one, every state open records law is different.

For another, any email or other documentation that even mentions a student can be withheld under FERPA -- the institution can make that judgment and it would be up to a requestor to prove in court (without being able to see the documents in question) that they did not apply.

Also, many states have exceptions (as in things that don't have to be produced under a FOIA request) for personnel matters (same with open meetings laws, where they go in executive session to discuss the 'good name and character' of an employee and not disclose what was discussed).

Open records requests have to be specific. You can't just say, "I'd like a copy of every email Coach So-and-So produced in the last 18 months" on a fishing expedition, or "every email that mentions Coach So-and-So." And the university is the one who gets to decide what meets what you ask for -- if you ask for "every email that discusses the resignation of Coach So-and-So," they can eliminate every email before the resignation since he hadn't resigned yet. Etc.

If you're a citizen, you can ask for these things. You might learn a lot when you get (or don't get) the response expected.

EDIT: You also don't walk into an office, say "I want these emails" and walk out 30 minutes later with them in hand. They can take their time about getting them to you in many states. Or they can charge a boat-load of money for them -- I remember something USA Today did where they requested certain documents from schools in all 50 states and Maryland wanted like thousands of dollars in "processing fees." I seem to remember Auburn was one that wanted a lot of money and took a lot of time, but I'm not 100 percent on that.
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blaming posters on a message board for talking about things that are happening is not the problem. 

THE FACT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROBLEM. 

take it up with Clint, Corey or Jay. hold those people who have an actual impact in what is going on accountable. 


Exactly.
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EarlyGrayce

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I was going to post this on the Corey Myers threads, but it looks like they are gone. Here's an interesting read on Baillie Gibson put together by OTL.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/18900659/university-arizona-coach-threatened-one-athletes-blackmail-violence-death-school-stopped-him
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Originally Posted by flgrad91


Great AD hire Alabama.[rolleyes]



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Hate to say it, but this ain't the first occurrence of this type with AU softball,,,,it happened with the previous regime as well.
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Any truth to Auburn coach's Fall situation & his resignation this Spring due to his wanting to concentrate on getting his degree so he could qualify to become a Head Coach.


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Any truth to Auburn coach's Fall situation & his resignation this Spring due to his wanting to concentrate on getting his degree so he could qualify to become a Head Coach.





Come on now...not when you say you need to be close to and to concentrate on your family while mentioning not one thing about school!  Lol.
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And, leave suddenly in the middle of the night?
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Any truth to Auburn coach's Fall situation & his resignation this Spring due to his wanting to concentrate on getting his degree so he could qualify to become a Head Coach.


I will wait for @gtwstock to respond, since he has showered with Auburn AD Jay Jacobs and has inside information on all things Auburn softball.  The last thing I want to do is post any misinformation...but if Jay Jacobs hires Corey Myers to replace his father there is a 98.2% chance Jay will be looking for a job himself.
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Any truth to Auburn coach's Fall situation & his resignation this Spring due to his wanting to concentrate on getting his degree so he could qualify to become a Head Coach.




Highly unlikely. That's some Trumpesque spin right there
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Come on now...not when you say you need to be close to and to concentrate on your family while mentioning not one thing about school!  Lol.


A reporter asked Clint how it was better for his son's family for the son to 'resign' from a job that pays him close to $100,000 a year and instead be unemployed.

I believe Clint's answer was "I don't know."
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A reporter asked Clint how it was better for his son's family for the son to 'resign' from a job that pays him close to $100,000 a year and instead be unemployed.

I believe Clint's answer was "I don't know."
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Saw another player decided not to come back.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/05/why_auburns_whitney_jordan_cho.html

When are the parents and the administration going to get fed up with his abusive coaching style?

Slavery ended in 1865

Getting to be a big bump under the rug!!!
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Glad you felt the need to make a new account to jump in the fray
That's what you took from the article? Slavery? There are plenty of players that have to stop playing due to course conflicts. Whatever you think of the Myers you took quit the leap there
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Glad you felt the need to make a new account to jump in the fray That's what you took from the article? Slavery? There are plenty of players that have to stop playing due to course conflicts.


Spaz - do you think that's Bama_CF/KPI?
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Who can keep up with all of them. You would need an institute by the brook to research this stuff.
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this latest news story infuriates me the second most this season on this program. terrible.

my teammates at alabama missed practice (a 1:30 or 2hr practice) not the very long practices softball tends to have -- to pursue her CAREER of becoming a nurse.

STUDENT comes first in STUDENT-ATHLETE, but it appears with this regime that the well-being of a young adult under their tutelage is not the priority.

(((and it might not be how it went down, but the quotes made me feel it was actually an us or them decision)))

she did not get recruited by him (i do not believe) so, maybe Deese promised that she could do both...and if a kid has done everything as you ask, you make that concession.

