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iwitness

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Who or what is being protected?? And WHY??
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It's a non revenue sport so it garners no mainstream attention. What's bigger news to most of America. The final 4 or a softball coach.
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Good point!!
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Is it any less important....in relation to our daughters and their relevance in sport or society??
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No, not at all. But don't expect those that are driven by the dollar in college sports to give it much play. In their world it's just not big news.
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I do not give anyone more credence than they deserve....but....somehow....this should be a subject deserving of more investigation??? Concerning all the pheriphy involved.

Only my opinion
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Unfortunately this happens in female sports way more than most people ever know unless it's a high profile school (like Auburn softball or LSU basketball) where a highly successful coach is let go suddenly.  And even the, unless the other side comes out it's usually kept quiet by the school and subject to the rumor mill.

Everyone knows that Robert Wagner was let go at Arizona State after sleeping with a player there.  Now they're married with 2 kids, he got a 2nd shot at Arizona State and then another head coaching job.

There is a female head coach at a mid-major that I know for a fact was quietly fired from one assistant's job for sleeping with a player, given a 2nd chance by a friend and then was again quietly fired for sleeping with another player and because it was always kept quiet, she had 2 or 3 head coaching job offers immediately after that. 

IMO, when this sort of thing happens administrators keep it quiet because they don't want the stigma of that happening to student-athletes on their campus.  However it happens, it is a predatory situation where someone in power uses that power to sleep with a player.  It is a terrible and indefensible situation and often an embarrassment to the university so it's kept quiet.  Lawyers may speak better to the legal aspect of this but there may be some legal reason things like this are kept quiet.  I'm sure there was an investigation into this situation and they found the evidence they needed to fire Corey but that doesn't mean it can be made public. 
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Keeping in mind it's more of a betrayal of trust than a legal issue, if Clint had prior knowledge of the situation would you consider this a fireable offense?
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Unless a player brings some sort of legal action or a reporter from the Tuscaloosa News wants to dig to make Auburn look bad, it'll probably never become a big story. 
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Well, IF it is true that THAT has happened at ASU and Auburn... then the university could be exposed to a massive lawsuit.

So, I am guessing it isn't true, and that that hasn't happened at both places under Myers

As has been so often articulated here, as a non-revenue sport, a softball coach would be booted immediately if they were exposing a major university in that manner
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What Corey did makes him a scum bag, but it isn't illegal. It is also largely heresay unless he was actually caught with a player, which I doubt. From what I've heard, the rumors/drama got to a point where a couple of the leaders on the team went to Clint and said it had become a distraction and that it was hurting the team. He then told Corey he had to go. I'm not a huge fan of Auburn's AD, but I will say that he is a good man that doesn't stand for that type of stuff and if he had actual proof, he would have fired Corey.
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Obviously they gave him the option to resign on his own to save face...or be fired...so he resigned>>>guilty!
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Not against the law.  Against the school employment agreement, so easy to fire.

Even if it happened at ASU, don't think there would be any legal standing for a lawsuit.   First you have to keep in mind that it may be 2 consenting adults.  So not even clear anyone was 'harmed'.  One would have to be underage, or claim rape, to even get close to lawsuit.  Second it would have to reasonably provable that Auburn knew about what had happened at ASU.  

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When one of them is in a position of power over another, it is a different deal
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When one of them is in a position of power over another, it is a different deal

Yes, you are correct.  Was not thinking harassment.  Auburn and coach are definitely open to civil suit on harassment grounds.  Consent may still come up in that trial but would not be hard for a young adult to claim and prove coercion.  Female player and male coach, of course, add to that angle.

And if it happened at ASU, and that should have been known at any level in Auburn, they are even more exposed.

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From what I've heard, the rumors/drama got to a point where a couple of the leaders on the team went to Clint and said it had become a distraction and that it was hurting the team. He then told Corey he had to go.
 
If the rumors/drama had reached a point that it was a distraction to the team how are we supposed to believe Clint didn't know beforehand?
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If the fans of the rest of the SEC are really serious, they should simply file a FOIA request for all information/emails/meetings about the subject at ASU and Auburn.
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Unless someone has proof of anything, everything so far is just conjecture, rumors and guessing, although I have also heard what happened.
I refuse to attempt to pass judgement on something that is none of my (yours, ours) business. 
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Well, depending on what happened, it absolutely could be the business of the families of any potential recruit.

Again, DEPENDING on what happened.

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If people were serious they would simply file the request instead of coming here with rumors.
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If people were serious they would simply file the request instead of coming here with rumors.

File a request for what from who? The NCAA? Auburn?  The NCAA is a sanctioning body, thats it.  They have no legal grounds to demand anything to be made public pertaining to stuff like that.  Penn States issue was a criminal charge.  This is not a criminal case.
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It's pretty simple.  File a FOIA with Auburn for all correspondence about the issue, specifically emails.
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Unless someone has proof of anything, everything so far is just conjecture, rumors and guessing, although I have also heard what happened.
I refuse to attempt to pass judgement on something that is none of my (yours, ours) business. 

Of course it is our business.  Coaches are public figures.  Definitely part of the job.  You are a coach you have left your coaching position unexpectedly, seemingly on short notice.   Nothing is really said in press release. You are coach of young female athletes.  

People are of course going to draw obvious conclusions.  That of course does not mean they are true.  The additional information leaked that other players felt it had become a distraction, just adds to the overall direction. 

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+1
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It's pretty simple.  File a FOIA with Auburn for all correspondence about the issue, specifically emails.


Good luck with that.
Stand a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffas body.
Guy on the grassy knoll, Nessie, Cam Newtons true stipend amount, a Squatch etc.
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Are you saying they could legally suppress the information?

Or that no one would want to put their name on a FOIA to get the information?
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Are you saying they could legally suppress the information?

Or that no one would want to put their name on a FOIA to get the information?


Did not say they'd suppress anything, nor disclose anything.  You'd get the obligatory "Coach Myers resigned" narrative. That is if you get anything whatsoever. 
Let us all know how your quest of the truth scoop goes.
As far as future recruiting goes, kids / parents will line up regardless.
Did you see the pitchforks and rioting from current players families?
Me neither
End of story. Let it Geaux
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It's not my "quest", just saying you can file a Freedom Of Information for all info pertaining to the situation.  Auburn would be required to turn it over.  Happens all the time in lawsuits, so they wouldn't be able to get away with "Coach Myers resigned".

I just think its funny that people would rather come here and spread rumors instead of putting their name out there as someone that wants the information.
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Then I wish whoever gets 'lawyer'ed up' to find dirty laundry good luck.  They'll need it and a lot of money to pay lawyers for it. Rest assured AU has plenty of both.
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Mangler, the Narrator is an ex-spurt on this stuff............

Ex is a has-been...........A spurt is a drop of water............

You know how it goes.........Bo knows.........And, Narrator blows!
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