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TruDat

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Maryland hosted the ACC tournament a few years back and didn't qualify for it. That coach is gone.
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Dukedog understand why you want to to host every year. But if it is by location only then Hofstra would never host again. If you were coach of Hofstra would you accept that. For that matter if every CAA tournament was based solely on location then Hofstra and Northeastern have  no business in the CAA as do the southern most teams. I say rotate it  every two years.
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Really???? I think CofC, Hofstra and Elon would all be capable of hosting it based on facilities. Every year Harrisonburg has hosted I feel like there have been weather issues.


You've obviously never been to Hempstead in May! [wink]  Weather at that time of the year pretty much anywhere on the east coast is going to be luck of the draw.

That being said, Hofstra has hosted it plenty and they do a fine job. Charleston could obviously host it as well with a nice facility in a beautiful city. I haven't seen the new Towson facility or to Elon's either but it sounds like they should be up to par as well. The key is not having team have to make plans and travel at the last minute. The league really should have gone to a predetermined site years ago, but I'm glad they are doing it now.
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Weather forced Hofstra's fall games against Adelphi and LIU Brooklyn to tomorrow at Adelphi instead of today at Bill Edwards Stadium. Should be interesting to see how they match up with Adelphi, the Panthers have made it to WCWS the past two years, so they're some of the best D2 competition around, plus Coach Nasti and Coach Sadeh are both branches off the Bill Edwards tree so they're very familiar with HU'S style of play.
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What is HU's style of play?
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Larissa Anderson and Mickey Dean named 4th and 5th Vice Presidents of the NFCA https://nfca.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7118:tennessee-s-karen-weekly-named-incoming-nfca-president-board-of-directors-announces-recent-additions&catid=284&Itemid=149
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What is HU7's style of play?


Defense, pitching, pitching, pitching... take advantage of other pitchers mistakes, n did I say pitching?
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That's not a style of play. Every team wants pitching and defense. When they don't have pitching, like last year what do they do, lose? How does their style of play differ from JMU who has pitching and defense?
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I will only speak to the BE era as that is what i have seen, The style of play is deciplined and regimented, more so than most, pitches called from the dugout with no shake offs. Every aspect of the game is scripted with little free thinking n practices are the same. IT was a system that worked for years. There is a new era and I cannot speak to that as I can no longer watch the practices, games and camps. I can only hope the tradition continues and coach Anderson continues to find and train those hidden eastern nuggets.
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I am always trying to learn. I don't understand how you "script" a softball game. Thinking on your feet is really what makes for better players. The ball bounces different ways all the time.
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Well; this is sort of funny. I have the greatest respect for Bill Edwards and what he built at Hofstra but let's be honest.  It's much easier to coach if you have the better pitcher in 90% of the games on your schedule. To his absolute credit Bill had that during much the last decade he coached.  When he faced an opponent with an equal of better person in the circle his record was about .500.  That's the way our game works. Great pitchers make hall of fame coaches (or visa-versa) [confused]

I must comment on "not shake off any pitches".  Bad, Bad, Bad. Pitchers need to throw pitches that they believe in at that moment.  Coaches who have no a shake-off rule are simply too lazy to create shake-off rules that allow the pitcher some freedom but work within the scouting report.  
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Bill Edwards is definitely disciplined, but I wouldn't call him regimented. I don't pretend to talk for him, but he stresses a player's "inner clock" to decide the next play. His direct comment is "everything on defense is determined by the ball's speed and direction and any action is predicated on that. There is a great amount of freedom to play the position and sometimes there is not just 1 way to approach it. He well knows there can't be a preset rule for every eventuality, with a player being required to memorize it........and hundreds more. He is about playing "The Game" and stresses a playground approach. After working several days with Hofstra, I actually removed a lot of rules from our play and gave our players more freedom to make decisions. We discuss situations that cause confusion and work out an answer together. By being involved in the situational process, they are learning to play the game, not memorizing it.
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I must comment on "not shake off any pitches".  Bad, Bad, Bad. Pitchers need to throw pitches that they believe in at that moment.  Coaches who have no a shake-off rule are simply too lazy to create shake-off rules that allow the pitcher some freedom but work within the scouting report.  


