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mikec

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Anybody swapped engines in their car before?

I bought the kid a Jeep a few years back.  About 6 months ago, I was told it needed a new engine, and I need to stop driving it before it seized.  I got two other opinions - same thing.

I do almost everything myself.  Estimates are $2400 labor to get this done.  I am not feeling that generous.

I got the service manual, and it doesn't look too hard.  Look like most things with cars - just a whole lotta wrenching.

I've done about everything else but pull an engine.  If I do it, then the car is mine, so I may keep it and do it over Thanksgiving break.  Maybe take Mon-Weds off, and plan 3 days to do it over the 9 days I'd have off.

Anybody done it - is it as straightforward as it seems?
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BTW - of course, if I do the engine, the next things are a winch, new coils, lift, big ole honker all terrain tires, transmission cooler, maybe some other stuff.

If I'm having a Jeep, it's gonna get rednecked.
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I pulled one and had it bored out and had the pistons and rings replaced then I re installed it in a 72 Ford truck. The problem isn't the motor pull and reinstall, it's all the extra brackets, screws, plastic attachments, associated equipment, and electrical attached to the motor. The older the vehicle, the less crap on it. New motor mounts are a good idea too. You can buy a crate motor and give it a shot, but I fear you are going to take longer than you think. You will have busted knuckles and a sore throat from cursing. If you go this route, you should give us a pic of the small box of extra leftover nuts, bolts, washers, and plastic clips you will have when the job is completed. You won't have a clue where they go.
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Haha - I'll post the pic
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Get a engine lift, you are going to need it.  Anytime you detach something substantial like transmission mounts, or etc., make dang sure that you have that fully supported.  Take time to build up support if it is needed.  Things happen fast, and you would hate to save $500 and lose a finger in the process.

Watch 100s of videos on youtube.  They walk you through jeep motor replacement.  They will drop hints and crap you always miss. You just have to watch enough of them before you get started.  After the first 10 or 12 just go through the mundanes using your arrow keys, only looking for the tips.

I like this guy.  He drinks a beer while swapping a motor, so you know he knows what he is doing.   He also shows you how to install the motor and not have any left over parts.

Definitely start with a crate motor.   Putting a whole motor together and doing the install is insane. 

Get a friend signed up for the day you are hoisting the motor in.  Someone that is mechanical and patient.  Definitely helps to have 2.  

Take loads and loads and loads of pictures as you remove the old engine.  







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First but yourself an oem service manual because you will need it. If it is newer than about 1995 you better have an obd reader. Normally easier to pull engine and transmission, but dependent on vehicle. I'm not familiar with Jeep's. Have at least 2 friends, one of which has replaced a motor before. Give yourself 2 days with a crate motor, a week for a rebuild if the heads need no rework. Follow the vendor instructions when starting the new motor and break-in. Use the oil/weight they recommend. Do not use synthetic oil till at least 2000 miles (3rd) oil change. Pics, pics and more pics. Better to have a laptop with WiFi close by. Videos and pics suck on a phone! Get a rewards card from you favorite auto parts store, it will payoff. Label and Ziploc bag all parts as you take them off, store them in order you take them off (good wife or 2nd friend job). If you have the time, replace all mounting bolts with new grade equivalent bolts. Since you have everything off, woulld not be a bad time to replace the sensors. Good luck ....oops forgot, have favorite beverages available for consumption and gift when the swap is complete.... Not before. Lots more to this effort depending on the motor you buy.
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Thanks gents. If i decide to do it, i'll keep you posted.
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Well, I crashed my BMW about 2 months ago after having a little medical episode while cruising up the freeway.  I was pulling off the road because I knew something had gone screwy inside, but I don't remember the last lane change, do remember the airbag exploding in my face, and then woke up in a wagon a little bit later with EMT's screaming at me, asking me all sorts of questions. 

I ended up running into a guardrail abutment, which pretty much wasted the car.  I was cut up and bruised all over (thankfully not on the moneymaker - beauty is in tact), but the car did it's job for sure by keeping me from getting too broken up. My car is off to Valhalla in a salvage yard.

So, I was gonna put the engine in the old Jeep after all, but it was too much time and effort right now (and I was moving a little slow there for awhile).

So, I bought a used Jeep instead.  Had it in snow and ice a week ago in Kentucky, and it handled it very well.  I have a lift kit on the Christmas wish list.  If I don't get it, which I won't, I'll buy it in late January and install it.  Then some tires and skid plates, and we'll be onto something.  Probably have to do some sort of winch thing too. 

My kids told me no rebel flag stickers, or "South is gonna rise again" bumper stickers - they are straight up funsuckers.

