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There was this place one time.  They pretty much was the epitomie of letting everyone do what they wanted to do.  A lot of salt was to be found there some time later. 


Utah?  Polygamy? New books of the Bible? Lost tribes of Israel?
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jayrot, and again, believe in whatever you want to believe in.  We will all stand and be counted.  We will all have to answer for what happens on this earth. 


Yes we will, and all of our sins will be equal ... none worse than the other.  As long as we know who our Creator is, and know that we have lived in his image, we can also know that he forgives us of our sins as long as we accept him as our true Creator.  Will James Holmes be in heaven with all of us?  Not for us to decide, that decision belongs to someone else.

What I do believe is that oftentimes organized religion is the downfall of all things spiritual ... including the Mormon church as I mentioned before.  Then again, even they can modify their stance on issues to help increase their congregation numbers (and make them more politically correct).
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Dewey, I'd say one Presidential election and you can pretty much throw away any remaining conservative beliefs/values of this nation.  


What do the conservative beliefs and values of this nation matter to you?  Or by conservative beliefs and values, do you mean religious beliefs and values, since your next sentence seems to hang on Sodom and Gomorrah?

Reason I ask about the religion portion is because for some reason I think American's often put this magical connection between America being linked to a Godly-religion and their ability to get into heaven.  Or some weird notion that America is this wonderful land of God's children.  Well when your founding fathers (i.e. Thomas Jefferson) can't even hold up the Christian values and morals, then what does that really say about your country and the values it was built upon.  Maybe I'm not the best fisher-of-men, and I'm most definitely one of doubting Thomas's children, but for me what other people believe plays very little into my life.  You can make your choices, because they do not matter in the slightest when it comes to the choices I make.  Could you live in Sodom and Gomorrah and still have been a Christian?

now back to more fun things ... ASA softball.
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Babies daddies that run away from their responsibilities of parenting and support of their children is a story for another day.


How convenient for you jayrot for leaving out my last sentence concerning the wicked abuser in your wife's family, you know the sentence immediately following the quote you made.  Now you grow the hell up and learn to read disclaimers. 

Does not my last sentence of my post, address possible future discussions of sorry ass daddies?  I said also there are thousands of papers written to solidify my statements.  The situation you described is akin to not growing up with a daddy at all.

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jayrot, a part of your last statement makes me wonder.  Abraham, Lot and their families lived there.  They pretty much found themselves living in terrible times and so they were rescued from there.

However, being an American has nothing to do with one's ability to get into Heaven.  However, I see a continued decline in our morality and values.  Let's take the Deadly Sin of being Sloth.  The left would say that we have to take care of these poor souls.  The Bible says that people are to work and that laziness is a sin.  The Left wants to define that as laziness of the soul and not of a person's efforts.  Sitting around and waiting for handouts is sinful if that is your way of life.  Not talking about receiving help sometimes.  At least that is how I was raised.  The continued MURDER/support of murder of unborn babies will not be well recieved in my opinion when some are recieved at the gates of Heaven. 

Is Romney the answer to all of this?  I don't know.   I don't believe, imo, our current President is at all.  However, it is just my humble opinion and so, who am I?  Just a sinner.


I think putting faith in any one earthly person (including the President) to turn around the morality or values of a country is a waste of time.  That could just be me, and in a way seems like that deadly sin of sloth to me as well, because you are wanting someone else to turn around the environment that you live in and the way in which you live your life.

Now you bring in sloth and welfare.  The reality is I don't like people who are grossly abusing welfare, but there is also a segment of the population that actually needs this welfare for good ... not just to be slothful.  In other words, it isn't the idea that is screwed it is the implementation of the concept that is screwed.

You are just going to throw in as many different topics as you can aren't you?  Like now you are adding abortion.  Personally that is a sore topic, because the murder of unborn babies can extend to God himself can't it?  Who takes credit for those unborn babies that are lost to miscarriage?  I'm sure if Westboro Baptist were here they'd be sure to let me know it is the sins of America and the earthly planet that are causing God to seek wrath on women by taking their unborn babies.  As my aunt has told us on multiple occasions, God gave you a brain, God gave you the ability to use it, and he expects you to make the best decisions in each situation.

