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BAMASportzLuvr

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Liberals have their guts owned by Satan. He owns them and rejoices in their cowardly mannerisms. Libs would put their immediate family member(s) as shields in front of them, as any advancement towards them has the wusses of the world react in this manner. Nads? They probably have the outer cores, but there is close to nothing inside them. The world has those who do and those who don't.
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Originally Posted by uwApoligist



The system as designed had at least 3 opportunities to stop this, and it failed because people failed to do their job.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/florida-shooter-cruz-records-police-calls-to-home-invs/index.html


Sounds like we have some coaching opportunities here.  Rule 1, don't hire pussies like kazooturd and freshyturd

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Exactly UWA - Baker act. Too busy to look it up today.

Fraud Vance Law exposed for regurgitating dem talking points.

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Ask the students if they if care what liberal and conservative are. (They don't). They are the unified voices that will bring change.

Good luck finding all those Vets to work as SRO for the school system pay. We work on voluntary Vets hiring to get to around  seven percent or more of a company's workforce, and it is difficult. There is just not enough of them. If you have a security clearance you are going elsewhere for the pay (NSA and government contractors will triple the pay of what you get in the school system and actually use your brain).

They are already trying to get retirees to come back as teachers and some come back but to then Vet and then want to be a security guard? Again small group. Good luck. (I am all for this idea, but it is not the answer. Banning a gun that took out an entire organ and just killed a HS school student in Florida is the answer. If it had been a pistol, the student would have lived.)





Really a stupid statement, .223 is a rifle cartridge that has been around for well over 60yrs. 

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Bama Rambo, very impressive. If talk is any indication, you must be quite a man.

I would put handguns on my list, but ain't going to happen. Going for the obvious. Guns that serve little purpose other than to kill people. Automatic and semi-automatic rifles are unnecessary and are here purely to fuel your libido. You Rambos can sit around and talk guns and how you'd rush the shooters with your big ole gun(dick) in your hands. Face it, big difference in sitting around the cracker barrel blowing smoke and facing off with a real gunman.  Nobody knows, until it happens, what you would do. 

Get rid of unnecessary guns. 

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Originally Posted by uwApoligist



The system as designed had at least 3 opportunities to stop this, and it failed because people failed to do their job.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/florida-shooter-cruz-records-police-calls-to-home-invs/index.html

You do realize that comments like this support my position? Regardless the laws and regulations, crazies are going to grab a gun, if it's available, and do what they do. They are crazy, remember? The law can't stop them, but if there were no guns to be had........ 

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That’s just not going to happen.

Why should we add more laws when we can’t enforce the ones we have?

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So stupid they don't relize they are making my point. Classic.
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3 separate legal frameworks should have stopped this. 

You are actually making our argument.  Your more laws, cause the ones we already have did not work, is mindless, not rational.

Additionally,  think you glossed over the well researched paper: 

"I researched the strictly tightened gun laws in Britain and Australia and concluded that they didn’t prove much about what America’s policy should be. Neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun related-crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans. Mass shootings were too rare in Australia for their absence after the buyback program to be clear evidence of progress. And in both Australia and Britain, the gun restrictions had an ambiguous effect on other gun-related crimes or deaths."

Trump is on the right track.  Arm/train teachers and School Resource Officers.  Raise the age limit.  Fix/tighten/improve the background check system.  Demand the FBI, Broward County Sherifs do their jobs.  Quit burdening these organizations with dealing with continuous non-stop leftist agenda bullsh1t, so they can do their jobs.  

Sad that both the Parkland shooting and the Texas Church shooting should have tripped background checks.  If you have a system it has to work, or lives get lost. 

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
uwApoligist

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Exactly UWA - Baker act. Too busy to look it up today. Fraud Vance Law exposed for regurgitating dem talking points.

Yeah, you got me thinking.  I also wanted to put the Florida Law failure in context/perspective with the rest of 3 failures that happened in this incident. 

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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Lost_1

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Another government agency failed!


Where are the calls for the people that did NOT do their jobs to be fired? Why are the Broward County Sheriff, The FBI, and now DCF skating scott free? Why are the survivors not calling for the wholesale house cleaning of those that failed to do their job?


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200692514.html


Defenders also have asked Henderson Mental Health, which appears to have had a long history with Cruz, for its records of his treatment. What little the lawyers know, Weekes said, comes from DCF’s 2016 report, which suggests authorities had significant contact with Cruz in the months or years preceding the rampage.

“There are checks and balances in place to identify individuals in crisis, to get them help, and to protect them and protect others,” Weekes said. “They did not do that.”

“Every single bell had been rung with this child,” Weekes said, “and nothing had been done.”

