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lurker123

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Before Galati I think only one pitcher from Long island and that was going back 12 years.  TruDat well done . a lesson learned from last year.


Steelman, I only pointed out pitchers because those are the big names, but Hofstra has relied on Long Island kids staying "home" not just at the pitching position.

It is a shame that a team like Towson isn't scheduling a single P5 team. Very weak move. I don't know why anyone would want to play there if they continue to schedule this way. Even if you can't beat a team like Alabama, I'm willing to bet that the kids who were on the 2017 team remember playing them in a 2-4 loss competitively more than any other game in their careers.
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Steelman, I only pointed out pitchers because those are the big names, but Hofstra has relied on Long Island kids staying "home" not just at the pitching position.

It is a shame that a team like Towson isn't scheduling a single P5 team. Very weak move. I don't know why anyone would want to play there if they continue to schedule this way. Even if you can't beat a team like Alabama, I'm willing to bet that the kids who were on the 2017 team remember playing them in a 2-4 loss competitively more than any other game in their careers.


Agreed 100%. And I would imagine Towson is hoping to be a top half team again this year, you'd think they'd want a tougher OOC schedule to help them win some close conference games. Maybe not

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It is a shame that a team like Towson isn't scheduling a single P5 team. Very weak move. I don't know why anyone would want to play there if they continue to schedule this way. Even if you can't beat a team like Alabama, I'm willing to bet that the kids who were on the 2017 team remember playing them in a 2-4 loss competitively more than any other game in their careers.


I defintely remember it well! my Kid went Yard against Bama and Towson held a lead into to 5th.... it was nice to see them compete. in 2015 they played Georgia as welll and that was another game Brook & I talk about... All of these games were at Hosted Tournaments, not that they were OOC Scheduled by themselves... as a West Coast parent we always hoped they would come to Mary Nutter or the Kajikawa Classic... but didnt happen, 1 rain soaked week in 4 years at St Mary's in Norther, CA.

But we still had a great experience at Towson and others are as well! they won't struggle to get good kids to play there. are they going to get Flo topp 100's? Not likely, but they will get solid kids who may surprise. 


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Lurker other than Galati the best pitchers wwe had were Kayleigh Lotti and Adriene Clarke. Both were Before Olivia and had impressive resumes. Lotti over 900 career Ks and Adriene Clarke I believe still has the record for most consecutive scoreless innings in the NCAA tournament for Hofstra. What Hofstra has relied on is players from the northeast and others that have been overlooked by the P5 schools. AS Bill Edwards says "he recruits orphans".
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Towson, doesn't even travel to good places. The goal there is to pile up wins and keep the job. As I understand it Towson is a fine school in a great location. There is no reason other than not being interested in doing the requisite work in recruiting, that they shouldn't be able to get top players and compete with Hofstra and JMU. They had their really once in a blue moon top hitting team the last two or three years and that team is now gone. Back to mediocrity.
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The Peter Principle may be in play here. Beating up on the kids at Hofstra works in the CAA. The SEC caliber kids don't want that. We'll see if she has exceeded her level of competence.


Rumor mill is that the NCAA has a rep monitoring Mizzou softball?
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Rumor mill is that the NCAA has a rep monitoring Mizzou softball?


I trust the rumor mill on this site about as far as I can toss can toss cletus t judd!
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I defintely remember it well! my Kid went Yard against Bama and Towson held a lead into to 5th.... it was nice to see them compete. in 2015 they played Georgia as welll and that was another game Brook & I talk about... All of these games were at Hosted Tournaments, not that they were OOC Scheduled by themselves... as a West Coast parent we always hoped they would come to Mary Nutter or the Kajikawa Classic... but didnt happen, 1 rain soaked week in 4 years at St Mary's in Norther, CA.

But we still had a great experience at Towson and others are as well! they won't struggle to get good kids to play there. are they going to get Flo topp 100's? Not likely, but they will get solid kids who may surprise. 

But will they ever recruit effective pitching?  I think the last truly effective one was Texan Shannon Johnson a decade ago.


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Recruiting top flight pitching is very difficult. But if you get one, or two, your whole team can be entirely different. With the hitting Towson had the last two years, a mid 1-2 ERA would have gotten them in the NCAA tournament and possibly to a Super Regional. I checked the stats and over the years their schedule has been primarily against middle of the road teams, where they are guaranteed 25 wins before factoring in the CAA. I don't know how their coach recruits but I know that to get the studs, you have to give them a schedule where they feel they will be in the prime time. You have to put yourself out there and act like you belong and Towson doesn't do that. Otherwise you will get what are the leftovers, who may have decent stats in those 25 wins against lesser opponents.
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Recruiting top flight pitching is very difficult. But if you get one, or two, your whole team can be entirely different. With the hitting Towson had the last two years, a mid 1-2 ERA would have gotten them in the NCAA tournament and possibly to a Super Regional. I checked the stats and over the years their schedule has been primarily against middle of the road teams, where they are guaranteed 25 wins before factoring in the CAA. I don't know how their coach recruits but I know that to get the studs, you have to give them a schedule where they feel they will be in the prime time. You have to put yourself out there and act like you belong and Towson doesn't do that. Otherwise you will get what are the leftovers, who may have decent stats in those 25 wins against lesser opponents.


