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outofzone

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My comment about race was bc the poster obviously knows Odicci and he made the comment about great athlete but not any different than her travel days...Then decide to pick her apart with her pitching. So just say great athlete as to be stereotypical...So I feel there is more to the story...

Yes she is a fine athlete but that doesn't mean she can't be a better pitcher than an athlete as I believe she is..

As far as supporting the athlete that is what I believe I was doing as I have supported Odicci in many ways in the past.


KYBandit, I applaud & respect your position in regards to Ms Alexander. I only hope my daughter can earn the same loyalty when she enters school this September. 

I'm pulling for her as much as you & every other JMU fan. 

That said, I stand by my observations and will most likely have more as the season progresses. 

How you inject race into the topic defies logic...that's where there is more to the story.
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Tonights Towson/UNC Chapel will be on the ACC Network if anyone is interested... 5PM EST First Pitch... 
http://es.pn/2mtF5Fm 

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Honestly, the league should just retire this award for the season. If she's healthy and she pitches she wins it if there's an honest assessment:

http://jmusports.com/news/2017/2/28/softball-good-earns-third-consecutive-caa-pitcher-of-the-week-honor.aspx
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Other observations off the weekend:

UNCW continues to look like the league's most improved team, albeit against very  weak competition.  Tough to know how this improvement will translate to league play. 

I'm not sold yet of C of C's pitching given the BB/K ratio of the staff.  

No real signs of life on Long Island yet as neither team ERA nor batting average  suggest a Pride resurgence.
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No real signs of life on Long Island yet as neither team ERA nor batting average  suggest a Pride resurgence.


Irons is still a work in progress, but Sarah Cornell already showed a lot of improvement from last weekend. There's a good reason she was the rookie of the week. She's now 5-0 on the season, including 3-0 this past weekend against decent completion, Rutgers, FIU (who is receiving votes in the polls, and she shut them out), and Boston College. Over those 3 games, her ERA was .64, and she only allowed 9 hits in those 22 innings.
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What happened to the Grimm girl at Hofstra?
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Madison Grimm struggled mightily last year. She walked more than she struck out. After watching her pitch she was clearly not a D1 pitcher. Hofstra missed on this one.
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Probably for the better that she's not on the team. She wouldn't have gotten any playing time any, and that opened up a spot for one of the many transfers on the team this year. Scarpato was the pitcher last year with the best ERA, and she's not even expected to pitch a single inning this year, she's now an outfielder. If she's not pitching, have to assume that Grimm wouldn't be either.
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JMU wins twice today @ Disney. Highlight is Megan Good tossing a no-no versus a good South Alabama team. Pitcher of the Week for the fourth consecutive week?
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JMU wins twice today @ Disney. Highlight is Megan Good tossing a no-no versus a good South Alabama team. Pitcher of the Week for the fourth consecutive week?


she is insane to watch... if she gets it again it's only because she deserves it!

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I don't understand why Good wasn't at least invited to compete for a spot on one of the U.S. National Teams.  Are there really several demonstrably better pitchers on those teams?
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Good follows yesterday's no-no with a 1-hitter (with 10K's) versus BC today.  JMU only scores one run pointing to the Dukes' weakness right now.  Sometimes the offense doesn't show up. Won't matter much, though, when Megan's in the circle.
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Yeah sometimes the offense doesn't show up, but it is also there fourth straight weekend on the road (and they haven't been short trips - all by bus). My guess is once they get back to Veterans Memorial, which is already smallish and seems to play even smaller and they get into conference play, the offense will pick up.

I also don't know anything about that BC pitcher, here stats look decent, but if you look at the box score play-by-play, she appeared to be pitching ahead in the count a lot. Maybe she was really on today. Maybe the JMU hitters were really impatient. Maybe the ump had a big zone.

You could be right that the offense not showing up is what does them in come late May, but I'd like to see what happens as the weather warms up and they get to start playing at home.
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Nice day in Farmville as Hofstra swept both end of a double header against Longwood. Cornell dominated the first game, a 4-1 game. Peslak got her first start of the season in the second game, and HU ended up winning 9-7.

