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TheNarrator

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Now durden is equating an obama lie that "if you like your plan you can keep your plan", with a trump lie about the size of a crowd of people. oh mika. 


Not the lies, just the people defending them.  I know the comparison hurts.
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Not the lies, just the people defending them.  I know the comparison hurts.

Not really, it is coming from you.  

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It is just like the NYT said it was right?

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Woody - FOX is fake news also.  They just favor trump, so many overlook it.  They all suck, and promote their own agenda.

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Not really, it is coming from you.  


Wasn't even addressing you, but good to see I still have my number one fan.
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Woody - FOX is fake news also.  They just favor trump, so many overlook it.  They all suck, and promote their own agenda.



I have stated that Fox is just as bad as the rest. OAN is about the only broadcast news station that is reputable, and I still see them as right leaning, but not overly into the propaganda like the others. If they gain traction, they may have a future.

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FOX was RINO central during the primaries, and only halfway supported the GOP nominee during their daytime programming. Their prime time shows went all in for ratings.
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It is funny that some of those that constantly chided Dewey about Obama lying are now justifying Trumps lies.


Obama lied when he opened his mouth. Sometimes when Trump is honest he gets slammed for being honest, more so than when he lies

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FOX was RINO central during the primaries, and only halfway supported the GOP nominee during their daytime programming. Their prime time shows went all in for ratings.


They wouldn't report a negative thing about trump if they had a gun to their head.
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They wouldn't report a negative thing about trump if they had a gun to their head.

Your ludicrous.   Shep, Megan, were 100% nevertrump all day everyday.  Most foxnews Sunday at that time had Bill Krystal and George Will dominating their discussion with nothing but nevertrump vitriol. 

Most of fox was generally negative towards Trump until Trump started handing the other candidates their arses on a platter. 

They finally had to kick Krystal and Will to the curb cause they were off the deep end cawing about Even McMuffin and deep state nonsense. 

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I know you are but what am I.  Love the salt.

Typical trumpie response, thought I'd give them a try.


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Your ludicrous.   Shep, Megan, were 100% nevertrump all day everyday.  Most foxnews Sunday at that time had Bill Krystal and George Will dominating their discussion with nothing but nevertrump vitriol. 

Most of fox was generally negative towards Trump until Trump started handing the other candidates their arses on a platter. 

They finally had to kick Krystal and Will to the curb cause they were off the deep end cawing about Even McMuffin and deep state nonsense. 
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2 nevertrump's - 2 drinks
deep state - drink
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2 nevertrump's - 2 drinks
deep state - drink

Drinking with mika.  your going to get me excited. 

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They wouldn't report a negative thing about trump if they had a gun to their head.


Mike, I can't speak for total coverage and we know that Hannity is way over the top so I don't consider him in any discussion.  Yesterday, Trish Regan led a discussion that was absolutely critical of Trump.  It covered not only his tweets but also, his inability to move the GOP base into a collective mindset.  In fact, I would suggest that a majority of the show yesterday was not favorable to Trump.  I watched the show because I thought some of her perspective interesting.  While I didn't agree with all of it, I did appreciate her tone and presentation.  Several of her guest were of the same mindset.  

Juan Williams on "The Five" always presents a difference of opinions with regards to Trump.  So, that is at least two examples where Trump is not given a free ride.  I could think of more examples if given time.  At the moment, I can't think of the lady (Marshall I believe) who is always critical of Trump.  

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Lyndsey Marshall is a left wing hack.  O'Reilly used to have her on to feign "fair and balanced".  they are biased, bigly, at 5, 7, 8, and 10.

Juan Willams saying some stupid stuff hardly holds anyone accountable.  I didn't know Trish Regan had a show on Fox - must've been filling in for someone.

You have Boling, McCallum, Carlson, and Hannity.  Add to that Fox and Friends, which is a 3 hour trump leg humpfest.

Even some of the midday shows now (the noon estrogen show, Hemmer) are all in.

You can't pretend Fox is in any way not honest or not pro-trump. 

Don't get me wrong Coach, they're all biased.  People tend to leave Fox out of their MSM missives, but they are as bad as CNN.
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I think my bringing up the crowd size is purely because it is so trivial, yet Trump insisted on bringing it up on numerous occaisions. I can't put my faith in someone that lines his cabinet members up and asks them to sing his praises. Trump can't make a statement without exaggerating or fabricating the facts. There are too many personality flaws and frailities to allow him to be a successful leader. I don't trust or have any faith in his ability to be honest with the American public. 
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I think my bringing up the crowd size is purely because it is so trivial, yet Trump insisted on bringing it up on numerous occaisions. I can't put my faith in someone that lines his cabinet members up and asks them to sing his praises. Trump can't make a statement without exaggerating or fabricating the facts. There are too many personality flaws and frailities to allow him to be a successful leader. I don't trust or have any faith in his ability to be honest with the American public. 

