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keepinitreal

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I feel we may be nearing the end of the Old Yeller story with Dewey cast in the lead


Sad but true

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
EarlyGrayce

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dewey foaming at the mouth lately.
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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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How about allowing the states to take care of what they are supposed to do and the federal government do what it is supposed to do.  In that way, and at the state level, politicians will directly be held accountable and can't blame any of their decisions on party lines, etc.  States that can't do right by their citizens will find people and businesses leaving those states.  Effectively, states will be in direct competition for people and federal monies via increased representation for increased population for those things the federal government should do.  My state would be abandoned immediately.  Cali?
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It really shows the level of dishonesty in the right that you will not admit trump has inherited a vastly better  economic situation than Obama did. Basic truths elude you. There is no comparison, yet Obama steadily got us out of the GOP train wreck from Bush. 
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It really shows the level of dishonesty in the right that you will not admit trump has inherited a vastly better  economic situation than Obama did. Basic truths elude you. There is no comparison, yet Obama steadily got us out of the GOP train wreck from Bush. 

Fully admit that odummer got a raw deal economy from GW Bush.  Dems largely created the mortgage crises, which was the major source of economic downturn.

The American economy bounces back.  That is what it does.  The best businesses, best businessmen and best workers in the world. 

Most economists believe obama's policies were largely a wet blanket that kept that economy from coming back in a much shorter time.   Post the initial stimulus, of which the impact, positive vs negative, is still debated.  The Quantitative Easing (printing of money) eroded the dollar, effectively giving the low end of the wage ladder huge cuts in pay.  The never ending parade of regulation and the cost and uncertainty of obamacare was a massive impediment to starting or growing businesses.   You of course will argue otherwise, but most people will see that as disingenuous.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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I do admit you'e never said anything that might remotely be considered slanted. I didn't see any TFH logic in your response however.
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I do admit you'e never said anything that might remotely be considered slanted. I didn't see any TFH logic in your response however.

TFH?

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
keepinitreal

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Tin foil hat
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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It really shows the level of dishonesty in the right that you will not admit trump has inherited a vastly better  economic situation than Obama did. Basic truths elude you. There is no comparison, yet Obama steadily got us out of the GOP train wreck from Bush. 


I wonder Obama would've done if a few months in, the nation was attacked by unknowns, several thousand killed, and a response was required.

I guess he would've dithered along so that it didn't hurt the economy.
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Led from behind - JV team.

The economy is cyclical. His recovery was the slowest of all time. Got going towards the end thanks to the GOP Congress.
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Tin foil hat

KIR to the rescue.
I had no idea. Asked my kid, she had no idea.
Figured it was some dark web sites Fresh frequents. For research purposes of course. Like Pete Townsend and child porn

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Will_I_Wynn

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The tax bill could have lowered the corporate tax rates and reduced the second individual tax rate from 15% to 10%.  Whether income was $85,000 or $785,000, every married couple would have received $2800 in tax relief.  President Trump would have been a hero.  It would have been proof he was looking out for the average worker.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

I'm with both Obama and Trump on congressional authorization for bombing Syria.  Too bad one was giving his word while one was giving us a head fake.


keepinitreal

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Dewy still in his corner with his pencil and paper. That's great of you Bob Cratchit, keep working the numbers till you get your butthurt all out
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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But, the children.
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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

spazsdad

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Can I deduct donations of salve for butthurt Libs? . The savings could offset my health insurance increases
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Will_I_Wynn

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2017/10/22/the-trump-budget-legacy-a-permanent-1-trillion-federal-deficit/#421ef6fa7a65

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

I'm with both Obama and Trump on congressional authorization for bombing Syria.  Too bad one was giving his word while one was giving us a head fake.


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So, a "contributor" wrote this and it is supposed to be factual?  Collender is, among other things, a Democrat Strategist and a member of various university boards including The University of California at Berkeley.   So, what was your point?  BTW, you can google his name and see all of the various articles he has penned attacking Trump.  Then again, you knew all of this.  

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Will_I_Wynn

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"Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."


It's the author's opinion as stated in the piece.  Nobody claimed anything to be factual.  If opinions from either Right or Left are to be disallowed in this forum, then we all must leave.  Any opinion of his worth countering?

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

I'm with both Obama and Trump on congressional authorization for bombing Syria.  Too bad one was giving his word while one was giving us a head fake.


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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
"Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."


It's the author's opinion as stated in the piece.  Nobody claimed anything to be factual.  If opinions from either Right or Left are to be disallowed in this forum, then we all must leave.  Any opinion of his worth countering?

