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Will_I_Wynn

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I'm surprised you two never heard Trump say the wall would be concrete.  It wasn't semantics.  He said it multiple times.
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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNarrator


Trump looking at them like they were stupid was the best part.


The best part was when he slowed them down to explain they are not into construction and as a result likely may not realize that steel is actually stronger than concrete. 

ehehhehehehehheheheh

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They pick at fly schitt while he takes a big dump on them
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They pick at fly schitt while he takes a big dump on them



Oh man, I'm sorely tempted to drag that epic quote into my sig line. That is very tasty.

Btw how come I can say ass in this forum, but not sh1t? I wish dewey our moderator was still around so I could request some clarification on that issue...

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Will_I_Wynn

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Larry Summers blog on economy. While he doesn’t believe we need to panic over our debt, he does explain how we got here and why we shouldn’t continue to do more harm. Interesting read. Pay particular attention to “how we got here” section of blog.

http://larrysummers.com/2019/01/28/whos-afraid-of-budget-deficits/



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Worst propaganda over last decade...

1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

Will_I_Wynn

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Speaking of debt, it just surpassed $22 trillion.

"@FoxNews: @realDonaldTrump: “When you have $18-$19 trillion in debt, they need someone like me to straighten it out"

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Worst propaganda over last decade...

1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

pabar61

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Interesting article on how bad the CBO did on estimating uninsured from eliminating the individual mandate.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/government-report-reveals-cbo-was-was-scandalously-off-in-obamacare-estimates



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Will_I_Wynn

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Regardless if these actuaries are biased or not, most Americans, including many on the Right, now favor Obamacare so it doesn't really matter anymore.
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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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Originally Posted by pabar61
Interesting article on how bad the CBO did on estimating uninsured from eliminating the individual mandate.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/government-report-reveals-cbo-was-was-scandalously-off-in-obamacare-estimates



The lies were repeated and obvious.  OCare is horrid.  

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Will_I_Wynn

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Only to Obama haters.  The rest of the Country has moved on.
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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pabar61
Interesting article on how bad the CBO did on estimating uninsured from eliminating the individual mandate.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/government-report-reveals-cbo-was-was-scandalously-off-in-obamacare-estimates




"bad" or convenient
Will_I_Wynn

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Not going to look it up but I wouldn't be surprised if these guys were inaccurate about the CBO missing their estimate by a substantial margin. If somebody writes an article, you're free to believe it.  I'll withhold judgment.



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3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

keepinitreal

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"Given the outsized influence that the CBO has on policymaking in Washington, the CBO's misfire on the individual mandate should be a major story."
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Shut up doofus. Not talking to you. 
 
bluedog

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You'd think the Dems would wanna forget about the CBO after the Obamacare lies...........How dumb is that?
Will_I_Wynn

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Despite a $1.5 Trillion tax cut and billions of dollars borrowed, the GDP growth rate failed to reach the 4% prediction of President Trump and came in at 2.9%, same as 2015.  Rightists used to mock President Obama for failing to hit the 3% yearly growth rate during his time as President, and President Trump is now 0 for 2.  He did spike the economy a little with the tax cuts and borrowed money but not enough to hit the 3% mark.  Now they predict a bit of a slowdown.  The Right will find some way to spin this but the Trump promise of 4-5% GDP could qualify for lie of the year if people happen to have the same mindset as Republicans.  I'll look at it as a goal missed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/u-s-economic-growth-in-2018-misses-trumps-3-percent-target-idUSKCN1QH0HO

 

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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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Let me guess...........government shutdown caused the drop. If that's true.......didn't trump cause the shutdown? The wizard can't dodge those numbers. 
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
Will_I_Wynn

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Actually this year was better than last year as one would expect with the tax cuts and borrowed money.  That said, the 4% GDP growth rate promise was close to the "Mexico will pay for the wall" kind of rhetoric.
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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

Will_I_Wynn

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The failure to hit the yearly GDP rate of 3%, which Trump promised, has encouraged the WH to use a different measurement in order to announce 3.1% growth. The only problem with this is their new measurement would have shown Obama over 3% on multiple occasions. The spin is better explained in this article...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-republicans-moved-the-goal-post-on-gdp-2019-03-01

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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

bluedog

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GDP numbers have always been manipulated..........That ain't gonna change.........
Will_I_Wynn

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How do you explain Trump’s failure to hit the 3% GDP level for 2017 and 2018?