It just seems like everything is so black and white with some people.  Like a father who says, since my sister isn't playing the game right, none of you 3 kids can play the game.  Why?  She is the only one not playing right, but the lowest common denominator causes the whole game to go to waste.

You know sometimes life is just life and not much more than that.  Sometimes these discussion are fun, and sometimes they are more depressing than they are worthwhile.  I can understand everyone's perspective. I understand that there has been a large success rate with "traditional marriage" when it comes to one man and one woman, and when done right is a beautiful thing.  But I am also aware than single parents can raise children to be just as wonderful as children raised by a mom and a dad ... same can be said for homosexual parents.  It is also worth noting all of those forms of raising children can also produce horrendous children ... but in many cases I tend to lean to the fact that society also has a large part to do with the development of children.  (which brings up the fact that I didn't realize that Australia supplemented every family with children with a monthly stipend per child ... that'd never go over to well in this "where are my tax dollars being used" country of America).  I can understand some people not wanting to see homosexuals married because it does not fit into their definition of religious marriage, and my only statement on that is that I hope this country does not take the stance on making all sins illegal, because we'd be in a world of hurt.

I'd rather just spend my time on Earth enjoying what is put in from of me and the beauty of everything that surrounds me ... and that includes most people.
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Babies daddies that run away from their responsibilities of parenting and support of their children is a story for another day.


How convenient for you jayrot for leaving out my last sentence concerning the wicked abuser in your wife's family.  Now you grow the hell up and learn to read disclaimers. 

Does not my last sentence of my post address possible future discussions of sorry ass daddies?  I said also there are thousands of papers written to solidify my statements.  The situation you described is akin to not growing up with a daddy at all.


Or a mother, but hey, it was a traditional marriage so all is good.

You are referring to this sentence:

"Babies daddies that run away from their responsibilities of parenting and support of their children is a story for another day."

He didn't run away from responsibilities ... he was there every day, and raised money for the family, and also made sure they followed in line with his orders and his way of acting/thinking.

Edit: I know I might be opening a can of worms, but I'd love to hear your take on adoption as it pertains to raising children.  Is that not a form of a father/mother running away from their responsibilities? 
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He didn't run away from responsibilities ... he was there every day, and raised money for the family, and also made sure they followed in line with his orders and his way of acting/thinking.


dude, we can argue semantics all freaking day long.  A father that does not provide, cherish, love and protect his family is a sorry individual and one that "runs away from his responsibilities".  Start a thread on sorry daddies, I'll chime in. 

This thread was a Chick-fil-a and traditional families thread.  I support the notion of 1 woman, 1 man raising children.  I could care less about what the gays do frolicking in their bedrooms.

You got horror stories, I got 'em too.  We will discuss my 20 something year old son, the one raised by his mom while she was in a long lasting lesbian relationship, she moved my son to Colorado with her and her partner when he was in the 8th grade.  We'll talk about the struggles she had, because she would call and tell me, of raising a normal teen age boy.  We'll talk about the way he has struggled in life, never had a job for longer than a year straight[6 years out of high school], moved in and out of his momma's house.  Never learned discipline from 2 liberal leaning, spare the rod, let's be friends before parents, parents.  Then we will talk about the 2, twenty something girls that were raised in my house, one a college graduate, working on her masters and a 4th grade teacher.  The other 20 something girl in the house, a senior in college.  Very respectful to her family.

Now thanks for your bit of family history, that is mine.  Now go away

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He didn't run away from responsibilities ... he was there every day, and raised money for the family, and also made sure they followed in line with his orders and his way of acting/thinking.


dude, we can argue semantics all freaking day long.  A father that does not provide, cherish, love and protect his family is a sorry individual and one that "runs away from his responsibilities".  Start a thread on sorry daddies, I'll chime in. 

This thread was a Chick-fil-a and traditional families thread.  I support the notion of 1 woman, 1 man raising children.  I could care less about what the gays do frolicking in their bedrooms.

