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thefastpitchschool1

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If you would like to follow the journey of The Chinese Players in the USA?

You can go to http://www.ChineseSoftballFoundation.org  Enjoy!
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I know I'll probably take some heat, but it's how I feel. I feel as long as it doesn't take an opportunity away from an American, fine. State or federal money, no way. Private donations, fine.
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Can you post links to their colleges?
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Should be on the CSF web site soon.

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Terpfan,

Maybe you can smile? All three players are in pretty small cities in the USA!
Check out the weather in the photo's also!
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Pretty interesting blog from CSF web site!
 
 
 
 
Xiaoxue 6/9/2009 By Xiao Xue

June 9, 2009

 

I’m going back to China on this Thursday. My flight is from Reno at ten, get to Beijing at six in the afternoon while my mom will pick me up over there. I’m so excited to go back home. Mom was asking me about what do I want for the first meal in China. I said dumplings! Yeah! That’s my favorite food! But I have to stay at home for one week because the Swine Flu. I hate that, but I really don’t want to get in trouble. So, I will be a good girl =)

 

This semester has done three weeks ago. I earned a 3.86 GPA. 0.2 higher than last semester. I’m happy with that. And thanks all the people in Susanville that they gave a lot of helps. During this summer, I am still taking two correspondence classes. I’ve done with Psychology in one week. But I have to take sociology with me to China. I want to get more time to hang out with my Friend!! But I know I am a student, study is first in my life right now. So I will enjoy my summer vacation and study at the same time $)

 

Softball season has passed for a long time. But I’m still giving the little girls pitching lessons because I don’t want to leave softball. I hope softball will be a part of my life all the time. With helping those young ladies, I learned how to communicate with people, and I have to have more patience to them and control my temper. Be honest, I really had a good time with those girls.

 

I will be back in US on Aug 9th, school started at 17th. I have one more semester at Lassen College. When I get my AA Degree, I will transfer to a four years university. I love my life in Susanville even it is a really small town, but I had so much fun there.

 

Anyway, I have to do packing and cleaning my room right now, I left all the stuff on the floor, and there’s no room for my feet to stand there. So, I will keep renew my blog, and hope everyone have a great summer!!

 


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The girls are back in the US now and are back in school.  Here are their blogs from the summer.

 

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XiaoXue 8/13/2009

August 13, 2009

I had a great time in China. To being around my family was the happiest thing in my life.

 

I stayed in China from almost two months. The first week I was in the medicate isolation because there was a guy had Swine flu on the plane. They took me to the hotel, and I got mad cause I’ve been stayed home for four days already, and nothing happened to me, but I still have to isolate for more days. I felt like I wasted my time in Beijing.

 

After the medicate isolation, I went back to Shan Xi for visit my grandparents. They were so glad to see me. My grandpa has called me for times to ask me when I’m going to visit them. He gave me a big hug while I got there. I had fun in Shan Xi.

 

Then, I went back to Beijing, my friends miss me so much, we had party together. I haven’t seen them for a while, so I was so excited to meet them. With staying at home, I also had to do my correspondence class. I used a long time to finish it because I always want to go out to play. To be honest, I did a lot of shopping in China. I think shopping is a part of girl’s life=).

 

In the end of July, my dad went to Italy for a swimming event, and my mom went to Norway. So I was alone at home. But during that time, I learned how to play tennis, it was fun, I had a coach to teach me. But I wish that I had a better tennis rackets.

 

My parents came back to Beijing six days before I leave. And I just spent time with my dad four days this summer. He was so busy. Finally, he took me to the airport with my mom together. He gave a big bite on my arm when I was saying bye. I knew he will miss me so much.

 

Now, I’m back to US again. The school will be start at next Monday. I am trying to change the time different, it’s hard, and I’ve been fallen asleep after 5 in the morning three days. But I think I will be fine when school started.

 

Lu Xing 8/10/2009
August 10, 2009

 

I hope I can write all my summer experience down to share with you! I will try my best to do it!

I came back in Beijing in the evening of May 20th. I missed Beijing very bad at that time...everything in Beijing except the traffic, haha. Chinese people think H1N1 flu is very important because we have the experience of SARS in 2003. It made me take a little longer time to pass the Customs. But that is okay, I can understand.

I stayed at home for a couple of days to get some rest, and then went to school to see my highschool teachers and coach. We were all very happy. My coach wanted my to help him coaching the team, and I said okay, let me do it. I bring some very good softball skills and training methods from the U.S., there is no way I won't share them with my old teammates to help strong China softball. The following month I went to school almost everyday, and I was very excited to see those young girls got better and better. I think they are really really lucky because they can get such advanced softball knowledge.