DCF’s only contact with Cruz specifically involving neglect allegations appears to have been triggered by a fight between Cruz and his mother, who now is deceased. DCF had been told initially that Cruz and his mom fought over an ID card the teen needed to buy some kind of game. The details are unclear, but DCF was told that Cruz then took to Snapchat and began “cutting both of his arms.”

The investigation that followed revealed troubling signs: Cruz “stated he plans to go out and buy a gun.” Earlier, he had placed “hate signs” on his book bag, and wrote “I hate n-----s,” using the racial slur. He had a history of depression.

Some time in the past, the report said, Henderson had been summoned for Cruz to be involuntarily committed, “but he denies everything,” the report added.


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So stupid they don't relize they are making my point. Classic.


They aren’t - but please keep going, you are simply making the point we have been trying to for a while. Glad you finally caught up.

We have several laws already on the books that should have stopped this, and other shooters. More laws is not the answer.

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Right-wingers always trying to pin the blame on other people and other factors. Tell me, what existing laws would have/should have prevented the Las Vegas massacre, the San Bernardino massacre, the Pulse massacre, among many others? There are none because nothing could have been done to prevent those massacres--and many others--except getting rid of guns. Trump doing the right thing? That's funny. Trump's done nothing but parrot NRA talking points. Trump NEVER does the right thing. He's a walking, talking Wrong Thing. Train school resource officers? Right--they had one at Majory Stoneman High: how'd that work out? Guards do not solve the problem, have never solved the problem, because they don't address the problem. And yet yahoos pretend that they will. You're whistling past the graveyard. 

Do you realize that if you get into any sort of scrape with a gun-toting Florida--minor fight or altercation--the gun owner can shoot and kill you and the chances are very high that he will get off? The Florida Stand Your Ground law is so loose and pro gun that Unjustifiable Homicides are now routinely declared Justifiable Homicides? Perhaps you already knew that after the George Zimmerman case. On the road to fascism....Only right-wing crazies think we should be selling semi-automatic weapons in stores to teenagers. 

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Trayvone was  street thug that brutally attacked a guy and started bashing his head on the concrete.  Unfortunately for Trayvone that man was prepared to defend himself. 



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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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kaplooey, you are bazaar. 
 
Clearly there were laws in place to keep Cruz from having a weapon.  Why not fix the breakdowns in the system.  It is not about blame, but taking realistic steps to fix the problems.  

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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Only right-wing crazies think we should be selling semi-automatic weapons in stores to teenagers. 


well that affirms what I already knew, I'm not a right-wing crazy

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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kaplooey, you are bazaar. 
 
Clearly there were laws in place to keep Cruz from having a weapon.  Why not fix the breakdowns in the system.  It is not about blame, but taking realistic steps to fix the problems.  


Easy resolution. Get rid of the guns they use. No law needed if the guns aren't available. You guys want all kind of work arounds, but the simple answer slaps you in the face, overr and over. You've already discovered that you can't legislate for crazies. You must keep the guns out of society. Simple, simple, simple.

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Easy resolution. Get rid of the guns they use. No law needed if the guns aren't available. You guys want all kind of work arounds, but the simple answer slaps you in the face, overr and over. You've already discovered that you can't legislate for crazies. You must keep the guns out of society. Simple, simple, simple.





Some PVC pipe, the same ignitor as on your gas grill, some BB's, gasoline or pyrodex, and the same technology you use to unlock your car door and you have a remote detonated IED.

You seem to be focused on "HOW" and completely ignoring "WHY". "HOW" is a variable, and until "WHY" is addressed "HOW" doesn't matter, "HOW" will change/adapt, but the end result will be the same until "WHY" is solved.

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Easy resolution. Get rid of the guns they use. No law needed if the guns aren't available. You guys want all kind of work arounds, but the simple answer slaps you in the face, overr and over. You've already discovered that you can't legislate for crazies. You must keep the guns out of society. Simple, simple, simple.

>all guns go poof
>crazy gets in car and runs over kids
>what now?

Why must those who live in a civil responsible society give up significant rights to accommodate your crazies?  Why not just remove crazies and we can go about our lives  - living normally, enjoying our freedoms?

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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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It’s fun to read dewyllie, Vance and fresh misrepresent what some on the right feel on gun control.

Listen to Marco Rubio’s responses to the few substantive questions he got at the town hall - would love to discuss his answers.

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Fresh, so you propose a communistic approach where you march into American homes and confiscate their guns.  How many do you think will die when that happens?  You want the government to be able to squash all Americans when they make these socialist/communist destroy the Constitution.  Got it!
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Fresh, so you propose a communistic approach where you march into American homes and confiscate their guns.  How many do you think will die when that happens?  You want the government to be able to squash all Americans when they make these socialist/communist destroy the Constitution.  Got it!