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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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Trumps lowest GDP numbers almost got as low as Obama's highest. 

This election is going to be a cake walk.

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Will_I_Wynn

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That isn’t true. Obama had a 5% quarter. Trump hasn’t hit that mark yet despite the fact he promised such a number on a yearly basis.


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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

bluedog

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The GDP number come election-time is what's gonna matter.........
Will_I_Wynn

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Speaking of debt, it just surpassed $22 trillion.




https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years

"The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”



Trade deficit highest in ten years...


It has been evident for months that Trump was not shrinking a trade gap that he calls “unsustainable” and says represents a major transfer of wealth from Americans to foreigners.

The president now begins his reelection drive with a core campaign promise unfulfilled — and with a recent flurry of economic research showing that his embrace of tariffs is damaging the U.S. economy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-promised-to-shrink-the-trade-deficit-instead-it-exploded/2019/03/05/35d3b1e0-3f8f-11e9-a0d3-1210e58a94cf_story.html?utm_term=.44a7a37d9bab


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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

bluedog

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The tariffs are damaging nothing.........They're a nothing-burger, except that they're being used to manipulate the stock-markets...........

The tariffs are hype, hype and hype............
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The tariffs are damaging nothing.........They're a nothing-burger, except that they're being used to manipulate the stock-markets...........

The tariffs are hype, hype and hype............


Blue - understand that Dewey searches the internet all day looking for bad news about this country.  He likes it when bad things happen to this country while Trump is president.  It's his only joy in life.

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bluedog

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Dems are lonely immoral people who hate America..........
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Anybody know where I can hire qualified electricians in a booming market? Seriously, I cannot find qualified electricians even when offering above average pay for their skill set. I hired and fired one guy over a 48 hour period after he showed up at an industrial facility tweaking out. I'm grasping for straws here.  I mean if you live in the Houston area, want to kick your Son or Nephew off the couch and end his love affair with XBox, I have a license to ill. That's how good our economy is. Just showing up to work on time and prepared is 90% of the job skills required. My crews will make or break them and coach them up, or toss them in the dumpster of life. We offer tons of OT pay. WTF is it with Dewey arguing about a down economy? What world are you living in you Farked up Socialist? We have some money to make, businesses to grow, and serious amounts of construction in the pipeline two years out. We are absolutely booming. WTF? Why would you Socialists want to hamper economic growth with your incessant whining and nagging? You bunch of anti American POS Socialists. Stand aside and sit on your ass and whine while we make history you putrid ass wipes. We have a nation and an economy to build here, and Socialists are not included in the management team.
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Note to self, never agree to rewire a huge piece of industrial equipment made by former Axis powers that is older than I am. 

Update, I fixed that sucker. 
Will_I_Wynn

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A couple of years later we can see what tax cuts do to Federal revenue.  What was projected in 2017 is now reduced in 2019.  Tax cuts or no tax cuts revenue increases each year.  But if you want to lower projected revenue, tax cuts will do the job.



https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/reports/52801-june2017outlook.pdf

In June 2017, CBO projected (see page 13 in above) the following revenues and outlays:

2019:  $3.69T rev, $4.38T outlay
2020:  $3.85T rev, $4.63T outlay
2021:  $4.01T rev, $4.89T outlay


https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2019-03/54918-Outlook-3.pdf

In Jan 2019, CBO projects (see page 7 in above) the following revenues and outlays:

2019:  $3.52T rev, $4.41T outlay
2020:  $3.69T rev, $4.59T outlay
2021:  $3.84T rev, $4.81T outlay

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Worst propaganda over last decade...

1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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They really should cut spending.  That would fix our deficit issues.
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