Couldn't agree more.

Middle of the road is being kind to the teams on the Towson schedule.

A legit pitcher definitely wants at least the opportunity to pitch against an ACC, SEC or Big 10 team two to three times a season. Towson should at least be trying to schedule UMD, Rutgers, UVA, VaTech, Longwood, Liberty each season. Elon, CofC and UNCW all do this to a certain degree.
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lurker123, you are right. There are a lot of low level teams. The program is stale.
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If you want to see a weak schedule, Delaware might have the weakest of all.
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If you want to see a weak schedule, Delaware might have the weakest of all.


At least they play UVA.
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To start a discussion - my prediction for the 2019 regular season CAA standings:

1. James Madison
2. UNCW
3. Hofstra
4. Charleston
5. Towson
6. Elon
7. Delaware
8. Drexel



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I have a question for CAA fans, why isn't Elon much better than they are?  They have a facility that is not only among the best mid-major facilities anywhere but one that could rival what many P5 programs offer.  Tenured coach?  Recruits getting lost trying to find the campus?  Anything?
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I'd move Drexel to 5 and slot the rest down.
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I'd move Drexel to 5 and slot the rest down.


Interesting, any particular reason why, or just the current girls getting better?
Admittedly, I have much more experience with the top half than the bottom.

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I'd put my order at:

1. JMU
2. UNCW
3. Charleston
4. Elon
5. Hofstra
6. Towson
7. Drexel
8. Delaware

Would be quite a shake up, but I don't have faith in the changes made at Hofstra and don't see how Towson can make up for the lost production.
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I have a question for CAA fans, why isn't Elon much better than they are?  They have a facility that is not only among the best mid-major facilities anywhere but one that could rival what many P5 programs offer.  Tenured coach?  Recruits getting lost trying to find the campus?  Anything?


Winning and splitting games with low level teams does not prepare a team to fight and show determination come Conference game time let alone a double elimination tournament. Coaches and recruiting play into that as well. Coaches ability to prepare a team of the talent they have. 

Their schedule is marginally better this year than last I believe, so I wouldn't be surprised if they win a few more conference games than 2018. I think Elon has a good shot of being one of the 5 in the tournament this year. 
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Couldn't agree more.

Middle of the road is being kind to the teams on the Towson schedule.

A legit pitcher definitely wants at least the opportunity to pitch against an ACC, SEC or Big 10 team two to three times a season. Towson should at least be trying to schedule UMD, Rutgers, UVA, VaTech, Longwood, Liberty each season. Elon, CofC and UNCW all do this to a certain degree.


just peeked at that schedule, middle of the road IS very generous.
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Steelman, I only pointed out pitchers because those are the big names, but Hofstra has relied on Long Island kids staying "home" not just at the pitching position.

It is a shame that a team like Towson isn't scheduling a single P5 team. Very weak move. I don't know why anyone would want to play there if they continue to schedule this way. Even if you can't beat a team like Alabama, I'm willing to bet that the kids who were on the 2017 team remember playing them in a 2-4 loss competitively more than any other game in their careers.


Sadly I don't think 'doing research' is something recruited players and their families do a great job of. Being 'wanted' and being able to wear gear is a big motivation for a large percentage of recruitable players out there. Leads to disgruntled players and parents year after year at lots of programs around the country. 
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A month away from starting up! I'm excited to see what materializes in the CAA this season
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Drexel is improving and I know a parent who has some insight. Towson has always taken the low road when scheduling out of conference games. It assures at least 30 win seasons and looks good on paper. They lost their top players and pitcher and players of the caliber they lost, only come around their way very seldom.
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Winning and splitting games with low level teams does not prepare a team to fight and show determination come Conference game time let alone a double elimination tournament. Coaches and recruiting play into that as well. Coaches ability to prepare a team of the talent they have. 

Their schedule is marginally better this year than last I believe, so I wouldn't be surprised if they win a few more conference games than 2018. I think Elon has a good shot of being one of the 5 in the tournament this year. 


What Tournament?
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What Tournament?


The CAA Conference Tournament...Considering the other teams...it'll turn into 5 teams fighting for the last 3 spots as usual. I think Elon has a good shot to be one of the remaining 3. My opinion only.
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Justin's World Prediction.... 

http://www.justinsworldofsoftball.com/2019-conference-forecasts/colonial-athletic-association


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The article didn't explain why Towson is the team to watch. They lost more than they have coming in. They will be no better than 5th.
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Justin's World Prediction.... 

http://www.justinsworldofsoftball.com/2019-conference-forecasts/colonial-athletic-association



Interesting takes there... Megan Good not being listed as a player OR pitcher of year is very intriguing. I would say if another Duke besides Good wins CAA Pitcher or Player of Year, the rest of the conference is in TROUBLE.

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She will be both. Whoever wrote this nonsense is ill informed.
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She will be both. Whoever wrote this nonsense is ill informed.


Correct. If healthy (and that appears to be the case) Megan is literally and figuratively head and shoulders above every other play in this league, whether in the circle or not.  

And, with Megan healthy, league play will be a cakewalk for this team. Heck, Loren may have the best three pitchers in the league along with at least 5 of the 8 best position players.

Looking forward to seeing them play in Clearwater next month.
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