The wife and I did some hikes a few months ago in National Forest land in the mountains, and plan to do more.  It sure would've been nice to have this Jeep then - those old logging roads were not meant for yuppie mobiles with 2 inch ground clearance.

I might still make a project out of the old one, but for now, I plan to use the engine fund to gussy up this one a bit.

Might be kinda fun.  Not too many mods you can do to a turbo charged BMW, whereas there are websites aplenty offering to relieve me of my paycheck on Jeep mods.
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Good grief son, glad you survived to tell us that story.  You were missed, that other Georgia resident that we have here is just a grumpy old fart who sucks all of the oxygen out of the room.  Glad you're ok Mike
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Good grief son, glad you survived to tell us that story.  You were missed, that other Georgia resident that we have here is just a grumpy old fart who sucks all of the oxygen out of the room.  Glad you're ok Mike


Thanks sir.

I know a few folks who'd tag me with that description above.
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Glad you survived. We need your input. I’ve heard it said before, any day above ground is a good one.
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Glad you’re back Mike - you were missed
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Thanks fellas. Luckily i suppose, i blacked out just prior, and sorta slept through the whole thing.

The aftermath was a pain, but it's in the rearview now.

As my told me - that was my third near-deather. I may have used them all up now.
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You might be part cat, but probably best not to press the luck.
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Scary and funny commentary. Btw, Jeep is America's worst most loved vehicle in history. Glad you are ok.🤗
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Scary and funny commentary. Btw, Jeep is America's worst most loved vehicle in history. Glad you are ok.🤗




Ha ain't that the truth. Had an '85 CJ7 bought new off the Orange County Jeep lot. Loved that thing, but dang was it problematic. The manual tranny grinding, the skittish steering.

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Man I had a CJ7. It was such a pig. It would fuel starve going up any appreciable hill.
I have a JK now and love it other than the horrific gas mileage and the pathetic payload.

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I picked up a KK.  2011 with 37k miles.  Looks new inside and out.  Factory tow package for 5k towing capacity, selectrac ii transfer case, and every luxury possible.

I towed a trailer 450 miles, and used about 42 gallons of gas doing it.  On the return trip, used half that.  But, the 4WD Auto was nice as I was in snow, and some decent ice, for about 200 miles.

I parked next to a Rubicon today.  I think he had about 4-6 inches more clearance than I did.  The 2.5 inch springs lift I'll do after New Year's will help, then some new tires maybe summer/fall will get me a little more.  

I opted for the KK because the JK can't tow bumpus, and I needed a little tow capability to go with the other stuff.

Got it pretty cheap, so hoping to customize it a bit.  So far, I like it more than I expected to.  If I could figure out how to transfer my phonebook to the stupid Uconnect, I'd love it.

The Garmin nav system is meh, but at least it's there I guess.  Maybe a system update will help it out some.
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I had a jeep without a hardtop, and I will never do that again. The coolest Jeep I ever saw was the old Jeep pickup trucks. Saw some variants of the Commando, but the coolest was the pickup. A truck that is a jeep. AC and heat, and a truck bed 4X4. The only thing close was an old  Toyota 4x4, and they couldn't handle the big tires. I have seen a few old Ford Broncos that were tricked out, and they were nice, but high end projects. Cheapest beater ranch jeep is the Sumeria.
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My buddy had this Honcho with same paint job.  I don't remember it being a very dependable rig.





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http://www.duncanimports.com/mini-truck-comparisons.htm

You can buy these kind of mini trucks off of Alibaba, but some make you buy a container unit or two, and the parts may be hard to come by. There used to be a company near Columbus, TX that specialized in adding lift kits, tires, high rig hunting racks and camo on these kind of trucks.

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https://www.ts-export.com/page.php?page=about_4wd_mini_trucks
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http://weatherfordminitrucks.com/trucks-and-customers.html
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https://www.eatonminitrucks.com/
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http://www.americasminitruckcenter.com/custom-hunting-trucks.php
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Or, just buy a beat up 4X4 F250 that can't pass emissions test anymore and enjoy the ride. Our last deer lease vehicle came with a rusty .22 hanging in the gun rack. I don't know if it was ever used or taken out of the gun rack, and when it bit the dust 5 years later, the .22 rifle was part of the sale. We have a local guy in the Hill Country, with some pretty good mechanical knowledge, and he will make service calls to the ranch when we need a hand, do a little redneck magic, and viola, the desecrated beast with a tank full of water and a carburetor will live another year. Adding to the local economy with a few hundred bucks cash is of some benefit as well. At some point in your life, enjoying a weekend of hunting without having to crawl underneath a vehicle and drop a transmission, or doing a brake job is worth the money. I like being the old guy that can afford to do that. Please chime in if you don't enjoy being able to do the same.
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