My main refutation is hahahhahahahhhaha.   Stop being so f'ing salty.  Oh the chiruns! Oh the debts!  Ohhh hahahahahahaha.  Zero concern about debt all of odummers timeframe.  Nothing can be cut.  What a laugh.



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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
"Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."


It's the author's opinion as stated in the piece.  Nobody claimed anything to be factual.  If opinions from either Right or Left are to be disallowed in this forum, then we all must leave.  Any opinion of his worth countering?


You made a post that simply had a link to Forbes Magazine.  IMO, the purpose then was to suggest to all that this is Forbes and so, this is rock solid commentary of the budget cuts etc.  I then responded with a post outlining who this person really is and that he has an agenda counter to the Republican Party and President Trump.  Had you provide commentary to your post with the link, it might read, "Dog bites man."  

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keepinitreal

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
"Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."


It's the author's opinion as stated in the piece.  Nobody claimed anything to be factual.  If opinions from either Right or Left are to be disallowed in this forum, then we all must leave.  Any opinion of his worth countering?


It was done here for a whole week and a month before that on this very thread.  You just won't shut up about it through your multiple avenues

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Can I deduct donations of salve for butthurt Libs? . The savings could offset my health insurance increases

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Will_I_Wynn

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I trust those who are interested in reading the article will also read who wrote it and the fact it is his opinion.  Just the same, he takes all the information provided, including CBO scoring, requested defense spending, new tax law, hurricane relief, etc., and presents a case suggesting our deficit will be close to $1 trillion in 2018.  Nobody is required to accept the author's projection and are more than welcome to accept those who say spending in FY2018 might actually go down.  Lots of opinions in this forum and I just posted one which illustrates much of what I've been saying. 
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

I'm with both Obama and Trump on congressional authorization for bombing Syria.  Too bad one was giving his word while one was giving us a head fake.


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You made a post that simply had a link to Forbes Magazine.  IMO, the purpose then was to suggest to all that this is Forbes and so, this is rock solid commentary of the budget cuts etc.  I then responded with a post outlining who this person really is and that he has an agenda counter to the Republican Party and President Trump.  Had you provide commentary to your post with the link, it might read, "Dog bites man."  


Right on target.  Dewey often makes claims or posts that have an absolute insinuation, if not outright claim, and then acts offended when he's called out on it.  He is the most dishonest person in this forum and has been for a long time.  Witness his name change.  Nuff said.

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I trust those who are interested in reading the article will also read who wrote it and the fact it is his opinion.  Just the same, he takes all the information provided, including CBO scoring, requested defense spending, new tax law, hurricane relief, etc., and presents a case suggesting our deficit will be close to $1 trillion in 2018.  Nobody is required to accept the author's projection and are more than welcome to accept those who say spending in FY2018 might actually go down.  Lots of opinions in this forum and I just posted one which illustrates much of what I've been saying. 


You suggested the blue wall couldn't be broken yet you were horribly wrong.

You should try rooting for America for a change.

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keepinitreal

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  Lots of opinions in this forum and I just posted one which illustrates much of what I've been saying.   
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Exactly, for a month now, we know this and you've made your predictions known on 2 different threads, now we'll wait

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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whoa's us.  Nothing can be cut.  That is just how it is.
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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Require a balanced budget amendment, and an end to base line budgeting. Base line budgeting is how we got here. Then lets cut an additional 1% of projected spending for 10 consecutive years. If my limited math skills are correct, a 1% cut on a 4 trillion dollar budget would be 40 billion for a year. Assume 3-4% inflation per year. Assume further that this would apply to both discretionary and non discretionary spending.

We should demand that SS and Medicare programs be reverted to their original intent. Support of widows, and orphans. Everyone else is on their own, and will have to learn how to survive as an independent responsible individual or family unit. Of course we take care of the least of us, the mentally and physically handicapped, that's commanded of us. A very small public safety net, backed up by charitable organizations. Phase out SS, and allow private investment for coming generations.

Reform SS and Medicare, and eliminate the welfare programs that have been added to, and are bankrupting these programs. Nobody deserves any "financial security" at the expense of their neighbors labor. I will gladly give your family food, shelter, clothing, and security if your house burns down. However, I shouldn't be required to pay for your family on a lifelong basis.

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New CBO projection is out.  One trillion dollar deficits coming sooner than expected. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/federal-deficit-tax-cuts-spending-trump.html

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

I'm with both Obama and Trump on congressional authorization for bombing Syria.  Too bad one was giving his word while one was giving us a head fake.


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Nothing in your link says deficits are coming “sooner than expected”
They are basing it, once again, on Obama’s historically anemic growth rates, sub 2%, that we have already far surpassed.
They quote Schumer and Pelosi so you can basically flush the whole article.
That all you got today after studying your talking points all weekend? Pathetic as usual

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