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keepinitreal

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So true, they sure aren't governing and the lies and scandals are growing. Our government at it's all time's worst. The Washington way perfected
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Originally Posted by JoiseyGuy
Real - It's all sickening, and yes, it's "The Washington Way", pretending to govern while fighting political wars.  Truly disgusts me.  Both Parties play loose with the truth and pretend to be sanctimonious when in reality they are looking to maintain a power seat in the next election.  Too much BS all around for me.  It's the corrupted system !!


JG -

I tend to agree with you.

In this case, though, it would have been easy just to come out right away and say "terrorists attacked us, we'll get them".  In fact, Americans would probably have rallied around the POTUS in that case.

Instead, these people are more worried with the narrative that "Obama has saved us from ourselves in the world.  Everyone loves us now" than they are with defending the lives of our fellow Americans who were under attack.

Then, as is always the case, the cover up makes it worse.  Multiple administration officials perjuring themselves under oath, obstruction of justice by withholding information and documents, and multiple violations of the law.

Then, they perpetrate a lie to the whole world, lie to the faces of the families of those killed, and no one is held accountable, or even steps forward and says "I'm Sorry".

This particular case is about more than the Washington Way.  It is about an administration that feels that it is above the law.

When the POTUS believes he and his crew are above the law, our Constitution, and our very way of life an self government, are flushed.

This is not a partisan issue to those of us who believe in the Constitution.  The only reason it could be partisan at all is because maybe one side seems to have such utter disregard for the Constitution because their boy is in office.
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Mike, very astute post.

I would add that the left's reliance on blaming the "Washington Way" is really just another way to deflect criticism of Obama. It's a lame euphemism for "Blame Bush." But they can't continue to blame Bush, so now they blame Washington.

Obama's failings aren't the result of "That's how Washington works." They are the result of inept leadership and bad policy decisions by Obama and others in his administration. In short, the "Obama Way."

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"This particular case is about more than the Washington Way.  It is about an administration that feels that it is above the law."

I hope you guys know without the [wink], that my constant reference to jg's 'washington way' is a poke and not an agreement.  It fits jg's theory and I get him to admit that this administration is no better [actually worst ever] in the history of this nation..  "In short, the "Obama Way." " So true

Those that scoff at the notion that Benghazi is bigger than watergate [many more secrets, players and LIES] are in extreme denial.  The benghazi coverup grows every time that Jay carney opens his mouth.  They need to get Panetta on the stand.  Please choose Trey Gowdy to run the show

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Rhodes himself makes clear in his email what motive the WH has to alter the Benghai narrative at the time:

"to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy.”

They were seeking cover for "the broader failure of policy."

The fact that they thought they could get away with lying fits in with the Obama Way. Hence "the video, two rogue agents in Cincinatti, you can keep your doctor" etc. etc. Talk about a broader failure of policy. Lol. These guys are buffoons.


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We now know that Ben Rhodes, (at least Ben Rhodes,) pushed the video. Clearly for political purposes, lies to get Obama re-elected.


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Bottom line is that Obama lied and then covered up his lies.  Obama should be impeached.  Both Nixon and Clinton (Bill) were impeached for far less.  In fact, Obama and Clinton (Hillary) should be brought before criminal courts and face possible jail time for their obstruction of justice.
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I don't think there is anything in the Benghazi story that can lead to impeachment.

Someday, however, Ms. Lerner is going to start getting squeezed, and she will have to determine if a long term in federal prison is worth her loyalty to Obama.  Of course, being POTUS, he'll probably just pardon her, like he plans to do with thousands of other criminals.

All of these officials and appointees who have lied under oath to Congress, including, should be prosecuted.
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Nixon faced impeachment for covering up a break-in.  Clinton was impeached for lying.  I see Obama having committed both of these transgressions.  That's why i think impeachment is appropriate and possible.
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Stand by. Rhodes was concerned about "the broader failure of policy" for good reason. By the time Trey Gowdy gets done with this, covering up "altered talking points" will be the least of Obama's and Clinton's concerns. 
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Obama will never be impeached because he is half minority and half majority. [biggrin]
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Nixon faced impeachment for covering up a break-in.  Clinton was impeached for lying.  I see Obama having committed both of these transgressions.  That's why i think impeachment is appropriate and possible.


Pabar -

I agree that he has committed both of these.  Clinton lied under oath - Obama has not done that, yet.  I think Obama has been smart enough to have arm's lengths transactions on these scandals, so it might not be possible to get to him.

I agree he is a liar and has been fraudulent in many areas.  If he were to impeached, I would think it would have to be for Lerner rolling over on him, or for failure to faithfully execute the laws of the land, since he blows those off regularly.

I suspect some folks in the admin are now going to have to start making personal assessments of taking the rap, or starting to talk.

I suppose we'll see how things play out.
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Seems clear, with new emails continuing to come out, that the WH knew within 24 hours that it was a terror attack (actually within the first few hours).  At the same time, the emails show that the White House dreamed up the internet video story, and ran with it, knowing that it was false.

