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outofzone

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Most cal instate is more expensive than out of state? That don't smell right


Think he meant Ca in-state tuition is more expensive than other out of State schools, out of state tuition.
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So for an example:

UCLA in state tuition: $33,604

South Carolina out of state tuition: $44,408
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Cal Berkeley in State is $34,400

Georgia out of state is $45,688
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Duke has the #13 ranked recruiting class next year and 4 of their 7 commits are pitchers.  Isn't that considered a position of strength on this years team?  Everybody wants a deep bullpen but there's only one ball, one circle and at least 8 (if not 9 when talking pitchers) other spots in the batting order to fill.

There's yet another flaw with Flo's ranking system, they just add up the arbitrarily assigned numbers without account for the position needs of a program.


I do know one of those kids will enroll early, this January. So Duke will have 4 Pitchers on the Roster this Spring. The early arrival will contribute right away with her bat for sure.

I agree Dusty, 1 ball...makes for a competitive environment.
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A lot of players in CA leave because just about every school in the Southeast has cheaper out-of-state tuition than most CA schools are in-state...especially when you factor in room and board.


Well as others have said, that dog don't hunt.
Another factor is some GPA requirements.
Some not so high to get in. Believe it or not some of these girls want to be doctors and lawyers and such.
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As far as pitchers go, Nobody is good when they get to college, save a handful. Especially if they are trying to pitch in the SEC, Pac 12, Big 12 or ACC. etc. The difference between top club and top college is night and day. I see a lot of comments about pitchers and pitching and who is good and who s not. Its obvious to me that very few really know (really know) much about pitching or whats in store for these kids at the next level.  
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Exactly. I mean look at all these California girls leaving their home State, and Georgia girls as well. Do we see Georgia or Georgia Tech stacked with them? Not as much


Not arguing with you, but most coaches have long known it's rare to get a Georgia girl to travel.  Yes, they will go if they get an SEC offer, but 90+% of all Georgia recruits are withing 100 miles of home.  The state has a bunch of high quality non P5 schools stocked with local talent. Other than Glasco, who was a unique situation virtual none west of Mississippi.

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I won’t argue with that. Have you ever been to SC’s softball facility?


Yes, I visited USCe when they hosted the SEC tournament a couple of years ago.  Very nice facility.
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Cal Berkeley in State is $34,400 Georgia out of state is $45,688
Yes... I could buy that
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Not arguing with you, but most coaches have long known it's rare to get a Georgia girl to travel.  Yes, they will go if they get an SEC offer, but 90+% of all Georgia recruits are withing 100 miles of home.  The state has a bunch of high quality non P5 schools stocked with local talent. Other than Glasco, who was a unique situation virtual none west of Mississippi.

They just love being swaddled by mama till they are 22, or 52 even
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Duke has the #13 ranked recruiting class next year and 4 of their 7 commits are pitchers.  Isn't that considered a position of strength on this years team?  Everybody wants a deep bullpen but there's only one ball, one circle and at least 8 (if not 9 when talking pitchers) other spots in the batting order to fill.

There's yet another flaw with Flo's ranking system, they just add up the arbitrarily assigned numbers without account for the position needs of a program.



Sounds like Marissa Young and Lacey Waldrop are going to have their hands full trying to keep all of their pitchers happy  next season, and all the pitching in the world will not help them if they cannot score some runs!
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So for an example: UCLA in state tuition: $33,604 South Carolina out of state tuition: $44,408


Calculate the total out-of-pocket when comparing schools.  Room and board in Columbia, SC will be a lot less than Los Angeles, CA
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                                                                     UCLA 
                         
on campus     apartments       
Tuition and Fees$13,260$13,260$13,260
Room and Board$15,143$13,206$6,132
Books and Supplies$1,173$1,173$1,173
Transportation$420$843$1,431
Personal$1,431$1,635$1,563
Health Insurance [3]$2,177$2,177$2,177
Total – California Residents$33,604$32,294$25,736
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So for an example: UCLA in state tuition: $33,604 South Carolina out of state tuition: $44,408


Would also love to know the average GPA and ACT/SAT scores for both.  Given the number of kids living in CA I bet it is VERY competitive to get into one of the better state schools.
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Maybe that's why they go to AZ ?  lol Sorry, you put it out there.
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Calculate the total out-of-pocket when comparing schools.  Room and board in Columbia, SC will be a lot less than Los Angeles, CA
Out of state for anywhere is never going to be more expensive than in-state anywhere
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As far as pitchers go, Nobody is good when they get to college, save a handful. Especially if they are trying to pitch in the SEC, Pac 12, Big 12 or ACC. etc. The difference between top club and top college is night and day. I see a lot of comments about pitchers and pitching and who is good and who s not. Its obvious to me that very few really know (really know) much about pitching or whats in store for these kids at the next level.  