30 min in that practice = going last in a hitting group. staying late with one of the 1,000 ppl on staff to take grounders. or maybe, it is a long-winded Myers post-game summarization...or waiting on him to walk from the dugout to the outfield (he sets land records)

Jacobs needs to take a HARD look at this program for a myriad of reasons and decide if the student - athlete experience is paramount as he tells folks it is, and if sball's experience doesn't match up with his, changes need to be made.

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I am a new user to the forum.  Myers does need exposed in how he treats ALL of his players.  Why do college and travel coaches feel that involved parents are a threat?  It may be because involved parents raise daughters that know respect is a too way street to be successful in life and can not be mentally abused and manipulated on a daily basis.  

It is very sad that a player who works her ass off for a coach can't even get an exception in the fall of her senior year to be 30 minutes late to practice.  I wonder how many extra hours she put in two years ago to play shortstop when his ass was in a bind. 
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My dd got a degree in elementary education.  She knew and it was made clear to her that she would have to do her student teaching at certain times.  So, she waited until her career ended to finish that part of her degree program.  IMO, that is common practice for those going into education.  
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In all honesty, it's not the classiest move by her calling Myers out, he has treated her very well in terms of opportunities imo. Realistically she was looking at 0 playing time in her senior year so she quit, that's the real story. Nothing in the whole article thanking her teammates/the school/coaching staff.
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In all honesty, it's not the classiest move by her calling Myers out, he has treated her very well in terms of opportunities imo.

Maybe she learned that attitude from that time Myers completely dismissed the departure of their 2nd baseman who disappeared right after his son did. 
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Nothing in the whole article thanking her teammates/the school/coaching staff.

She didn't write the article so that omission might not be on her. 
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the more i think about it the more i think it is more so "cut your losses" and don't associate yourself with some of the things that have happened in that program.

she is going to be a teacher...maybe she knows right from wrong.

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The hate is real [smile]
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In all honesty, it's not the classiest move by her calling Myers out, he has treated her very well in terms of opportunities imo. Realistically she was looking at 0 playing time in her senior year so she quit, that's the real story. Nothing in the whole article thanking her teammates/the school/coaching staff.


At one point I thought I heard that she was a preferred walk on, so she played 3 years for the love of the game.
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Spaz - do you think that's Bama_CF/KPI?



heehee, Clearly we need to be paying rent for occupying so much space in your brain. Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you always ask others what to think?

It wasn't me, read it, clicked on the article and am still waiting for the part where this player was abused or treated like a slave. Not there. 

FWIW, I don't care for PawPaw Myers and like most people I think what Corey did is disgusting and I think its also disgusting that daddy has lied about it and AU has proactively refused to address it.

Having said all that, Clint Myers is by any measure one of the most successful coaches ever in NCAA softball and since he came to Auburn, I have never once heard one of his players say or hint that his coaching or style is abusive. I've never heard anything but praise and appreciation which sounds genuine. 



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this latest news story infuriates me the second most this season on this program. terrible.

my teammates at alabama missed practice (a 1:30 or 2hr practice) not the very long practices softball tends to have -- to pursue her CAREER of becoming a nurse.

STUDENT comes first in STUDENT-ATHLETE, but it appears with this regime that the well-being of a young adult under their tutelage is not the priority.

(((and it might not be how it went down, but the quotes made me feel it was actually an us or them decision)))

she did not get recruited by him (i do not believe) so, maybe Deese promised that she could do both...and if a kid has done everything as you ask, you make that concession.

30 min in that practice = going last in a hitting group. staying late with one of the 1,000 ppl on staff to take grounders. or maybe, it is a long-winded Myers post-game summarization...or waiting on him to walk from the dugout to the outfield (he sets land records)

Jacobs needs to take a HARD look at this program for a myriad of reasons and decide if the student - athlete experience is paramount as he tells folks it is, and if sball's experience doesn't match up with his, changes need to be made.


Wasn't Whitney Jordan the one that was first recruited by Myers in that whole debacle where he went and started pulling players from smaller schools when they'd already signed a NLI? She signed an NLI to Lipscomb then Myers came calling and Lipscomb refused to release her so she set out a year?
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In all honesty, it's not the classiest move by her calling Myers out, he has treated her very well in terms of opportunities imo. Realistically she was looking at 0 playing time in her senior year so she quit, that's the real story. Nothing in the whole article thanking her teammates/the school/coaching staff.


Who do they have returning with experience that would take the SS position? And/or who do they have coming in that's ready to go at SS? Not saying she would've started at SS but she is the one player on the team with the most experience.
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I was at the post season banquet. Clint spoke about all 6 departing seniors, and each senior had a chance to speak. Clint said a lot of good things about Whitney, and she said a lot of good things about Clint and the program. That is what I do know; it seemed genuine, and I'm not going to speculate whether this was a facade or not. And, I'm certainly not going to report speculations to all on this forum like some of you have.

Whitney was already the oldest member on the team this year. It certainly sounds as though she doesn't want to postpone internship to Fall 2018. I briefly spoke to both of Whitney's parents after the Oklahoma loss on Saturday, and I can assure you that the Jordan family is thankful for the time Whitney had at Auburn.

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