Shouldn't coaches only call pitches that the Pitchers believe in, or shouldn't pitchers believe in every pitch they are going to throw by the time they get to college?

Are the pitchers going to reset their defense after they shake off the pitch?  Are the pitchers spending enough time studying spray charts or batters tendencies to know what is the best pitch to throw in that situation?  Is the pitcher aware of what the batter did on the previous at bat etc?

If you can say yes to all these then yes shake off the coach...If not throw the pitch that was called.

I know you are a JMU fan...watch the last game against LSU...most the balls they hit hard we were able to defend bc of defense positioning...most of LSU hits that game were on mis hits, its hard to prepare your defense for those.
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I must comment on "not shake off any pitches".  Bad, Bad, Bad. Pitchers need to throw pitches that they believe in at that moment.  Coaches who have no a shake-off rule are simply too lazy to create shake-off rules that allow the pitcher some freedom but work within the scouting report.  


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NCexile understand your having the better pitcher works most of the time. Sometimes though it is the coaching. go back to the 2015 season. Hofstra beat JMUs two all-American pitchers with two transfer retreads. Morgan lashley who you questioned how well she would do in the CAA after being in the inferior Patriot league and Taylor Pirone who was buried in Fordhams bullpen.l They simply outpitched Ford and Good that year in the CAA tourney. Does that make Larissa Anderson better than Mickey Dean, of course not.
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Shouldn't coaches only call pitches that the Pitchers believe in, or shouldn't pitchers believe in every pitch they are going to throw by the time they get to college?

Are the pitchers going to reset their defense after they shake off the pitch?  Are the pitchers spending enough time studying spray charts or batters tendencies to know what is the best pitch to throw in that situation?  Is the pitcher aware of what the batter did on the previous at bat etc?

If you can say yes to all these then yes shake off the coach...If not throw the pitch that was called.

I know you are a JMU fan...watch the last game against LSU...most the balls they hit hard we were able to defend bc of defense positioning...most of LSU hits that game were on mis hits, its hard to prepare your defense for those.


Generally the Pitching coach, catcher and pitcher have a conference after their defensive part of the inning. They should be talking what's working and not. If the pitcher isn't feeling good with a pitch then she should speak up. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't  call it from then on, especially if the catcher says it's working great. Sometimes you just have to do what's uncomfortable.

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NCexile understand your having the better pitcher works most of the time. Sometimes though it is the coaching. go back to the 2015 season. Hofstra beat JMUs two all-American pitchers with two transfer retreads. Morgan lashley who you questioned how well she would do in the CAA after being in the inferior Patriot league and Taylor Pirone who was buried in Fordhams bullpen.l They simply outpitched Ford and Good that year in the CAA tourney. Does that make Larissa Anderson better than Mickey Dean, of course not.


Yep, I was dead wrong on Lashley and Pirone did a great job. My guess is Fordham's coaches simply refused to recognize her strengths and allow her to use them. However, I think this was not so much them out pitching Ford and Good but rather the Dukes hitters failing to adjust to the very strategic 'soft-stuff' that HU threw. It was part of Mickey's girls needing to 'grow up' a bit.  They clearly did in '16.
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NCexile understand your having the better pitcher works most of the time. Sometimes though it is the coaching. go back to the 2015 season. Hofstra beat JMUs two all-American pitchers with two transfer retreads. Morgan lashley who you questioned how well she would do in the CAA after being in the inferior Patriot league and Taylor Pirone who was buried in Fordhams bullpen.l They simply outpitched Ford and Good that year in the CAA tourney. Does that make Larissa Anderson better than Mickey Dean, of course not.


