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How about the end of the Iowa game?Neither team can score a td & last 2mins,each score one.
Iowa defense is outstanding,but don't think they have the offense to go undefeated...hope I am wrong.Go hawkeyes.
My dream would be to see Longhorns & Hawkeyes play.

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jG-how about Cincy with backup QB.The big East could go down to Cincy vs Pitt in final game,unless WV knocks off Cincy,Either way,some exciting FB.


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old scout - The Big East has risen up this year, and several ballclubs are very good, including Cincy. South Florida looked bad against a good Pitt team. Pitt has a little waterbug freshman halfback who is extraordinary and flat out fun to watch. Florida really struggled against Miss State, and my man Tim Tebow just looks unhappy. There's no joy (always was) in his game in the last two games. Something's up there. Alabama was very fortunate to escape from Tennessee with a blocked field goal attempt. That huge Cody person from Alabama blocked the kick. Jimmy Clausen at Notre Dame is still a Heisman candidate, and Golden Tate (he's a hot dog, but a great athlete) might be the best receiver in the USA. Both will play on Sunday and will make the big dineros. At ND, this team is saving the coach's job, especially Clausen. I see that your Mizzou Tigers were dumped, but Iowa continues to win.
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UGA has surprised me to some extent. But I knew deep down that eventually sub par coaching would come through. For the past few years Georgia has survived on great athletes. The defensive coordinator hasnt gotten it done in years but they have had a decent offense to pull them through.
Now the bad coaching on both sides of the ball is coming back to kick them in the butts....

Florida will win this coming weekend by at least 17 points...

UF to me isnt that good. Alabama is consistent but showed a chink in their armor. Actually no one is really pulling away from the pack as a clear number one in my eyes....

Georgia Tech is a decent team with really good athletes. The Johnson there isnt a nice person nor decent coach. I have known of and about him for a few years and the trend remains. He treats his staff terribly and his players worse....

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old scout - The Big East has risen up this year, and several ballclubs are very good, including Cincy. South Florida looked bad against a good Pitt team. Pitt has a little waterbug freshman halfback who is extraordinary and flat out fun to watch. Florida really struggled against Miss State, and my man Tim Tebow just looks unhappy. There's no joy (always was) in his game in the last two games. Something's up there. Alabama was very fortunate to escape from Tennessee with a blocked field goal attempt. That huge Cody person from Alabama blocked the kick. Jimmy Clausen at Notre Dame is still a Heisman candidate, and Golden Tate (he's a hot dog, but a great athlete) might be the best receiver in the USA. Both will play on Sunday and will make the big dineros. At ND, this team is saving the coach's job, especially Clausen. I see that your Mizzou Tigers were dumped, but Iowa continues to win.
Hawks continue to sneak by with a great defense & offense just when they seem to need it.Could come down to Ohio state & Iowa,butIowa will have to stay on top of it's game vs Ind.,Mn.& Purdue.I like Mizzo only because I live there now,but was actually cheering for the Longhorns my #3 team[lived there 21 years]Son played a little at TT so I cheer for them as well.

QB at Mizzo has been hurting for 3 weeks,They should have rested him 2nd half of NeB. game,they might of ruined him for season.The kids 6'4" & 240#,runs a 4.4,but has been limping around for 3 weeks.[wonder why they even have a backup QB?]
I like Big East FB ,it's fun to watch.
What do you think of Boise State & TCU?

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Joisey, you know the Alabama was fortunate thing, well yes in a sense.  If you also think about the fact that UT was fortunate to recover the onside kick.  UT was fortunate to get the Ingram turnover.  Are these fortunate situations, or are these players doing what they are supposed to do?  I understand the point.  But in reality, it never should've gotten to that point.

As far as UGA rocklifter, it was just a matter of time.  Richt has been the most useless coach in the SEC.  I mean how do you have Stafford and Moreno and get NOTHING out of it.

UF may not be the UF of last year, but I'm not sure they need to be to end up with the same results as last year.