(yawn) I'm disappointed you didn't post something fresh...
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I can't put my faith in someone that lines his cabinet members up and asks them to sing his praises.

First of all fake news.
Second look up the footage of Trump when he met with many of the biggest tech CEOs recently. The meeting started exactly the same with everyone thanking and hyping everyone else. You know, like it is in every corporate board room.
A few more of your posts and I can rim my margarita glass with your salt.

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Heh heh. Make it a Mexican martini.
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You are unfortunately being duped by the alt-right. Mattis was the only person in that roomthat managed to maintain his dignity. Nobody but Trump received praise. You can countewr anything with your fake-news chant, but the largest quantity originates from the White House. He is an embarrassment. 
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You are unfortunately being duped by the alt-right. Mattis was the only person in that roomthat managed to maintain his dignity. Nobody but Trump received praise. You can countewr anything with your fake-news chant, but the largest quantity originates from the White House. He is an embarrassment. 


You been practicing that line since November 2016? Obama was my embarrassment, embarrassed for my country

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They are not even the same species. Obama was a man of dignity and honesty. As is customary in politics, he made a few promises that were not possible to come about, but he didn't lie, literally, every single day. 
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They are not even the same species. Obama was a man of dignity and honesty. As is customary in politics, he made a few promises that were not possible to come about, but he didn't lie, literally, every single day. 


Sorry fresh, but saying Obama had dignity and honesty is right up there with keep your doctor.

He was an ultra partisan hack, and as a result, we now someone with no political philosophy whatsoever, which is arguably more dangerous than being a partisan hack.
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Obama set back foreign policy a decade, reduced our military preparedness, allowed Iran to go nuclear and gave them a billion to boot. Don't even get me started on his ignoring immigration laws, turning his back on the middle class, allowing men in women's restrooms, and dividing our nation on racial lines. The guy was in way over his head, and ill prepared to be the POTUS. He wasn't the man for the job.
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They are not even the same species. Obama was a man of dignity and honesty. As is customary in politics, he made a few promises that were not possible to come about, but he didn't lie, literally, every single day. 


Wow!  You didn't snort that Kool-aid, you took it intravenously.  

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Mike, I appreciate the dialog.  Sure I understand that Fox is right leaning.  I don't consider it over the pale for Trump.  I do acknowledge that the left takes a hit on Fox.  However, recent statistics from those who do those things stated that there was not one positive mention of Trump on CNN for a zillion years.  (Ok an exaggeration but the stats I read the other day were something like 90+% negative and the rest neutral.)  I recognize the pundits and who they shill for.  Still, I place value in Juan William's opinion.  Yes, that lady was Leslie Marshall and she apparently has a radio program where she is not remotely close to being middle right.  They have others as well show up but I don't recall all of their names.  Look I watch Fox.  I am informed enough to discern the Kool-Aid from the meat and potatoes.  That is why you would never see me watching Hannity.  We can agree to disagree on this and that is great.  

Take care,

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This is just not true. I've seen Trump supporters on just about every panel discussion on CNN. I sometimes think CNN goes overboard trying to passify the right. Let's face it, most of the pure news of the Trump administration is negative and disturbing. I have people on Fox that I listen to for the alternative to CNN. Fox and Friends is unwatchable, but Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith seem legit. While I don't usually agree with the politics, I don't see the knee jerk use of any "news" just to bolster their opinion. 
All cable news sources, by their nature, must cater to their audience for ratings. This taints the story, but I still haven't seen any evidence of "fake news", only sources that later proved to be wrong. I see these as different.
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I've seen Trump supporters on just about every panel discussion on CNN. I sometimes think CNN goes overboard trying to passify the right.  Shepard Smith seem legit. I don't see the knee jerk use of any "news" just to bolster their opinion. 
I still haven't seen any evidence of "fake news", only sources that later proved to be wrong.


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This is just not true. I've seen Trump supporters on just about every panel discussion on CNN. I sometimes think CNN goes overboard trying to passify the right. Let's face it, most of the pure news of the Trump administration is negative and disturbing. I have people on Fox that I listen to for the alternative to CNN. Fox and Friends is unwatchable, but Chris Wallace and Shepard Smith seem legit. While I don't usually agree with the politics, I don't see the knee jerk use of any "news" just to bolster their opinion. 
All cable news sources, by their nature, must cater to their audience for ratings. This taints the story, but I still haven't seen any evidence of "fake news", only sources that later proved to be wrong. I see these as different.


What isn't true?  There have been two different independent firms come to the same conclusion about CNN Coverage.  That wasn't my opinion.  You can do your own research.  

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