Also I went to hospitals to see several doctors about my shoulder. They said it's not a very big deal but I need very good rest. At least it was not a bad news.

Then in the early of July, highschool and middle school students were facing the end of the semester, so they stop practicing. I went to Tai Mountain with my family during that period. We took a five hours train ride from Beijing to Taian, which is located in Shandong Province. Tai Mountain is the head of the Five Mountains. I wanted to go there very long time ago...We started climbing at about 11 pm in the night, and arrived at the summit in the early morning, about 4 am. We expected to see sunrise, but who knows it started raining at 5 am...I feel a little disappointed...

After I came back from Tai Mountain, we started preparing for Tee ball national game. All the players were very excited about it because it's the first time a Youth National Game that is held in Beijing! It's our place! During the games our team dominated all the games and won the champion at the end. I was really happy as an assistant coach, and it was my birthday the next day after we won! What a great gift!

Now I'm help coaching middle school players from the team for 2 weeks. High school affiliated to BIT has both middle school and high school. My coach said he may want to take those girls to the U.S. to play some games with teams there. Maybe they will go there next summer? I'm not sure yet...but yes they will go to the U.S. someday! And I'm excited to see them in America!

I got my new F1 visa last week...I really need to start packing now. I have 3 days left before I leave for school. We will play a game with Team Shijingshan District in the afternoon of August 12th. I think it will be a good memory. It feels like we will play a game just for me and jj!

I miss all my friends in America, and I will miss all my China friends when I go back to the U.S. for sure!

Okay, let's face the new semester!

Bear

Chenxi Jiao 6/18/09

June 18, 2009

I'll go to Xi'an today. The city which is the captial of China in Qin dynasty. The most famous thing in there is The terra - cotta warrior and horses. 

Xiaoxue 6/9/2009

June 9, 2009

I’m going back to China on this Thursday. My flight is from Reno at ten, get to Beijing at six in the afternoon while my mom will pick me up over there. I’m so excited to go back home. Mom was asking me about what do I want for the first meal in China. I said dumplings! Yeah! That’s my favorite food! But I have to stay at home for one week because the Swine Flu. I hate that, but I really don’t want to get in trouble. So, I will be a good girl =)

This semester has done three weeks ago. I earned a 3.86 GPA. 0.2 higher than last semester. I’m happy with that. And thanks all the people in Susanville that they gave a lot of helps. During this summer, I am still taking two correspondence classes. I’ve done with Psychology in one week. But I have to take sociology with me to China. I want to get more time to hang out with my Friend!! But I know I am a student, study is first in my life right now. So I will enjoy my summer vacation and study at the same time $)

Softball season has passed for a long time. But I’m still giving the little girls pitching lessons because I don’t want to leave softball. I hope softball will be a part of my life all the time. With helping those young ladies, I learned how to communicate with people, and I have to have more patience to them and control my temper. Be honest, I really had a good time with those girls.  

I will be back in US on Aug 9th, school started at 17th. I have one more semester at Lassen College. When I get my AA Degree, I will transfer to a four years university. I love my life in Susanville even it is a really small town, but I had so much fun there.

Anyway, I have to do packing and cleaning my room right now, I left all the stuff on the floor, and there’s no room for my feet to stand there. So, I will keep renew my blog, and hope everyone have a great summer!!

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OC - What a wonderful life experience you have had. I envy your perspective gained.
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Chenxi Jiao 9/9/09  

 

September 9, 2009

 

I'm in highland CC--kansas this year. Here is a really small town. And corn in anywhere. But I like here. This year Lu and me stay together. And we got a kitchen, cook every week. I'm doing good in softball also. I hit a home run when we practice. And I also do good in pitch. We will have games on this weekend. I think I'll do good also.


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I know I'll probably take some heat, but it's how I feel. I feel as long as it doesn't take an opportunity away from an American, fine. State or federal money, no way. Private donations, fine.

Terpfan,
I agree, and yes I took some heat for this some time back.  I have to believe that if they are being paid State or Federal Scholarship money it is an opportunity for an American Player.
I know that folks on this board push international ball, but to the extent of taking an opportunity from a player who they or their parents have paid taxes for 18 years.
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Unfortuntly there is no rule that states that state universities cannot offer scholarship to foreigners.

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I don't think schools will ever propose such a rule either. How many foreign students are in Volleyball, Basketball (girls) and tennis and track..... alot. 