In the meantime, they are using words like "witch hunt".  That is demeaning and shameful.
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hell watergate, the blue stained dress and iran-contra were witch hunts
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Trey Gowdy is the last person in Congress the Dems want running an investigation. Faced with Federal penitentiary time for obstruction, and or outright lying to Congressional Commitees, and facing Congressional Contempt charges, someone under investigation will take a pass, and turn on the Obama administration. A cover up was done, administration officials openly lied to the American Public, and Congressional investigators, and knowingly withheld information, and email correspondence requested by Congressional Committees. This is not going to go away, and cannot be blamed on a partisan witch hunt. Administration officials openly lied to Congressional Committees, and they will now be held accountable for their actions. Who will be first to fall on the sword for President Obama, and the anointed Hillary?
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Gowdy said today that they would be calling Clinton and Rice to testify. No word yet on Obama or others in the White House.

Tick tock. Tick tock.

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Already a vicious liberal media offensive about the Benghazi and IRS developments. It's as if their pathetic failure to objectively report the news will be exposed as facts come to light. Which it will.
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This cracked me up!  [rofl][biggrin][crazy][rofl]

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/ywt77c/tip-wag---herald-embroidery--bug-scientists---dana-perino

Start at 4:30 in the video


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The last two links from the liberals on this forum have been from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.  Pretty much says it all when it comes to the depth of their analysis.

The facts on Benghazi are very simple.  It was a terrorist attack and was known to be while it was occurring.  The administration advanced a theory that it was a demonstration gone bad inspired by a video.  This story was advanced for a week after the attack.  The administration is now found to have provided the specific talking points to be advanced in support of the video theory.  We still don't know where Obama was during the attack.

The strategy from the left now is to marginalize the story and those seeking the truth.  In other words, obfuscate and obstruct.  After all, what difference does it make at this point that four people died?
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I wonder if he's ever caught the idiots at MSNBC in a mistake, and put it on his show?

What about the Harris-Perry lady who mocked Romney's adopted child?  Did he call her out?  What about Michelle herself, who was FINALLY proud of her country, for the first time in her adult life, after the nation elected a black man (who happened to be her husband)?  How about Harry Reid when he said Obama was a nice little Negro boy?

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I read a very interesting opinion today from Judge Napolitano.  He says that the Obama WH, and other agency staff, became involved in the campaign when they concocted the talking points video story, and then propogated it.

If true, federal staff time, and federal dollars were spent on the reelection campaign.  This is against federal law.

In Napolitano's opinion, this use of government resources in an election campaign is more egregious than Nixon's.  These law violations, in his opinion, could be grounds for impeachment.  At a minimum, many of these people could be prosecuted.

Interesting ideas, that I had not though of previously.
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Good point.  And it should be pointed out that Napolitano is not a right winger by any stretch of the imagination.
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The last two links from the liberals on this forum have been from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.  Pretty much says it all when it comes to the depth of their analysis.



Well at least they haven't rehashed 'What did Bush do?' to divert attention from this failure.  Oh, wait a minute......

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Good point.  And it should be pointed out that Napolitano is not a right winger by any stretch of the imagination.


Naw, but he'll be vilified on MSNBC, which will then get picked up by other outlets, as a racist, since he has the audacity to question the anointed one.
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The last two links from the liberals on this forum have been from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.  Pretty much says it all when it comes to the depth of their analysis.

The strategy from the left now is to marginalize the story and those seeking the truth.


Geez, you guys have no sense of humor.  My post was in no way a commentary on the Benghazi situation or trying to "marginalize the story".  It was about Fox News.  Plain and simple.  That's what Colbert was poking fun at.  Did you not find that comment ridiculous???  "A great point, if it were true."  C'mon - really??????  [rolleyes]


I doubt we will ever know the full truth about Benghazi.  Why was Stevens there on 9/11 and not at the embassy in Tripoli?  There are probably facts the US doesn't want to be known, for reasons of national security.  And personally, I'm OK with that.  The US has always been involved in clandestine operations against our enemies.  We, as citizens, don't need to know all the details, contrary to what some think.

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That crazy old hag Pelosi is actually out there trying to say family members of the murdered Americans have asked her to not allow the investigations to continue. I call major BS. Of course the media is running with it
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Yep, she said she had heard from 2 of the 4 families and they had requested not to find out the facts of Benghazi. Democrats at their best, obstructionists



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Perhaps the Dems should start looking for someone other than Hillary, or good ole Joe, to be the anointed President. Always have another option, always, always, leave yourself an out.
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The Benghazi Deniers

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/the-benghazi-deniers-106498.html?hp=l1#.U3DYMSm9LCT

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In his April testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, former deputy director of the CIA Michael Morell emphasized, “The critically important point is that the analysts considered this a terrorist attack from the very beginning. They were not slow coming to this judgment.”
But Rice took her cue from Rhodes, who didn’t mention terrorism in his general discussion of the situation in the Middle East, or in his specific suggested answer to a hypothetical question about Benghazi. It was all about the video, and “people who harm Americans” and “challenges,” including “difficult challenges.”
Morell told the House Intelligence Committee that in the agency’s analysis, “There was no mention of the video defaming the Prophet Muhammad as a motivation for the attacks in Benghazi. In fact, there was no mention of the video at all.” Rice’s viewers nonetheless heard of little else.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/the-benghazi-deniers-106498.html#ixzz31Vl2FiRB

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Here are a few of the things Trey Gowdy will get answers to. Even if the media continues to run an obstructionist campaign for Obama.




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