I think this weekend will be a telling weekend in the Pac10.  Should be an interesting game, and the way the Ducks have been playing, I have to pick them to win.
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jayrot - My point about Florida and Alabama is that they should not be playing barn burners, but should be having comfortable wins. Remember, they are ranked #1 and #2 in the nation. In my eyes, no one team has performed in the role of an obvious #1 in college football this year.
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Much agreed on that second point.  I couldn't find you one team that has been a true #1 this year.  I guess Texas, but what kind of a weak schedule is that?
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jayrot - My wife and I both noticed that Tim Tebow wasn't playing with his usual joy and devil may care attitude during the game, and he seemed to sulk on the sideline, very unlike him. . He seemed frustrated and unhappy. In our paper today there was an article that noted that Tebow, for the first time, didn't address the media after the game. Also there were big hints of some interior conflicts on the Gators' team. Coach Meyers addressed those concerns after the game. Trouble in Paradise?


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Thanks for that SB! Interesting chart there, and it does give you a decade by decade breakdown of the list.

After reading GT's profile I have a quick statement, here is what is stated in the article:

"Negatives: The Yellow Jackets haven't had a major bowl win since the 1955-56 season, when they won the 1956 Sugar Bowl at the tail end of the aforementioned five-year dream run under coach Bobby Dodd."

Yet, GT fans know of the 1990 season where we took a share of the National Championship by beating Nebraska at the Citrus Bowl.

Florida Citrus Bowl: Georgia Tech 45, Nebraska 21

Seems like that is a big enough win to call it a major bowl win, but maybe I'm lost on that one.


A couple more observations, interesting seeing Washington on that list. Guess I didn't realize how deep their program ran. Also thought VT would've been ahead of Maryland, but I guess VT's success is very recent.
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Florida doesnt look like its running on all cylinders. Not sure why.....its not for a lack of talent. Wonder if the concussion is having after effects on Tebow....
As much as it pains me to say it...they will basically man handle Georgia this weekend...
If they dont...they sure as heck dont deserve a number one ranking...


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Most of the SEC schools don't have stadiums big enough to challenge those UM,PSU,and OSU numbers, right? If I remember correctly, Tennessee has the largest SEC stadium (has that changed in recent years?). And they definitely cram you into that stadium.

One of my friends does some photography at college football games and he covered an OSU game this year, and he said that was the most hectic and ridiculous game he has ever covered because there were so many people there. So I guess that coincides with those number then, right?

Also, is it sad that I think the Coliseum and the Rose Bowl got better attendance in their Lakers celebration and U2 concert (respectively) than they get for their football games?
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Yeah, it isn't a monetary issues, I think has more to do with how they have "locked themselves in." For example at Bryant Denny stadium, they've had a second level deck for the East and West sidelines, but it wasn't until 2006 that they added the North upper deck. I think this year they approved adding the upper deck to the South endzone. When they added the upper decks to the sidelines, they added those super cool spiral ramps, and used those as great architectural elements (which people use to watch the game from as well), but now they are filling them into to compete with other universities. And my opinion is that is loses some of the quality of the stadium, but then again I don't run the show.

As for other schools, Tennessee is about maxed out for the moment. Other schools like MSU have built a field house in one end zone which kind of limits the growth of stadium seating in that area, but if you have been in that field house (it is one of the coolest football experiences out there).


The point about U2 and Laker celebration is that, both of these schools have HUGE stadiums, but maybe they are too huge for the universities. The Coliseum wasn't even filled for a USC vs. OSU game this weekend, and that was a rematch game. I don't know why the turnout seems so low at most USC home games, but it really does. Or maybe it is just the illusion with 1/5 of the stadium never being used.
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I guess if you have a 1-3 conference record, you might as well start stirring the pot. It might take the blame off of you for awhile.

http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/10/lane_kiffin_reprimanded_by_sec.html
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South Florida 30 and West Virginia 19 in the Big East tonight (Friday). BJ Williams, outstanding freshman quarterback for the Bulls, accounted for most of the South Florida offense. South Florida's defense was tough when it counted. West Virginia is knocked from the ranks of the unbeaten in the Big East. Looks like Cincy and Pittsburgh will knock heads for the title. In the South Florida vs. West Virginia game, West Virginia's DeVine who was averaging over 130 yards per game, was held to a total of 42 yards.
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How do you West Coast folk see the USC vs. Oregon contest? How do you see the Heisman race?
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I see the USC-Oregon contest from inside the stadium, and Oregon's going to win (completely non-biased, I assure you).
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I wanted to see the Florida vs. Georgia game, so when Connecticut scored with only a few seconds left to make the score 24-21, I turned to the other station. At halftime I learned that Rutgers received the kickoff and then threw an 81 yard touchdown pass to win 28-24. Oh me of little faith !!
PS Thus far, Tim Tebow of Florida has scored two touchdowns rushing against Georgia, thus breaking Hershel Walker's SEC record by two touchdowns.