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toroman do you know if other countries also give athletic scholarship to foreign student. I do not agree with this rule.
Why should my taxes pay for a non american student.
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Hammer,
never heard of an american student going to England/Germany/France/Russia/Italy/Japan/or China on an athletic scholarship.. Maybe somebody might know about somebody going to Canada?

I just have to believe that in the area around the CC that some Kansas Softball player would love to have that scholarship... but maybe not the coach might have had a couple sitting on her desk unclaimed, so the coach had to search the world over and found the players in china.
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I wonder why The USA Governement allows this? The Chinese players found the coaches. You should do a little research to find out how many American College students there are in China today. So sad to see the uneducated posts.
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I don't think anyone said that there are not american students overseas, but the issue is one of those students on athletic scholarhips let alone academic scholarships.  I think Hammer and myself put out that question, does anyone know of an american student overseas on an athletic scholarship.

I just don't know of any, but if you ask my wife there are alot of things that I don't know about either.
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There are many American students attending academic institutions outside of the USA that are receiving government funds from each individual country. When you pay your taxes. Do you note on your tax return not for athletic scholarship use? This type of thinking in the USA today truly saddens me.

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There are american students outside the USA on Athletic Scholarships..... Really?  WOW I didn't know that..... Which sport? which country? which school?

There are american Students outside the USA on Academic Scholarships.... Really?  Wow I didn't know that .... Which Major? Which country? which School? and is it the Country's tax dollars or is it a private donation?  If it is the country's tax money well... I didn't know that...

thanks for setting me straight.
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A sincere thank you Frank! The perspective from looking outside in has been so educational for me! Can you offer any advice as to how to assist others in the education of International Perspective? I hope you are healthy and well! OC1

Just wait until some of the dolts from the Misc board get their teeth into this one.
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Toroman, here is an example...
 
Chinese government offers more scholarships to foreign students in China
Source: People’s Daily Online, 2009-04-02
 
China will gradually increase investment over the next several years to boost the number of foreign students receiving scholarships from the Chinese government. It is estimated that by 2013, the number of foreign students in China receiving government scholarships will double from the current figure, according to the 2009 Work Conference on Chinese Government Scholarships for Foreign Students in China held at the Shanghai based Fudan University. In 2008, the number of foreign students financed by scholarships from the Chinese government reached 13,516, up 33.15 percent from the previous year.

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Are you saying that all these scholarship are for american students?????
That's what toroman asked.

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I think American students as a whole are less comfortable living outside the United States and going to school than most other Nationalities.

First, the college level education available is at a high standard in America.

Secondly, many of those students who might be interested do not speak a second language. In Europe many people are not just bilingual, they are able to communicate in a number of languages.

Finally, the education that many Americans receive is restricted to American history and culture. Their learning curve at a foreign college would likely be quite steep, relatively speaking.



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toroman,

are you serious?

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Have not commented on this thread, but have read from beginning.  Can't hold it back any longer.

Are there really those here that really give a good rats a&& if a few foreign students come here and happen to receive an athletic scholarship? This (my opinion) type of an attitude among many of us, is just another reason, added to the multitude of others, we are not the most popular country (to say the LEAST) in the world.  We are SO full of ourselves, it becomes nauseating.

We have absolutely NO problems in "shipping US jobs overseas, which only serves to increase the unemployment rate here, but a few Chinese young ladies come here to test our "softball water", and many jump sky high.

What is the matter with us???
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toroman,

are you serious?

Coach,
I am serious that I do not know of one American Athlete receiving athletic funds in an overseas school.  Do you? Does Anybody? Also I do not know of one American Student receiving academic (taxpayer not private donations/trust such as Rhodes Scholarship and not exchange programs of we send 4 students and you send 4 students to wash out). Do you? If there is,  I am suprised.

Indyrun,
I am sure you are aware of the numerous kids Every summer of their senior year of high school that hasn't picked up the D1/D11/D111/NAIA coaches attention that is trying to pick up that last of the JUCO scholarships out there.  As stated before, typically the JUCO's are the most fully funded, I know most Florida Juco's carry 20 scholarships.  The JUCO coaches don't sign their kids til after Jan/Feb of the players senior year. some save a couple in their pocket for that last summer push.  There are kids working hard on the summer exposure hoping for that scholarship.  Yes kids that have families paying $$$$$ in local/state/federal taxes that ultimately FUND those taxes.

So as to the Chinese players, are they on a softball scholarship at the JUCO that took that opportunity to play from a local kid or even a kid in the same state (Kansas I think) If that CC coach did that with tax money then that is wrong (i said wrong not illegal or violative of any NCAA/JNCAA rule).  If the JUCO coach didn't have a player knocking at his door or was turned down by those he offered, then OK.  If not that player's tax money was improperly used.
If the Chinese player, their family, or their government paid the cost then the question of taking a roster spot is not the issue.