What just happened in Orlando? Mercer???
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Nice day in Farmville as Hofstra swept both end of a double header against Longwood. Cornell dominated the first game, a 4-1 game. Peslak got her first start of the season in the second game, and HU ended up winning 9-7. What just happened in Orlando? Mercer???


See the discussion above. Sometimes the offense doesn't show up.  Only one run today.
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JMU left a fair number of runners on base yesterday and is doing it a bit again against Kansas today. Haven't been able to come up with that big knock with runners on. It happens, especially when the team starts to notice it and everyone ends up pressing. Bad loss for JMU, but the best thing about softball is you get to have a short memory. They just need to finish off Kansas today, hopefully play well on Wednesday against UCF and then they get to play at home next weekend. I'm sure they are looking forward to a weekend in Harrisonburg.
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Weekend Observations:

Megan Good:  Three shutouts including a no-hitter and one hitter. With her in the circle JMU is head and shoulders above anyone else in the league. If she's not there I suspect the Dukes are still the best team in the league.

Hofstra: Cornell appears to be ready to be a #1.

UNCW: May make the tournament for the first time in decade.

Everyone else: No real signs of any top-100 team.
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See the discussion above. Sometimes the offense doesn't show up.  Only one run today.


Their offense doesn't show up at times b/c their first hitter has an OPS of .594 and stays hitting first.  The girls he chose to drop to 8th and 9th have an OPS of 1.008 and .981 respectively along with a combined 36 runs, and 26 RBI's.  Pretty good idea to drop them to 8 and 9.  Wouldn't every team in the country's offense struggle when the clear 2 best hitters on the team bat 8-9 or even 6-7?  
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Coach knows what he is doing. This silly season is for a coach to figure roles for when conference games come along
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Coach knows what he is doing. This silly season is for a coach to figure roles for when conference games come along



He dropped his leaders in Hits, HR's, Doubles, Runs scored, RBI's and Slugging % from 6-7 to 8-9.  I'm not sure he knows what he is doing.  
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Can be a number of reasons... could be the 8-9 kids are comfortable there... it could be that he wants the leadoff to get on track and figures that with his 2-3-4 hitters, she will get pitches to hit.

One thing I know... he KNOWS what he is doing.

Now... if leadoff kid's parents gave a library or a locker room to the school.... LOL

Otherwise, the tone here has the aura of an aggrieved family member/friend

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He dropped his leaders in Hits, HR's, Doubles, Runs scored, RBI's and Slugging % from 6-7 to 8-9.  I'm not sure he knows what he is doing.  


It's almost as if 19 games is a small sample size and Morgan Tolle has a two-year track record of much better numbers that she's put up so far. But, no, I'm sure you are right and the answer is that a guy who has helped build this program to the point that it was one game away from the College World Series doesn't know what he's doing. That's the much more logical answer. 

Come on, Tolle's first two seasons her slash line was .381/.442/.547 and .337/.349/.497. I'm sure she'll get rolling soon. A reminder that 58 at-bats even in college softball is a very small sample to pick from. Also, the team is 16-3 despite Tolle not rolling yet.
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It's almost as if 19 games is a small sample size and Morgan Tolle has a two-year track record of much better numbers that she's put up so far. But, no, I'm sure you are right and the answer is that a guy who has helped build this program to the point that it was one game away from the College World Series doesn't know what he's doing. That's the much more logical answer. 

Come on, Tolle's first two seasons her slash line was .381/.442/.547 and .337/.349/.497. I'm sure she'll get rolling soon. A reminder that 58 at-bats even in college softball is a very small sample to pick from. Also, the team is 16-3 despite Tolle not rolling yet.


Agreed. This is nothing worth freaking out about. JMU is still the best team in the conference and will be fighting again for a spot hosting super regionals.

If there was anything worth concerning themselves over is what they are going to get out of their No. 2 pitcher. It appears that they are going to be vulnerable to unexpected losses throughout the season when Good isn't on the mound. If they lose too many then they might even have to travel for regionals. With all that said I don't think they're going to lose more than 10 games during the regular season.
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It's almost as if 19 games is a small sample size and Morgan Tolle has a two-year track record of much better numbers that she's put up so far. But, no, I'm sure you are right and the answer is that a guy who has helped build this program to the point that it was one game away from the College World Series doesn't know what he's doing. That's the much more logical answer. 