The two Hofsta pitchers did an awesome job in the 2015 CAA tourney...but not real sure they out pitched them...I think it was a total effort by Hofstra...if memory serves me right JMU was leading in the 7th with no one on and two outs and JMU had a fielding error that would have ended the game...The next batter beat out a ground ball back to the pitcher (probably should have been another error).  Then the Bailey girl for Hofstra hit a 3 run homer...all 3 runs being unearned of course....JMU had 10 hits in that ball game compared to 7 for Hofstra...That error by JMU and homer by Hofstra changed the series for sure..
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The two Hofsta pitchers did an awesome job in the 2015 CAA tourney...but not real sure they out pitched them...I think it was a total effort by Hofstra...if memory serves me right JMU was leading in the 7th with no one on and two outs and JMU had a fielding error that would have ended the game...The next batter beat out a ground ball back to the pitcher (probably should have been another error).  Then the Bailey girl for Hofstra hit a 3 run homer...all 3 runs being unearned of course....JMU had 10 hits in that ball game compared to 7 for Hofstra...That error by JMU and homer by Hofstra changed the series for sure..


That title winning game was actually a 2-1 win for Hofstra. That the day where JMU and Hofstra split the day, JMU chased Lashley pretty earlier hitting back-to-back home runs, and Pirone pitched most of the first game in relief and then started the second game. HU went up 2-0 in the second game, and Pirone gave up a run in the 5th inning, so Lashley came in to relieve her and essentially shut every JMU batter down, they all struck out or almost all did.
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Just took a peek at the Towson recruiting class. Not sure it was a good one.
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Hofstra announced its recruiting class today. Kimberley Wert us supposed to be the prize of the class.
http://gohofstra.com/news/2016/11/21/softball-sb-hofstra-signs-five-to-national-letters-of-intent.aspx
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Just took a peek at the Towson recruiting class. Not sure it was a good one.


Its a good Class, small but good... Theis Younger sister is a beast and has played on the OC Batbusters for the last few years... she will be a great addition to the team... the other West Coast player ive seen this summer and she is a solid pitcher that has played for a great organization for a long time... but as always, time will tell! [smile]
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I don't know. A high school pitcher with a pretty high ERA doesn't sound exciting.
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Towson announces 2017 Schedule! Game 2 & 3 of the season against Alabama! lets get it started already!

http://towsontigers.com/news/2016/12/1/softball-announces-loaded-2017-schedule.aspx
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Hofstra announced their inaugural First Pitch Dinner. Seems like a great night, highlighted by special keynote speaker Sue Enquist and the retiring of 3 special players' jerseys; Ashley Lane, Kayleigh Lotti, and Olivia Galati. https://www.facebook.com/hofstrasoftball/posts/400820260251180
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Damn would be there but its the wifes birthday.
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Seems pretty far off where I would have them... I know they lost a ton with Jailyn & Erica Leaving... but #31? that's a bit much I think with Megan still there... 

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14021
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Thoughts? https://www.d1softballnews.com/caa-conference-preview-2017/

CAA CONFERENCE PREVIEW

The Favorite: James Madison Dukes

The Darkhorse: Hofstra Pride

 

PROJECTED ORDER OF FINISH IN 2017:

Team2016 Overall Record2016 Conf. Record
James Madison (11)50-618-1
Towson37-1711-8
Charleston35-2311-9
Hofstra24-228-10
Delaware30-219-9
UNCW29-218-10
Elon26-259-8
Drexel20-350-19

Number in () indicates national ranking at the end of last season.  Blue indicates 2016 NCAA Tournament Teams.

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My adjustments to the list. Delaware will be 7th.  Their number 1 pitcher quit and their number 2 graduated. Towson will finish third and Hofstra 2nd. That's my take.
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Seems pretty far off where I would have them... I know they lost a ton with Jailyn & Erica Leaving... but #31? that's a bit much I think with Megan still there... 

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14021


Impossible to replace JJ and Erica...but my guess is JMU may do a little better than 31...

JMU nor most teams outside of the top sec or pac 12 schools will ever have the 1/2 punch of Ford and Good..But JMU has a chance to have a quality #2 pitcher this season with Oddici Alexander...She throws hard enough and can move the ball a little.  

Good is also in a different role this year...Although she has done great and pitched her share of big games, Ford did most the heavy lifting the last 2 years.

If JMU gets the Megan Good that showed up vs LSU last year the skies the limit for them...Of course she was played like she was from another planet that weekend.
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