You got horror stories, I got 'em too.  We will discuss my 20 something year old son, the one raised by his mom while she was in a long lasting lesbian relationship, she moved my son to Colorado with her and her partner when he was in the 8th grade.  We'll talk about the struggles she had, because she would call and tell me, of raising a normal teen age boy.  We'll talk about the way he has struggled in life, never had a job for longer than a year straight[6 years out of high school], moved in and out of his momma's house.  Never learned discipline from 2 liberal leaning, spare the rod, let's be friends before parents, parents.  Then we will talk about the 2, twenty something girls that were raised in my house, one a college graduate, working on her masters and a 4th grade teacher.  The other 20 something girl in the house, a senior in college.  Very respectful to her family.

Now thanks for your bit of family history, that is mine.  Now go away


You'd think by that story alone that you'd realize not to try and force a society into a "traditional marriage" when it does nothing but negatively affect all the people involved.  

I'll leave the rest of my comments out of it, because it's not my life and not something I have to deal with, but an interesting story that echoes that of my father-in-law's first marriage that was to a lesbian and his mother (or my grandmother-in-law) ended up raising the child partly because he was in the military and deployed all too often and the lesbian mother skipped town.    We all have stories, but some let our past hinder the future.  Or I could tell you about my brother-in-law who is in the Navy coming home after 10 years of marriage and his wife telling him she was a lesbian (thankfully they never had kids), and that she was only using him to get Chief in the Navy.  See these are the things that happen when society tries to force situations ... or at least that is just my opinion.

My belief in marriage is that it should be something that happens between two people who actually love each other, and that does not rely on gender or ability to raise kids.  If your marriage is of a Christian belief and you are one woman and one man, then that is great.  If you are just bettering society by marrying the person you true love and not screwing up other people's lives, then that is great too.

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"Homosexual activists"? LOL. How 1975. Did Anita Bryant do that write up?
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Dewey you may not get all your answers from those on this forum.  Some further research may need to be done by you on some of your queries independent from this forum.



Do ya think?  If you've been reading along in other threads, other than vol52, this is quickly becoming the norm.


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Now my question to you is, relative to the thread title, will you be joining us at Chick-fil-a on August 1st or do you plan to boycott?  Which will it be?


I've been to this place once in my life, (actually twice but it was closed the second time).  I won't be there August 1st but it is unrelated to a boycott.  You're free to question my decision because the buck buck stops here.  ;-)

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Chick-fil-A's vice president of public relations, Don Perry, died suddenly early Friday, the company said, leaving the embattled restaurant chain without its chief spokesman amid a marketing crisis.

"Don was a member of our Chick-fil-A family for nearly 29 years," the company said in a statement. "For many of you in the media, he was the spokesperson for Chick-fil-A. He was a well-respected and well-liked media executive in the Atlanta and University of Georgia communities, and we will all miss him."


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Dewey

I've been to this place once in my life, (actually twice but it was closed the second time).  I won't be there August 1st but it is unrelated to a boycott.  You're free to question my decision because the buck buck stops here.  ;-)

Must have went 2nd time on a Sunday ?
I love Chick-Fil-A, they have some of the healthiest meals there are for a fast food restaurant.
I do not take part in boy-cotts of any kind, they end up hurting a lot of people & in many cases lose people jobs.

MOST OF ALL- I love their commercials & look for their billboards as I travel, kind of like Burma Shave to me...love the cows.

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Boy, I have written so many drafts for this one....and deleted each and every one because I was getting more and more controversial.
Mr. Cathy is a devout Christian man. His company was founded and operated on these values for the whole time they have been in operation. He believes in Traditional Marriage. The Bible States it and he believes it. Now as far as being smart business to state ones feelings I dont know. The man has more money than most people and uses it for the benefit of others. aka...he built a school in Georgia based on The Very Christian values he uses in his business.
Now, here is where I get some riled up......I believe there is such a repugnant vein of society in regards to how people are expected to behave and what they are supposed to say. I shudder to think what would have happened to his business if he stated something racial....the stores would have been marched upon, protested, and his life would be in danger.
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Laura Ingram just asked a guy representing Gay Marriage if the owner of chic fil a is entitled to his own opinion.  The answer was not when he is preaching hate.  How was he preaching hate?  His remark was that he supported traditional marriage.  Ingram then asked him if he is entitled to his chrisitan beliefs.  Basically that guy said no if they are based upon hate.  She then said to him if he believed that any person who believes in traditional marriage as represented by their faith has a right to do so.  He said that they do but if they bring that into the public sector then they deserved to have retaliation toward them.  WOW!