Indy that is just my opinion.  I don't mean to sound like an isolationist or one that doesnt want to help those in need or full of himself. But i think taxmoney earmarked for public education should benefit tax paying citizens and their families.  I feel the same way with Academic scholarships too.  And it doesn't matter if the players are from Canada either. 

I  doubt that most country's like us because we provide athletic scholarships to their top athletes.  Most countries dislike America because we have historically told them, if you want our money you have to govern and act our way, and if you don't we have the military muscle to make it our way. If you treat your people in a way that we disagree, we will invade you, topple your government, try you as a criminal and execute you.  That is what Bin Laden might think.  And I really don't care what he thinks, although we have to understand there are those that hate us in the world. It doesn't have a thing to do with education.
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toroman, it's not only your opinion.
i am sure it is most american athlete parents.
I don't want my taxes to pay for a foreign athlete.
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Then I'd suggest you need to start a "keep the foreign players at home" group that extends to all sports.  I work very closely with the UA VB program, AND, know for a fact (check out most any D1 program's VB web site) that Many, many, many foreign young ladies play for Di, top of the line volleyball programs, and the numbers are growing.

We had a tourney here this past weekend, and one team here (very good D1 program) fielded about 10 young ladies from Eastern Block countries, out of a squad of 12-14.  Another that we played last year - one all would recognize - had 14 of 16 players that were from other countries.  The PAC 10, of 10 clubs, probably (I could go to each of their sites and check, but won't - any can, that wishes) 6 or 7 have more than one young lady that is not a citizen here, and know of one - check it out - that has 7 or 8.

I'm confused, because wouldn't your same philosophies apply to students (maybe/likely scholarship students, maybe not, but ALL taking a "slot") that come from other countries, and go to schools that limit their enrollment?

This direction just confuses the heck out of me.  We are supposed to be a "world", and not just an isolationist country, that our benefits are available ONLY to those fortunate enough to have been either born here or have become citizens.  Whatever happened to "Give me your tired and your poor, the huddled masses..."? 

This is America and I, for one, am excited that those from elsewhere WANT to come here and partake of some of the positives that we so broadly expound to the world.
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Indyrun,
you are so right about Volleyball, it is full of players from Eastern Europe or Brazil.  Ironically, Club volleyball is Full of kids hoping to get those scholarships.  For those of us that have gone down the travel softball route, its cost doesn't hold a candle to the cost of club volleyball.  They have to pay for AC Gyms which is a little more than an open softball field.

There must be plenty of players who have worked hard(and parents paid taxes as an investment in this country) to get beat out by a foriegn player.  How many American Students play sports in Universities in Bulgaria or Brazil?

I think this area is just one where you and I disagree.  That is what makes this country great. Further I respect your opinion and am sure that like my life'sexperiences developed my opinion yours has developed your opinion.


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I have already lived in Highland for a month. The campus is a litter bigger than Western Texas, and our campus apartment is really good for me and jj because we got a kitchen! So I can cook Chinese food when we want to eat some. It is awesome! Especially when the cafe in school is not really good... I also cooked some food for couple of my teammates, and made them really happy!

I have 18 hours this semester, English 2, Calculus, Chemistry, Geography, Softball and Orientation. So far all of my grades are As. I'm pretty happy for that. I think I can keep them for the whole semester!

For softball, I need to say I appreciate Highland very much...coaches are really nice, teammates are really nice, just all of them make me feel really comfortable. It is way much better than I was in WTC!

We have already played  7 games, and I play catcher, first base and sometimes pitcher. I'm so glad that I hit my first RBI base hit, and I pitched 2 1/3 innings as reliefing pitcher, allowed no runs! I also caught a runner at second when I play catcher, which is really a surprise because I still can't use my shoulder as I want...it's still some problem there...but hopefully it won't hurt me too bad anymore.

What I want to say now is, thank coaches very much for trust me, I will give the best effort I can, and try to do great jobs on everything! 


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Tim,

The perspective of many that resembles some on this thread. Can go along way in educating people as to why Baseball and Softball are no longer on the Olympic Programme. Amen to you!

Hammer, You never seem to get it! Simply at times in life you have to know the definition of Get? and It? Wish you the best!

Toroman, You keep mentioning Athletic Scholarship? Does the type of scholarship rendered matter to you?

Does any part of National Collegiate Athletic Association have American's only in it's rules and guidelines?

So sad...

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