Come on, Tolle's first two seasons her slash line was .381/.442/.547 and .337/.349/.497. I'm sure she'll get rolling soon. A reminder that 58 at-bats even in college softball is a very small sample to pick from. Also, the team is 16-3 despite Tolle not rolling yet.


So she's continuing to decline from her Freshman numbers yet hitting 1st?  Would all players be given the same leeway?  What is her average leading off the game compared to all other situations?  I'm not saying the coach isn't very good.  I'm saying 19 games into a season (small sample size, may be true but are they playing more than 57 games b/c that's 1/3 of a season) the 2 clear best hitters (this year) were dropped to 8-9.  

Some might even say he has gotten a little lucky building that program.  Did he recruit the 2 best players that graduated last year?  Did he maybe get lucky that his All American player this year that may be the best pitcher in the country grew up 10 miles from campus and didn't play travel ball?  While he has done and is doing incredible things there that doesn't mean he can't make a mistake or 2 along the way.  
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Agreed. This is nothing worth freaking out about. JMU is still the best team in the conference and will be fighting again for a spot hosting super regionals.

If there was anything worth concerning themselves over is what they are going to get out of their No. 2 pitcher. It appears that they are going to be vulnerable to unexpected losses throughout the season when Good isn't on the mound. If they lose too many then they might even have to travel for regionals. With all that said I don't think they're going to lose more than 10 games during the regular season.


Nobody is freaking out.  Just pointing out how their offense may improve. Displaying IMG_0821.jpg Here is a quick glance at their offensive stats through 19 games.  I agree with previous poster that it could be a small sample size.  I would think they agree that it is also at least 1/3 of the season.  You can get a pretty good look at who the best few hitters are this year with these numbers.

I also agree with your point about the pitching.  I would have liked to have seen the best pitcher face the 2 SEC teams 3 or even 4 times rather than 2.  Those 4 games were what will drive JMU's RPI and they lost the 2 that the All American didn't pitch.  All 4 games were different days too so just a little bit of looking ahead could have given her 3 or 4 starts.  Hosting the region and super region would have been easier if they were 3-1 or 4-0 those 4 games.  

The number 2 pitcher being a concern is also where looking for ways to improve the offensive output could help.  They proved in the Auburn win that just getting 1 run with the AA on the mound might be enough.  


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Take out the Florida's and Oklahoma type teams out of the discussion for a minute and here is my take. You take JMU's pitcher and put her on Hofstra, Towson and some others and you'd have the same results as JMU. She makes such a big difference it makes them competitive with the big teams. Reminds me of when Tincher was with Va. Tech. Their record would be no different than Towson's. As far as Towson is concerned, I looked at some stats. Last year in 54 total games their top 5 hitters hit 54 home runs. In 18 games so far, the top 5 has hit 9. To be on the same pace they would need 18. Those 9 missing home runs and the ERA a run higher per game, makes them a nice mid major team that could show up at any time and give someone a good game. Other than that take them, Hofstra, Elon et. al. and throw them in a bag and pick one out.
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So she's continuing to decline from her Freshman numbers yet hitting 1st?  Would all players be given the same leeway?  What is her average leading off the game compared to all other situations?  I'm not saying the coach isn't very good.  I'm saying 19 games into a season (small sample size, may be true but are they playing more than 57 games b/c that's 1/3 of a season) the 2 clear best hitters (this year) were dropped to 8-9.  

Some might even say he has gotten a little lucky building that program.  Did he recruit the 2 best players that graduated last year?  Did he maybe get lucky that his All American player this year that may be the best pitcher in the country grew up 10 miles from campus and didn't play travel ball?  While he has done and is doing incredible things there that doesn't mean he can't make a mistake or 2 along the way.  


I get what you're saying but with Coach Dean it's not as much luck as you might think. He pulled Radford out of dumpster fire when he went there. Just look at the records of his pitchers while there & look at those same pitchers records after he left. Dean and Riley/Longwood have been grabbing some of the best players you've never heard of, especially out of Va. Good did play travel, for the Beverly Bandits...1 year I believe. She was probably a better volleyball player than softball and made a full time transition when she went to JMU. He will take ANY player, especially out of Virginia. Look at his typicall Fall Roster vs Spring Roster. He creates a very competitive environment and not all the kids can do it. They all believe in him. Too many kids, IMO, go there without doing their homework on him and the program. Takes a special girl to play for him. Be scary to think what he would do at a Power 5 school.