"Deserved" wouldn't be the word I would use there. It's more they "should expect" to have retaliation towards them. Look, it's not pretty, and I am in no way saying that it is right, but scrutiny for what you say in the public is now the norm. If you say it for the ears of the public, well then you will get public support or scrutiny. Not saying it's right, just saying that is what times are like at this present time.


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Laura Ingram just asked a guy representing Gay Marriage if the owner of chic fil a is entitled to his own opinion.  The answer was not when he is preaching hate.  How was he preaching hate?  His remark was that he supported traditional marriage.  Ingram then asked him if he is entitled to his chrisitan beliefs.  Basically that guy said no if they are based upon hate.  She then said to him if he believed that any person who believes in traditional marriage as represented by their faith has a right to do so.  He said that they do but if they bring that into the public sector then they deserved to have retaliation toward them.  WOW!


"Deserved" wouldn't be the word I would use there. It's more like they "should expect" to have retaliation towards them. Look, it's not pretty, and I am in no way saying that it is right, but scrutiny for what you say in the public is now the norm. If you say it for the ears of the public, well then you will get public support or scrutiny from the public. Not saying it's right, just saying that is what times are like at this present time.
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Our american society is too liberal.
We are a nanny state with millions of people who feel entitled to get handouts and say whatever they want but if you say something they do not like they want to punish you with protests or sue you. A society where a person can sue for burning their mouth on hot coffee. A guy decided to sue Jordan and Nike for $832 million for his "emotional pain and suffering." because he looked like michael jordan. wtf?
A society where people sue haunted houses for being too scary.

And retaliation means you were injured and lash back. Many of the people complaining aren't gay. What injury or wrong done to them are they taking retribution against? More like punishing chick fill A for not supporting gay marriage. It has long been known they backed traditional marriage and they have funded defense of marriage groups for years. This didn't just happen. Ownership saying they did gave people the excuse to take their frustrations out on chick fill a. Just like the occupy movement., Most had no clue why they were there--and were just there to stick it to the man by hanging out in tents and pretending it was woodstock.

This is stalemate which in the end benefits chick fill a with the publicity.
The percentage of people they lost was made up for by the percentage of people who go out of their way to eat there now in support. And eat there more often than normal just to support them. And for the places in chicago and boston that didnt let them in there will be backlash to those polititans from the christian community---see it works both ways. Those guys made public statements and got involved. And others will invite chick fill a to build in their areas. Most of their locales are in bible belt so they are  fine. And gay marriage is fine since it will b e approved nationally within 10 years. Everybody wins in the end (except abc who already misreported parts of this)


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Laura Ingram just asked a guy representing Gay Marriage if the owner of chic fil a is entitled to his own opinion.  The answer was not when he is preaching hate.  How was he preaching hate?  His remark was that he supported traditional marriage.  Ingram then asked him if he is entitled to his chrisitan beliefs.  Basically that guy said no if they are based upon hate.  She then said to him if he believed that any person who believes in traditional marriage as represented by their faith has a right to do so.  He said that they do but if they bring that into the public sector then they deserved to have retaliation toward them.  WOW!


I saw that interview, he also used the word "anti-gay" at least a half dozen times during the conversation.  He stated Mr. Cathy was anti-gay even after Laura told him that chick-fil-a serves and hires gays in their restaurants and treats all with respect who enter their stores..  The guy could not and would not get off the "anti-gay" theme.

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I think this fits in in some obtuse way:   A group entitled "Kids Count" has published a survey dealing state by state with "Overall Child Well Being".  They do publish their criteria for judgement.  So what did they find????

1.  Top three states are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts.
2. Bottom three states are Mississippi, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Of the top 33 out of 50 states, none are in the South. North Carolina was #34.  

OK - fire away !!!!!      Frank



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I think this fits in in some obtuse way:   A group entitled "Kids Count" has published a survey dealing state by state with "Overall Child Well Being".  They do publish their criteria for judgement.  So what did they find????

1.  Top three states are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts.
2. Bottom three states are Mississippi, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Of the top 33 out of 50 states, none are in the South. North Carolina was #34.  

OK - fire away !!!!!      Frank




First reason that comes to mind would be that I expect a higher rate of poverty in Mississippi and New Mexico. 