Your use of march makes it sound so ominous. I'm saying, pass laws that limit possession of certain, unnecessary, firearms. Getting to play Army for you Rambo wannabe's, while our children are being slaughtered, is not a good enough reason. The founding fathers, in their wisdom, allowed for changes to the constitution to allow for changing times. Like people that have muskets probably can't write sensible laws governing automatic and semiautomatic firearms. You may have the right to certain weapons, but not any weapons, as shown by the banning of automatic firearms. If a law can be written limiting automatic, why not semiautomatic? There is nothing Communistic about passing laws to cover the behavior of nuts. 

You would show your patriotism by firing on a government employee that came to take your AR-15? Really?

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So, those that wish for more control of gun ownership are arguing that their case is being made for them, let me turn that table by asking,

If a gun-free zone didn't keep citizens safe, a peace officer couldn't keep citizens safe, registration procedures couldn't keep citizens safe, increased security would not keep citizens safe, medical evaluation process didn't keep citizens safe, then would it not be logical for me to assume that I am solely responsible for keeping myself and family 'safe'?

And then you ask me to accept your premise that I will be safe if you ban the very implement I feel can...

Oh forget it, you aren't listening anyway.

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Your use of march makes it sound so ominous. I'm saying, pass laws that limit possession of certain, unnecessary, firearms. Getting to play Army for you Rambo wannabe's, while our children are being slaughtered, is not a good enough reason. The founding fathers, in their wisdom, allowed for changes to the constitution to allow for changing times. Like people that have muskets probably can't write sensible laws governing automatic and semiautomatic firearms. You may have the right to certain weapons, but not any weapons, as shown by the banning of automatic firearms. If a law can be written limiting automatic, why not semiautomatic? There is nothing Communistic about passing laws to cover the behavior of nuts. 

You would show your patriotism by firing on a government employee that came to take your AR-15? Really?

Constitution amendment?  That would fail before you finished saying it.

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So, those that wish for more control of gun ownership are arguing that their case is being made for them, let me turn that table by asking,

If a gun-free zone didn't keep citizens safe, a peace officer couldn't keep citizens safe, registration procedures couldn't keep citizens safe, increased security would not keep citizens safe, medical evaluation process didn't keep citizens safe, then would it not be logical for me to assume that I am solely responsible for keeping myself and family 'safe'?

And then you ask me to accept your premise that I will be safe if you ban the very implement I feel can...

Oh forget it, you aren't listening anyway.


I read what you put down. I, for the life of me, can't understand the defiance in you about giving up semi-automatic weapons that are killing our children. It's the weapon of choice. The law doesn't affect crazies, we must remove their tools. I do not for a minute think this sick individual would have driven a car into a crowd of his fellow students. It's the pop. The image of himself with that gun in his hand that drives him. He must see the victim hit. 

How many times have you used your guns to protect yourself? Not pulled one out in case, actually pulled it out, ready to use, because somebody was physically threatening you. I would believe your answer.

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Constitution amendment?  That would fail before you finished saying it.


Did it take a constitutional amendment to ban automatic weapons?

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So, those that wish for more control of gun ownership are arguing that their case is being made for them, let me turn that table by asking,

If a gun-free zone didn't keep citizens safe, a peace officer couldn't keep citizens safe, registration procedures couldn't keep citizens safe, increased security would not keep citizens safe, medical evaluation process didn't keep citizens safe, then would it not be logical for me to assume that I am solely responsible for keeping myself and family 'safe'?

And then you ask me to accept your premise that I will be safe if you ban the very implement I feel can...

Oh forget it, you aren't listening anyway.


Awesome post and you are 100%, he's not listening.  He's got wax buildup

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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 There is nothing Communistic about passing laws to cover the behavior of nuts. 
 Really?


Outlaw NUTS, not guns

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Awesome post and you are 100%, he's not listening.  He's got wax buildup


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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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So, those that wish for more control of gun ownership are arguing that their case is being made for them, let me turn that table by asking,

If a gun-free zone didn't keep citizens safe, a peace officer couldn't keep citizens safe, registration procedures couldn't keep citizens safe, increased security would not keep citizens safe, medical evaluation process didn't keep citizens safe, then would it not be logical for me to assume that I am solely responsible for keeping myself and family 'safe'?

And then you ask me to accept your premise that I will be safe if you ban the very implement I feel can...

Oh forget it, you aren't listening anyway.


See Fresh, I told you not to mess with the BS. Do you understand how completely ignorant you are making yourself look? I understand you are a Socialists that believes that a strong central government should control everyone's personal  lives from cradle to death.

I will ask you once again, do you understand how completely ignorant, and stupid that makes you look to everyone else?

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