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Take out the Florida's and Oklahoma type teams out of the discussion for a minute and here is my take. You take JMU's pitcher and put her on Hofstra, Towson and some others and you'd have the same results as JMU. She makes such a big difference it makes them competitive with the big teams. Reminds me of when Tincher was with Va. Tech. Their record would be no different than Towson's. As far as Towson is concerned, I looked at some stats. Last year in 54 total games their top 5 hitters hit 54 home runs. In 18 games so far, the top 5 has hit 9. To be on the same pace they would need 18. Those 9 missing home runs and the ERA a run higher per game, makes them a nice mid major team that could show up at any time and give someone a good game. Other than that take them, Hofstra, Elon et. al. and throw them in a bag and pick one out.



I agree with what you are saying in lots of respects, but isn't that what makes the difference is recruiting and getting that difference maker to commit to your program?


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I get what you're saying but with Coach Dean it's not as much luck as you might think. He pulled Radford out of dumpster fire when he went there. Just look at the records of his pitchers while there & look at those same pitchers records after he left. Dean and Riley/Longwood have been grabbing some of the best players you've never heard of, especially out of Va. Good did play travel, for the Beverly Bandits...1 year I believe. She was probably a better volleyball player than softball and made a full time transition when she went to JMU. He will take ANY player, especially out of Virginia. Look at his typicall Fall Roster vs Spring Roster. He creates a very competitive environment and not all the kids can do it. They all believe in him. Too many kids, IMO, go there without doing their homework on him and the program. Takes a special girl to play for him. Be scary to think what he would do at a Power 5 school.



I think Good probably didn't play for the Bandits until after she was committed to JMU. Coach Dean and the Bandits have a good relationship.

Anyone doubting his credentials as a coach are fooling themselves. Will there be a program that can convince him to leave his hometown at any point?
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Coach Dean has certainly 'referred' a few of his recruits to the Bandits along with recruiting kids who were already with the team.  His 'larger roster' strategy adds to the workload of his staff.  It's very smart though as it recognizes the fact that recruiting is an imprecise science at best.  Much better to select your players 'in vivo', as a result of large roster, competitive practices.

Obviously if you put Good on almost any average D1 team that team would likely beat most  less-than-elite D1 teams . . . . and be competitive against the elite teams.  That's a no-brainer.

That said, I'll stand be my assertion that without Good (with Alexander and McCabe pitching) JMU would still be the best team in the league, albeit marginally so.  
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I get what you're saying but with Coach Dean it's not as much luck as you might think. He pulled Radford out of dumpster fire when he went there. Just look at the records of his pitchers while there & look at those same pitchers records after he left. Dean and Riley/Longwood have been grabbing some of the best players you've never heard of, especially out of Va. Good did play travel, for the Beverly Bandits...1 year I believe. She was probably a better volleyball player than softball and made a full time transition when she went to JMU. He will take ANY player, especially out of Virginia. Look at his typicall Fall Roster vs Spring Roster. He creates a very competitive environment and not all the kids can do it. They all believe in him. Too many kids, IMO, go there without doing their homework on him and the program. Takes a special girl to play for him. Be scary to think what he would do at a Power 5 school.




I agree with all that you are saying.  I think he does a great job with pitchers.  Someone posted that their offense struggles at times.  I agree with that as well.  My point was by far his 2 best hitters this season were dropped last game to 8th and 9th.  Sometimes you just might miss what your players are doing.  I wonder if he even knows his 8-9 hitters lead the team in OPS, RBI, and Runs.  They also have a history of hitting well.  I didn't mean to single out the lead off hitter when I did b/c it wasn't about anyone else on the team, but her career stats were posted by someone else.  She had an OPS of .896 last year.  The 8 hitter's last year was .860 and the 9 hitter's was .920. This year it is 1.008, .981 and .594.  I'm not talking about flash in the pan Freshman.  4 year starters that have combined for 2 errors this season playing tough positions while posting the best offensive stats by far on the team.  
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