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Would of liked to have seen Rittman take over the KU program. 
However there are two obvious points :
OU ain't going down anytime soon.
KU only cares about B-Ball (one of the worst football programs in recent memory)
What a shame having one of the best venues in college softball. 
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Not arguing with you, but most coaches have long known it's rare to get a Georgia girl to travel.  Yes, they will go if they get an SEC offer, but 90+% of all Georgia recruits are withing 100 miles of home.  The state has a bunch of high quality non P5 schools stocked with local talent. Other than Glasco, who was a unique situation virtual none west of Mississippi.


I would disagree with 90% of Georgia girls stay in state. I know there are a lot of great options in state from NAIA to D1 just out of our high school team we had 2 at Samford 2 at Miss State 1 at West Virginia Wesleyan 1 at Western Carolina 1 at Harding 1 at South Carolina . We did have some instate schools represented west Ga , North Ga , and Mercer. Our travel team only had 4 instate committed kids one at Ga she was committed to Auburn forever and 2 to Mercer and another at UGA.
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Calculate the total out-of-pocket when comparing schools.  Room and board in Columbia, SC will be a lot less than Los Angeles, CA


Actually these figures are from the tuition/fee pages on both respective websites with room & board included
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<< As far as pitchers go, Nobody is good when they get to college, save a handful. Especially if they are trying to pitch in the SEC, Pac 12, Big 12 or ACC. etc. >> (Doctor)

I just thought I would mention that the last two freshman pitchers that Oklahoma has given an opportunity to play regularly seem to have done pretty well...

Paige Parker - freshman in 2015
G .... GS .... IP .... ER .... ERA .... H/7 .... FB/7 .... EBH/7 .... SO/7 .... OpBA .... OpOBP .... OpSLG .... OpOPS .... W-L
42 ... 31 ... 217 ... 51 ... 1.65 ... 4.16 .... 2.16 ..... 1.29 ...... 7.23 ..... .170 ....... .236 ...... .279 ........ .515 ..... 28-7

Mariah Lopez - freshman in 2017
G .... GS .... IP .... ER .... ERA .... H/7 .... FB/7 .... EBH/7 .... SO/7 .... OpBA .... OpOBP .... OpSLG .... OpOPS .... W-L
30 ... 21 ... 101 ... 30 ... 2.08 ... 4.99 .... 1.52 ..... 1.32 ...... 7.55 ..... .197 ....... .242 ...... .284 ........ .526 ..... 18-1
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Clemson now has 3 new signees for their inaugural program. All 2018s

Logan Caymol, previous TN commit
Ariel Oda,  previous Duke commit
Hannah Jo-Hyatt

Looks like Rittman is raiding Buford High School in Ga. 
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Clemson now has 3 new signees for their inaugural program. All 2018s

Logan Caymol, previous TN commit
Ariel Oda,  previous Duke commit
Hannah Jo-Hyatt

Looks like Rittman is raiding Buford High School in Ga. 

If he watched Buford much i’m Sure he wanted Kelsey Bennett.
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Passing on a Duke degree for a Clemson degree is a big downgrade.
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Will be fun to watch Rittman put together Clemson's first team. He's got about a 7 month head start in relation to when Coach Young/Duke got started putting her team together. Most likely the program will be fully funded but wondering does he have the full 12 to work with right away. An interesting balancing act considering he has to convince his early commits to sit a full year before they play their first game. 

Fall 2019 is the target date for the teams first scrimmages. All things considered, Coach Young has done a remarkable job getting the Duke program off the ground. Compared to Duke, Rittman will have a cake walk with none of the tuition & academic hurdles Young had.

How many redshirts are a good number for Rittman?  3 and counting
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Passing on a Duke degree for a Clemson degree is a big downgrade.


The Oda kid apparently changed her mind the very week or very close to her Duke Official Visit. Not sure what the back story is. Anybody know?
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If he watched Buford much i’m Sure he wanted Kelsey Bennett.


Big yes on this. Bennett dropped bombs all through state play and lit it up when the lights were the brightest, but maybe VT will be kind to her.
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Rittman stays busy adds Kyndall Murray, previous ULL commit. 
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So for an example: UCLA in state tuition: $33,604 South Carolina out of state tuition: $44,408


Some schools are a lot more "freewheeling" with scholarship money than others.  There are a lot of kids from GA who go to USCe and Ole Miss and a couple of other schools and I bet 70% of them are getting some type of "scholarship" for barely better than average grades/test scores.  A 30 on the ACT  and a 3.5+ GPA qualifies a student for a scholarship that brings tuition down to the in-state level at Alabama.


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Some schools are a lot more "freewheeling" with scholarship money than others.  There are a lot of kids from GA who go to USCe and Ole Miss and a couple of other schools and I bet 70% of them are getting some type of "scholarship" for barely better than average grades/test scores.  A 30 on the ACT  and a 3.5+ GPA qualifies a student for a scholarship that brings tuition down to the in-state level at Alabama.




Listen that previous statement about tuitions/room & board was just off. We are talking $10,000-$15,000 off.

If a kid is being recruited in that manner, some type of scholarship is involved almost anywhere, not counting the academic ones they collect as well.
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