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Only one thing to say:

I L L --- I N I !!!

 
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Did I call it or what SeaBiscuit.  Oregon will tear through the rest of their schedule.
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Back from ASA showcase in Chesterfield ,mo[1/2 got rained out],but wanted to say GO Hawkeyes....go Longhorns. I think the Longhorns can close it out,but My Hawkeyes will need a little more than breaks when they go to Columbus.


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The first half was worrisome, our defense didn't look too good. The second half was just awesome. That's why the Patriots fired Carroll for Belichick.
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Tim Tebow was Tebow for the first time since his deep concussion, and Florida easily beat Georgia with Tim throwing for two and running for two. Riley Cooper is one of the best receivers in college football.
Notre Dame had little trouble with Washington State, but they probably lost their second string quarterback to injury, and Jimmy Clausen reinjured his turf toe injury. Again, Golden Tate (although a big hot dog) was superb for the Irish; he's a great athlete.

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It was a beautiful game, but in my book. I will still take Pete Carroll over Chip Kelley any day of the week.  Oregon just happened to meet USC on a year that is most definitely a down year.  The defense has been pretty hideous all year long, and the offense is spotty at best.  USC has a LOT of players missing.

And if you know Pete's style of defense, they've always had trouble with players like Masoli.  USC clearly showed no fight, and didn't deserve to win that game.  Now do I believe that was a 100% USC team, not in the slightest.  Do I believe that was a 100% Oregon team, yes.  Do either of these teams belong in the top 5, no.  But as a USC fan, I will surprised if in the next 3 years they don't win a NC based purely on the fact of how good Matt Barkley is as a freshman.  Well done Oregon, you deserved it and deserve the Pac10 title.  Now if you all had just not been stupid enough to lose to Boise State, you would've had an awesome season.

SeaBiscuit, since you never thought he should've been removed from the team, what are your thoughts on Blount returning?

And so happy Oregon State held with that score in the game, it was beautiful watching UCLA claw back just to fall anyways.
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Tim Tebow was Tebow for the first time since his deep concussion, and Florida easily beat Georgia with Tim throwing for two and running for two. Riley Cooper is one of the best receivers in college football.
Notre Dame had little trouble with Washington State, but they probably lost their second string quarterback to injury, and Jimmy Clausen reinjured his turf toe injury. Again, Golden Tate (although a big hot dog) was superb for the Irish; he's a great athlete.


Much agree from what I've seen of Riley Cooper.
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jayrot said: "SeaBiscuit, since you never thought he should've been removed from the team, what are your thoughts on Blount returning?"

If I said that then I was intoxicated.  He should NOT be permitted to return. 


Sorry, my bad, I did misquote you in that.  Here is the quote to which I was referring:

"I never thought Blount would go unpunished, I don't think anyone did.  I don't think anyone expected a full year's punishment.  Bravo Oregon."

So, my question still stands, what are your thoughts on him returning to the team?

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I wanted to see the Florida vs. Georgia game, so when Connecticut scored with only a few seconds left to make the score 24-21, I turned to the other station. At halftime I learned that Rutgers received the kickoff and then threw an 81 yard touchdown pass to win 28-24. Oh me of little faith !!
PS Thus far, Tim Tebow of Florida has scored two touchdowns rushing against Georgia, thus breaking Hershel Walker's SEC record by two touchdowns.


Interesting fact with Tebow breaking Walkers record. If you remember H Walker only played three years at UGA. He left UGA to go play for the New Jersey Generals(?) in the new league associated with Donald Trump.
 It took Tebow four years to accomplish the same feat.

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rocklifter - On the other hand, Walker was a running back and Georgia's main ball carrier, while Tebow is a quarterback who hands off to running backs. How many touchdowns did Walker (a great player) throw for? Tebow has a bundle of them. Both are gentlemen of the first order.
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football fans, have a question:
How bad should USC be until they get rid of their AD.
then maybe they will start a softball program. 
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Lets see the guy at Florida is getting suspended for the first half of a game for trying to gouge a guys eyes out.
Man,that coach Meyer is one strict coach.I guess if Blount would have been at Florida,he would have had to sit out the first quarter.
What do you think is worse-slugging a guy or poking his eyes.I had both done to me when I played & I'd pick the smack in the jaw.

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