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What is appalling is the left's continued insistence on throwing more money into public schools.

Trust me - I know the following to be gospel - as long as teachers' unions are in control, public education will suck.  The number one priority for the unions is to protect the unions.  Their number two priority is to protect all teachers from any evaluation or discipline process, regardless of their ability to teach kids.  There is zero incentive for the unions to promote excellence.

There are many excellent, caring teachers.  Unfortunately, there are far more who are paycheck and retirement driven.  That will never change as long as the unions are in control.

And why does the left insist on this broken system?  I think we all know the answer to that.

Votes, of course.  Same reason they adopt all their wacky backwards plans.
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Democrats live to politic, that's who they are
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I know a teacher who was visibly upset today about state standardized tests and the new evaluation method.  As you all know, the classroom teacher will now have these various tests become a part of their evaluation.  It seems 4 students marked "A" on every option on the standardized test.  This teacher had 12 "F's/D's in a classroom of 30.  Two of those students who failed were "move ins" who moved in the last month of the school year.  This test was given last week so was given with 2 weeks left in school.  

The result from this test is that this teacher can be put on "needs improvement" which, in my state, means that they can be released.  We no longer have tenure.  So, 4 students who didn't give a darn and twins who moved in can cost this teacher her job.  I understand why people dislike tenure.  However, the alternative my state came up with punishes teachers for students who are apathetic and other issues outside of their control.  

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The teachers union is running anti charter school ads on the radio in SoCal. Trying to scare people that the Walton family is supporting charter schools and they are friends with the Koch’s and Trump.
They never mention they are against charter schools because they can’t cintrol them.
It’s always fear that the dems try to play on with the low info.

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Lets face it, the school systems in most states have hamstrung teachers from real teaching.  For some of these kids, the only way that they stand a chance at all of catching up is via a Charter School.  Why?  Spazsdad said it best.  The unions don't have control of the Charter Schools.  

Story time.  Before our state eliminated tenure, I taught in a school system where one teacher was always, "sick."  Her sickness was highly questionable.  This teacher abused the number of sick days allowed and took days out of our "sick leave bank" to the point we all had to agree to put more of our days in.  This teacher was untouchable.  No regard was given to the harm it does students to have substitute teachers in the class two or more times per week.  Long story short, this teacher was taking vacations everywhere and had a "Doctor friend' who accompanied her a lot of the time who wrote notes for her.  In the end, this teacher was protected and could not care less about how she was ruining the education of so many students.  

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I know a teacher who was visibly upset today about state standardized tests and the new evaluation method.  As you all know, the classroom teacher will now have these various tests become a part of their evaluation.  It seems 4 students marked "A" on every option on the standardized test.  This teacher had 12 "F's/D's in a classroom of 30.  Two of those students who failed were "move ins" who moved in the last month of the school year.  This test was given last week so was given with 2 weeks left in school.  

The result from this test is that this teacher can be put on "needs improvement" which, in my state, means that they can be released.  We no longer have tenure.  So, 4 students who didn't give a darn and twins who moved in can cost this teacher her job.  I understand why people dislike tenure.  However, the alternative my state came up with punishes teachers for students who are apathetic and other issues outside of their control.  


Pure stupidity.  If teachers are to be evaluated, it needs to be on the basis of student progress from start of year to end of year.  My wife regularly gets very difficult children who have emotional or developmental issues.  They may end the year below grade level but what matters is how much they developed during the year.  Even then, it's not totally within the teacher's control since parental involvement is crucial to said progress.

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But....but.....but....dems and republicans agreed on Common Core!  It must be the greatest thing ever!  (Dewyllie)


Bottom line we need to blow up the educational system and start over from scratch and rethink how we educate our children.  We are already being lapped by the rest of the world and it will only get worse.

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It’s already been accomplished. They are called private religious schools. The only thing missing is using your own school taxes as you wish instead of having them confiscated and used to fund a failed education system that the average parent has no control and limited input.
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