Nevada being on the survey surprises me, though, since "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas!"
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Follow the money.  The bottom 3 are relatively impoverished states and top 3 (New England) got the brains.  I'll find the link for the rest
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Ahhh...eating beef and watching White Collar on USA network!

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Christianity: where "keeping to the faith" means snidely going out of your way to be a dick by buying chicken sandwiches from a corporation. 

I'm gay and don't mind that their CEO has so and so opinions. But seriously, this is the best you can do? Keep up the good fight, Christians. Keep it up.

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Just sent my wife to Chick-fil-a for a family platter of chicken nuggets!
Since they are not open on Sunday, our church will be going there in shifts next week. Our goal is that they sell out of nuggets this week!

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Think this is a ploy to sell chicken in a down economy?    
Remember that the only value attached to capitalism is the profit motive.  Is it difficult to be a Christian and a capitalist at the same time??????   

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What? Why would it be difficult to be both a Christian and a free market capitalist at the same time?
Jesus was a carpenter. Paul was a tent maker. The disciples were physicians and fishermen.
I certainly don't think they were communists.

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If someone is going to point the finger at christians for having a "chick fill a appreciation day" what about the aug. 3rd same sex kiss-in at all chick fill a locations.

When polititians, celebs, and others are calling for protests and bans of chick fill a because of their stand on traditional marriage it seems logical to have an appreciation day for those who stand behind them. They have customer appreciation days all the time so why not a company appreciation day in the midst of them getting hammered by liberal media. It is better than straight men and women going to chick fill a on the 3rd and kissing and posting the pics and causing a disturbance. Occupy chick fill a is going to be a disaster. The appreciation day will have coverage from fox news and support from many churches and conservative media and personalities on radio etc.
They are supporting . The kiss is is to cause chaos and harm. It isn't supporting gay marriage (as several gay groups an sites have claimed and mostly straight people who feel they are doing gay community a favor are calling for the kiss in).

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Grandpa Dewey had a couple dozen very popular restaurants throughout the South in the fifties and sixties.  When the interracial marriage issue was headed for the SC, Grandpa came out in favor of anti-miscegenation laws and offended many of his customers.  Many boycotted eating at his restaurants as they deplored his opinion on the controversial subject.  Do you really think they were out of line to protest?  Would you have joined an eat at Grandpa Dewey's restaurant day?  Is there really a difference now as compared to then?  Now that interracial marriage is legal, would it be wrong for a business owner to announce he was for overturning the legality of such marriage?  How does a legal resolution of an issue change it's status with regards to the people?  Slavery was legal yet folks still protested.  How can anyone expect a position like Chik-fil-a has taken to not trouble a large segment of society.  If you think it shouldn't, please try to explain why.

(Full disclosure will show there never was a Grandpa Dewey's Restaurant and the example was completely fabricated.  However, for debate sake, please assume it is true.)


Edit:  I shouldn't have jumped back in again but Grizzly's post sending wife for chicken appeared to be little more than another jab at the gay community.  In any event, I understand that many cannot support same sex marriage because it goes against their beliefs.  I get that.  At the same time, I don't understand the extreme disgust with, or the need to rub it in, those who are extremely upset over what they see as a denial of their rights.  They're not unlike women fighting for a right to vote or individuals fighting for the right to marry another race.  Most of this thread seems to question the legitimacy of their outrage and right to protest, including the guy Ms. Ingraham spoke with.  Maybe if you try, you can understand the other side too.

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Grizz - Aha, but were they Socialists by activity and philosophy??  
Let me put the question a different way - Can a person who believes that "Greed is good"  also believe at the same time that one should "Love his neighbor as himself"?  

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Grizz - Aha, but were they Socialists by activity and philosophy??  
Let me put the question a different way - Can a person who believes that "Greed is good"  also believe at the same time that one should "Love his neighbor as himself"?  
The answer to your question is NO.
Hoping you are not saying all who believe in capitalism & the free market thnik greed is good?

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JG- My feeling is that no matter where you are on the wealth scale, make sure you are spending it as a blessing from God.
Money itself is neutral. Whether it becomes a blessing or a curse is a function of how it is used.
" The blessing of the Lord makes one rich, and He adds no sorrow to it "
Proverbs 10:22

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